Enanthate to cut

[Nighthawkk]

What would be a good dose of enanth to use in a simple cutting cycle? I just finished a Sust/Dbol bulker and will be going straight into it. Was planning something like this:

Week 1-10 Testoviron 250mg E5D
Week 4-12 Tren 75mg EOD
Week 1-12 Clen/T-rex in 2 week rotations
0.5mg A-dex EOD (if needed)
PCT- HCG, Clomid, Nolv

Looking to drop about 4-5% bodyfat, and retain and/or add lbm. Is this enough Test? I know you're all going to say use prop because of the water retention issue, but I really hate jabbing every other day, it becomes VERY tedious and painful. I'd rather deal with a little water...I don't have to be bone dry because I'm not planning to look shredded until the end. Any good advice/experiences?

 

[azul]

What would be a good dose of enanth to use in a simple cutting cycle? I just finished a Sust/Dbol bulker and will be going straight into it. Was planning something like this:

Week 1-10 Testoviron 250mg E5D
Week 4-12 Tren 75mg EOD
Week 1-12 Clen/T-rex in 2 week rotations
0.5mg A-dex EOD (if needed)
PCT- HCG, Clomid, Nolv

Looking to drop about 4-5% bodyfat, and retain and/or add lbm. Is this enough Test? I know you're all going to say use prop because of the water retention issue, but I really hate jabbing every other day, it becomes VERY tedious and painful. I'd rather deal with a little water...I don't have to be bone dry because I'm not planning to look shredded until the end. Any good advice/experiences?

500mg is nice. Nicer than 250mg for sure.

 

[Nighthawkk]

500mg is nice. Nicer than 250mg for sure.

True that. Is it necessary though? Just looking to stay in an anti-catabolic state while dropping the cals enough to lose fat. I usually do the 500-750mg for bulking.

 

[azul]

True that. Is it necessary though? Just looking to stay in an anti-catabolic state while dropping the cals enough to lose fat. I usually do the 500-750mg for bulking.

More is always better I'd say that with 500mg you could achieve more than with 250mg.

 

[needsize]

depending on how much bf you want to lose, I usually use close to the same dose I used to bulk

 

[sparetire]

you would think running at 250 would be optimal since you won't gain as much water as you would if you were running it at 500+.

 

[nydj66]

I don't know about you but if I add a-dex to a test cycle I don't get any water retention at all.

 

[Nighthawkk]

I don't know about you but if I add a-dex to a test cycle I don't get any water retention at all.

Yea I was running 0.5mg EOD of arimidex through my last Enanth/Deca cycle and was fairly dry and gyno-free through it, it's good stuff.

So does anyone else have Enanth cutting cycle experience?

 

[Tux]

I'd use 500/week, especially if you're only running tren at 75/eod. I might drop the test to 250 E5D if the tren was up to 75/ed, but at 75/eod I'd like the test higher... more androgens= less muscle loss when dieting. Then again, I have a very hard time gaining muscle, and I lose it very easily when dieting without alot of strong androgens. If I want to get really lean and still keep most of my muscle, I have to run tren at around 100mg/day minimum, and winny at 30-50mg/day, along with some test. Stupid crappy genetics

 

[Nighthawkk]

I'd use 500/week, especially if you're only running tren at 75/eod. I might drop the test to 250 E5D if the tren was up to 75/ed, but at 75/eod I'd like the test higher... more androgens= less muscle loss when dieting. Then again, I have a very hard time gaining muscle, and I lose it very easily when dieting without alot of strong androgens. If I want to get really lean and still keep most of my muscle, I have to run tren at around 100mg/day minimum, and winny at 30-50mg/day, along with some test. Stupid crappy genetics

I feel ya bro, I have trouble packing on the mass as an ecto, and then I lose a lot of muscle also when I am dieting without the gear. Though for some reason my body does well maintaining itself on low doses of test. Most of you guys are recommending the 500mg of Enanth, so I suppose that is what I will do unless I kick up the tren dose like you mentioned. I would absolutely love Winny or Var here, but I think it's pointless until I hit a lower BF %. Very eager to see what all the fuss is with Clen, as I haven't used it yet.

 

[organon250]

250mg's a week is a wast of syringes and your time and money. 500mg's is perfect for cutting you gotta keep it higher since usually when cutting your significantly reducing calories and upping cardio to cut up this puts your in greater catabolic risk than when bulking so a good dose of AAS is necessary to fight this onset.

 

[RvN]

250mg's a week is a wast of syringes and your time and money. 500mg's is perfect for cutting you gotta keep it higher since usually when cutting your significantly reducing calories and upping cardio to cut up this puts your in greater catabolic risk than when bulking so a good dose of AAS is necessary to fight this onset.

Hmm, im soon going to be doing 250MG Enanthate every week with Eq @400mg and Winny to finish, i figured 250mg would be enough Test?

 

[organon250]

If your running eq at 400mg's on top of the 250mg's of enanthate you probably will be fine but I gave my opinion based upon using enanthate alone I would still run500mg's over 250 but thats my opinion and you would know from past experience how low you can go with dosage without losing LBM better than I would as everyone is at different stages of development and the larger you are the more it takes to maintain that level while cutting. Eq can be used very well for cutting and maintenance alone but most I know run it 500mg's to 600mg's to cut and maintain their current mass. I'm a huge fan of test for everthing but eveyone's different so just see what you react to best.