eod EQ + ed ALA for LBM gains?

[DepressiveJuice]

just looking for opinions on this. would there be any benefit in using 100mg of EQ eod with 2g ALA ed? im guessing the LBM gains should be good in a cycle like this- im not looking to be huge just around 210lbs @ 8-9% bf. im assuming that using EQ at that low of a dose wont shut you down hard if you use it for 14 weeks. thats 400mg week one, 300mg week two, etc. possibly some ECA and NYC thrown in there at the end when the fat loss comes to a halt. opinions?

 

[ripper2]

350mg/wk of EQ isn't all that much. if your dieting, then that might not be enough to prevent catabolism. (maybe it is)
as for LBM gains/fat loss, the ALA will help...

if it were me i'd add 100mg prop/EOD wiht that EQ.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Why would you want to do EQ EOD when you could simply boot 3cc's in one shot once a week? Do you like sticking yourself with a needle?

 

[jc21]

i agree 350mg is on the low side of dosages for eq. and when using eq there is no need to inject it eod, once a week should be suffcient since it is so long acting. but i bet you would make good gains off around 400mg/wk. Eq can shut you down so you will need clomid when you come off, but it wont shut you down so bad that you will need test during the cycle.

 

[DepressiveJuice]

Why would you want to do EQ EOD when you could simply boot 3cc's in one shot once a week? Do you like sticking yourself with a needle?

hearsay i guess? dave palumbo recommends taking eod shots to keep blood level. i've read some of your posts about EQ and you think that its a good AS. do you agree that 350mgs is too low? im looking for that "model" look

 

[thx9000]

350mg is low for EQ.

Frequent injections are needed for the shorter esters (acetate, prop, etc) to maintain even levels, but for something like EQ (or cyp, enan or esp deca) much less frequent injections will still easily maintain a fairly consistent level as the ester has such a long halflife.

 

[Triple J]

The more frequent you inject, the more even your blood levels will be, but at some point it is obviously overkill. Twice a week should be sufficient for EQ

 

[DeepZenPill]

I've been using 500mg/week EQ with twice a week injections and that's about as often as you need to shoot. EOD is overkill for a long ester. Search around for the roid calculator which shows the blood levels for each day through your cycle. It fluctuates a bit, but there aren't really any huge peaks or dips.

I would suggest running at least 400mg a week. I was running that dosage and the fat was melting off me along with only 600mg of r-ala a day. The fat loss oddly stopped when I added in Anavar (go figure), but EQ alone should be fine. You will definitely see results if you're using 2g ALA with the EQ. You still need to diet though, the drugs won't do all the work.

Also, you won't be shut down as hard you would be with say fina or deca, but you will be shut down after 14 weeks.

Cutting with EQ is a real test of your willpower since EQ hunger pangs will drive you nuts when you're in a calorie deficit. I would suggest running ECA/NYC along with it, it helps TREMENDOUSLY with suppressing the hunger. The only problem I had then was when the NYC wore off at night and I got late night hunger like no other.

 

[DepressiveJuice]

right i knew that you can keep steady blood levels with twice a wee shots. i believe that palumbo said that keeping steady blood levels with eod shots would minimize sides like acne and bloating.

how does 400mg EQ/wk for 12 weeks and 400mg enanthate/wk for 8 weeks sound?

 

[thx9000]

i believe that palumbo said that keeping steady blood levels with eod shots would minimize sides like acne and bloating.

I don't think that this is the case. Sides should be proprotional to the total product used per week and total time on.

how does 400mg EQ/wk for 12 weeks and 400mg enanthate/wk for 8 weeks sound? [/B]

The inclusion of enanthate is probably a good idea. Not sure I would end them seperately, though.

 

[DeepZenPill]

how does 400mg EQ/wk for 12 weeks and 400mg enanthate/wk for 8 weeks sound?

That would definitely help in your quest for LBM. If bloat easily you might want to add in some liquidex with it to minimize estrogenic fat gain. It would definitely help you keep your gains lean.

I don't think that this is the case. Sides should be proprotional to the total product used per week and total time on.

While that is true, sides are largely attributed to the fluctuations in hormone levels. The more steady the levels, the less you're sides will be (to an extent)