HGH/ IGF-1/insulin all things you can take w/o effecting test. but they have there own sides to worry bout...
i did 600mg tren w/ 600mg deca, my libido went down post cycle for a month but i didnt use HCG, which from now on i DO!!!! like was mentioned earlier hardcore, means hard sides, its a game of risks, everyone has there opinions and there are lots of very knowledgeble and vetran guys here who can help you with a awesome hard core cycle, (not saying im dumb), but if you want options then heres one that i would do..
Dbol week 1-6, 30mg day (dbol doesnt mess with natural test as much as Adrol would)
Test Prop week 1-6, 300mg (100mg m/w/f)(will take place of natural test, but you wont be on it long, u could go up to 450mg week if you wanted)
EQ week 1-14 500mg (very very similar to deca without the deca dick!!)
Tren week 6-12, (75mg m/w/f first week, work your way up to using 150mg m/w/f)
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Insulin week 4-12, m/w/f 10iu's *make sure you look up how to use it
CORRECTLY!*(not a steriod, very dangerious(slin), BUT ALL ANOBOLIC!!!! will work w/no test suppresion, if you can handle it, will be awesome!)
HCG week 7(not a steroid, testbooster, make sure your manhood doesnt atrophy) at least use round 4000IU, *look on how to dose it*
Anavar week 6-14, 50-60mg/day(light test suppresion, help you keep most of your gains last part of cycle, will also lean up slightly all the new muscle you will have obtained)
Primobolon week 6-14, 400mg week(light test supression awesome stuff, costly thought)
PCT week15-19 HCG,NOLVA,CLOMID...and use it this time\
also, i would start using nolva and clomid during your cycle round week 8, right after the HCG, if you really want to keep natural test alive, and for your liver take some liver tabs throughout the cycle cus the dbol/tren might effect you... you could replace these items with other ones depending on your goals, but if you did youd have to re-arange it, this is kinda a lean mass plan... wouldnt expect over 30lbs, most likely 20-25lbs, but they will be solid lbs!
your could also run sustanon in place of EQ, and test enanthate in place of primobolon if you want serious mass!!! i just wasnt sure since you said u didnt want to mess with your mandhood, but when u use stuff not to mess with your manhood its gonna cost you so be prepared, test is the cheapest stuff and your staying away from it, everything else is expensive so if you can offord it you wont be dissapointed just make sure your diet is down!!! RIGHT good luck, definitly take a look at what others suggest, its whats right for you man this might not be, its definitly right for me thought
