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Enlarged heart?

wls8687

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Ive never got a decent answere to this question.. The heart is a muscles, when you'r on steroids and run and so, wont the heart get enlarged? i mean im on cycle right now and i run quite often, but i don't know if i should stop because my heart might get enlarged?
 
I've never heard of gear causing left ventricular hypertrophy (but I don't doubt that it could). But in practice, LVH is more closely associated with tons and tons of highly intense, anaerobic activities. The biggest problem with that condition is that once an athelete stops training, that extra muscle tissue is just baggage and can actually create a drag on the heart.
 
mrplunkey said:
I've never heard of gear causing left ventricular hypertrophy (but I don't doubt that it could). But in practice, LVH is more closely associated with tons and tons of highly intense, anaerobic activities. The biggest problem with that condition is that once an athelete stops training, that extra muscle tissue is just baggage and can actually create a drag on the heart.

This is a subject on which I can speak from experience. I actually was told by my doctor that I have an enlarged left ventricle. It was so pronounced that he actually called a resident into the room to show him how to identify it using a stethescope. He said my competitive career as an athlete was the cause.

So yes, intense, anaerobic activities can cause it. Whether or not to engage in the behaviors associated with causing it is a subject you should research thoroughly in order to make an informed decision. There are indeed health risks associated with an enlarged left ventricle.
 
I remember reading a study a while back done on this. They had powerlifters that used AAS and those that were natural. Both groups had enlarged hearts.
 
wls8687 said:
Ive never got a decent answere to this question.. The heart is a muscles, when you'r on steroids and run and so, wont the heart get enlarged? i mean im on cycle right now and i run quite often, but i don't know if i should stop because my heart might get enlarged?


Heavy anaerobic training like weight lifting is known to cause left ventrcile hypertrophy( thicking of the heart muscle wall), and aerobic training is known to cause enlargement of the left ventricle cavity itself. I belive that the only thing that can be said for certain about the efffects of AS for is that they may cause thickening of the walls if high blood pressure results from their use. No good scientific studies out there on the long term effects of As on humans, im not even sure if there are any on animals.
 
i heard somewhere that aas could thicken the walls of the heart or something like that, i also heard a rumor(never got an explanation) that if you die when on steroids your heart can get bigger when you are dead. These are rumors i have heard but i however don't know if there's any truth associated to it
 
Yeah it can thicken the wall of the heart, but enlarged heart is something totally different. An enlarged heart would cause a lot of problems even in a grown adult. Thicken of the wall is not synonmous with a enlarged heart.
 
Cardiac muscle doesn't respond to steroids like skeletal muscle does. Weight training, with or without gear, will lead to LVH. In 99% of cases, this is harmless. If you happen to be unlucky or have genetic predisposition, the LV can thicken so much that it actually has trouble functioning as well, but again this is not caused by gear. I'd be more worried about lipid levels and high BP damaging my circulatory system than LVH. Enlarged heart, as mentioned above, isn't really related to LVH or gear usage.
 
any other info on this subject???? i too am very interested in the knowlege of our members.....

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Tux said:
Cardiac muscle doesn't respond to steroids like skeletal muscle does. Weight training, with or without gear, will lead to LVH. In 99% of cases, this is harmless. If you happen to be unlucky or have genetic predisposition, the LV can thicken so much that it actually has trouble functioning as well, but again this is not caused by gear. I'd be more worried about lipid levels and high BP damaging my circulatory system than LVH. Enlarged heart, as mentioned above, isn't really related to LVH or gear usage.

I agree about the emphasis being on high cholestrol levels and BP.......those are the priorities you should be looking at when looking at the risks.

LVH seems like a distant second in the risk factors.......




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bigmusclehead said:
its like this u only live once.if u worry about such things while using gear than don't use it.its not for everyone.

I would worry about cholesterol and BP regardless of AAS use or not.

Those are serious risk factors w/ longterm consequences if untreated.




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DIVISION said:
I would worry about cholesterol and BP regardless of AAS use or not.

Those are serious risk factors w/ longterm consequences if untreated.




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well that i agree on cholesterol should be controlled if u have other risk factors involved diabetes,obesity,smoker,family heart problems and yes hypertension.if u have natural elevated cholesterol with no other risk factors the chance of having a heart attack is 1%.and yes high blood pressure is the silent killer.
 
AS can enlarge (thicken) the LV in your heart. It takes many years and as was posted it's more likely due to the weight lifting than the AS. But you lift more weight with AS so there you go.
The good news is that looks like you can cure it by taking Cialis, Viagra, etc. The lab animals they used it on had their enlarged heart reduce completely back to normal in two weeks. They are getting approval for humans now.
 
Ulter said:
AS can enlarge (thicken) the LV in your heart. It takes many years and as was posted it's more likely due to the weight lifting than the AS. But you lift more weight with AS so there you go.
The good news is that looks like you can cure it by taking Cialis, Viagra, etc. The lab animals they used it on had their enlarged heart reduce completely back to normal in two weeks. They are getting approval for humans now.

Do you have to be clean of AAS for Cialis/viagra to have this effect?

Also, do you have a more in depth explanation/study of this?

right now I am very happy to be taking cialis twice per week. ;)
 
view said:
Do you have to be clean of AAS for Cialis/viagra to have this effect?

Also, do you have a more in depth explanation/study of this?

right now I am very happy to be taking cialis twice per week. ;)
yes, i would think this will be very very important for lifters and AAS users. very interesting indeed.
 
i was diagnosed with an enlarged heart after having a cat scan but they said as my bp is good and cholesterol that it is an athletes heart
 
Ulter said:
AS can enlarge (thicken) the LV in your heart. It takes many years and as was posted it's more likely due to the weight lifting than the AS. But you lift more weight with AS so there you go.
The good news is that looks like you can cure it by taking Cialis, Viagra, etc. The lab animals they used it on had their enlarged heart reduce completely back to normal in two weeks. They are getting approval for humans now.
That is very interesting information! Keep us posted on that. I know those drugs can reduce blood pressure by dilating the blood vessels but how can they cause LV atrophy?
 
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