enthanate

[Bruce]

enthanate eq cycle

doing a 14 week eq cycle 600 ew and winny weeks 9-14 50ed, think i may add enthanate, what is the lowest dose i can run and still get effect, never done test really, done two cycles of deca winny, 12 weeks each. 24 years old 6 1 160.
also how much do you keep from the enthanate.

 

[fergie]

500mg

 

[LVTitan]

yeah if you've got a few cycles under your belt i would agree. 500mg (usually 2cc's) a week, i usually do 1cc 2x week.

 

[Bruce]

500mg

fergie what you weighin in at, damn

 

[babbabuee]

6'1" 160lbs and you've already done 2 cycles? Something's not right there bro. Would you mind explaining how you are so thin after two cycles?

 

[Bruce]

6'1" 160lbs and you've already done 2 cycles? Something's not right there bro. Would you mind explaining how you are so thin after two cycles?[/QUOTE
i want advice on the cycle not questions about my build, i have a 28 inch waist with 4%bf, and thin legs, i weighed 140 at 23 after working out for 3 years, i started at 130 and was about 5 11, small frame i don't know, if you have input thanks otherwise don't worry about it

 

[babbabuee]

ok, in that case, if you want my input, I say stay off the juice and work on your dieting/training. now don't give me shit for giving you my opinion, you asked. you gained 10lbs and 2" in 3 years and ONLY 10 pounds? Bro, bruce, I'm sorry I really am not trying to flame you, but it appears that even with juice (2 cycles worth) you aren't gaining enough in my opinion, so why juice then? But if you must, stay at 500mg for 8-10 weeks and do standard pct and eat some food for gods sake. 4% BF, that's freakin ridiculous if you aren't on stage at contest time. $20 says I'm not the only one that thinks something's not right.

 

[Neo22]

Yea bro you really need to start packing on the food. WHo tested you for 4%?

 

[Bruce]

i have had this argument so many times, on a calliper i am 3% which is impossible, so i estimate 4 or 5, i don't really care, 20 lbs of muscle off two small cycles without test is pretty good, i don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Bruce]

ok, in that case, if you want my input, I say stay off the juice and work on your dieting/training. now don't give me shit for giving you my opinion, you asked. you gained 10lbs and 2" in 3 years and ONLY 10 pounds? Bro, bruce, I'm sorry I really am not trying to flame you, but it appears that even with juice (2 cycles worth) you aren't gaining enough in my opinion, so why juice then? But if you must, stay at 500mg for 8-10 weeks and do standard pct and eat some food for gods sake. 4% BF, that's freakin ridiculous if you aren't on stage at contest time. $20 says I'm not the only one that thinks something's not right.

i don't think you read this clearly gained 20 pounds off two light cycles, what are you talking about, ive gone from 130 to 160, and not an ounce of fat.

 

[babbabuee]

not sure about the timeline, i thought you went from 130-140 in three years and then 140-160 on two cycles? Whatever the case, you are obviously making lean gains, and I can respect that. You just seem so light at 160lbs for 6'1". how old are you now? do you feel that you cannot make any more gains without juice? What kind of diet/training do you follow?

 

[Bruce]

not sure about the timeline, i thought you went from 130-140 in three years and then 140-160 on two cycles? Whatever the case, you are obviously making lean gains, and I can respect that. You just seem so light at 160lbs for 6'1". how old are you now? do you feel that you cannot make any more gains without juice? What kind of diet/training do you follow?

yeah bro, i am just an ectomorph, you don't know what i went through to pack on those pounds natrually, my arm span is 6 5, my arms loook good, but it is hell for pressing, and my torso is just really narrow, i'm also in the middle of my second cycle i should be about 165 at the end, and really my goal is about 180 maybe 190 tops, like Roy Jones, if you saw my frame you understand, my bone structure is just very narrow, and my body reacted unreal to a light dose of winny deca last summer and i put on 10 pounds, had surgery on my gall bladder, and went back down to about 145, and now have 4 weeks left on my second and i am back to 160 so i think i just need juice to make it over the hump. i don't know, trust me if it could be done naturally i would save the money. by the way on the karma i gave you it wrote the same thing to a guy i was disapproving for some reason

 

[babbabuee]

thanks for the karma. I knew there had to be some more to your story/reason for being so light. It still sounds like it woulnd't hurt you too much to maybe put on a bit more fat, you know just bulk a bit more, might fill you out a bit. In any case, I think adding test to that eq would be nice. I've ran that cycle before Test E and EQ and loved it. good luck bro, keep eating and training and hope you hit that 180 sooner rather than later.

 

[martin uk]

Sorry im with everyone else on this one .
3 years training and 2 cycles I would say you are at least 50-60lb underweight based on your height .
Even without gear and an excellent training regime and lots of eating you should be putting 15-25lbs per year on and use the gear as the icing on the cake.

I am only 5ft 8lb and 101kgs I only do 2-3 cycles a year and sensible ones. Most of my weight is just eating lots and big exercises.

 

[silverbackn]

Here's my advice! Hit the test hard and eat like a motherfucker, eat garbage too, it doesn't matter with your metabolism and build. Try to put on a lot of mass. The design of your previous cycles are almost as if you are dieting or trying to stay lean. Hit the test and put some serious weight on and stop staying in the middle of the road. Put on some bodyfat and gain some size. Not a flame, just my honest advice. I am a competitive bodybuilder, I have a degree, and I'm a CSCS. This is my professional advice. Good luck in whatever you decide!

 

[hugeman1]

test en/var/eq/winny...have nolva on hand.

 

[LVTitan]

i have had this argument so many times, on a calliper i am 3% which is impossible, so i estimate 4 or 5, i don't really care, 20 lbs of muscle off two small cycles without test is pretty good, i don't know what you are talking about.

just be careful around here bruce, as a fellow ectomorph with a ridiculously low body fat % i can tell you that you will get a lot of haters and a lot of bullshit calling whenever you post stats for being a little guy.
i have gone thru this with these guys numerous times. my natty peak after years of eating like a mofo and working out was under 120lbs, i'm 5 7" a few test cylces had me to 150 and i just lost a lot of that due to unforseen circumstances. my body fat has never been over around 4% but all these bros here do is call bullshit.. thats like me giving people a hard time for being fat asses, we're all here to get our bodies where we want them.
if you wanna gain serious size my bro, use the test like silver back said, for me however , test is no longer an option, too much acne when i use test, and i dont like the hair growth, so i will take the ssslllloooowww and steady routine back to my goal of 160lbs... primo right now (125mg/week test maintenance) maybe next time some eq.. but no heavy test cycles for me anymore, even if it takes me all year to get there...
good luck homie.

 

[Bruce]

just be careful around here bruce, as a fellow ectomorph with a ridiculously low body fat % i can tell you that you will get a lot of haters and a lot of bullshit calling whenever you post stats for being a little guy.
i have gone thru this with these guys numerous times. my natty peak after years of eating like a mofo and working out was under 120lbs, i'm 5 7" a few test cylces had me to 150 and i just lost a lot of that due to unforseen circumstances. my body fat has never been over around 4% but all these bros here do is call bullshit.. thats like me giving people a hard time for being fat asses, we're all here to get our bodies where we want them.
if you wanna gain serious size my bro, use the test like silver back said, for me however , test is no longer an option, too much acne when i use test, and i dont like the hair growth, so i will take the ssslllloooowww and steady routine back to my goal of 160lbs... primo right now (125mg/week test maintenance) maybe next time some eq.. but no heavy test cycles for me anymore, even if it takes me all year to get there...
good luck homie.

thank you, its crazy not everyone wants to be a bodybuilder, i just wanna be up near 180. i hooked you with karma

 

[LVTitan]

thank you, its crazy not everyone wants to be a bodybuilder, i just wanna be up near 180. i hooked you with karma

i'd be happy with 160

 

[SwolK]

come on Bruce. we talked about this for a week. 500mg of test for 10-12 weeks. it is a great light to moderate cycle with light sides (hopefully). should put on some quality muscle.
by the way, how is the the abcess, or infection?

 

[DJ_UFO]

Bro you don't need those three compounds. If you already started, ok for the next one. You need to put mass and more mass. I believe you can be a very small frame and very hard gainer. If you've never done test, well you need a cycle of only test, 500mg/week. You can frontload with some 25mg/day of dbol. And stay alert on how your body is responding. If you're already on EQ 600mg and winny, I wouldn't add 500mg test/week.

 

[Bruce]

Bro you don't need those three compounds. If you already started, ok for the next one. You need to put mass and more mass. I believe you can be a very small frame and very hard gainer. If you've never done test, well you need a cycle of only test, 500mg/week. You can frontload with some 25mg/day of dbol. And stay alert on how your body is responding. If you're already on EQ 600mg and winny, I wouldn't add 500mg test/week.

no the cycle isn't starting until april, haven't done a thing yet, test would be done with eq

 

[tommboy]

bruce, do you have a diet plan? What foods do you eat/ how much protein do you consume?

no the cycle isn't starting until april, haven't done a thing yet, test would be done with eq

 

[Bruce]

bruce, do you have a diet plan? What foods do you eat/ how much protein do you consume?

here goes: wake up, yogurt, cream of wheat with milk, and a protein bar on the way to class, protein shake and turkey swiss sandwich next. protein shake after workout. chicken or steak with rice or noodles for dinner. thats when i really start eating. after 9pm i'll eat a small oven pizza, four apple turnovers, macaroni. two shakes, one always before bed. i consume my weight in protein. i just want you to know that i am growing very vell on this cycle, i just wanted opinions on lowest effective dose of enthanate, i am only on light deca winny cycle right now and am putting on pounds. if you want to make a diet for me i would gladly consider it, as well as hook you with karma.