ecstasy - cutting for comp?

[Little Rage]

ok so how many of u actually tried ecstasy out there???

i've heard pros use E when cutting for a competiton...

but if u tried E MOST people after their comedown, or crash,and even the next day actually become very hungry. They will eat excessive amounts of food due to being fatigued and b/c they have not eaten anything during the period they were rollling.

any thoughts/comments?

 

[drew0472]

Its not something I really do anymore but I couldn't eat right for days after I rolled All night and I was dehydrated know matter how much I drank. It seems pretty catabolic to me.Maybe my doses were just excessive

 

[Little Rage]

just wondering ...how much were ur doses?

how many pills were u popping thorugh the nite...?

 

[Blonski]

I have used 'e' before and did just as much research on it as I have AS.

The first thing I would like to say is that the majority of people on these boards look at 'e' the same way the general public look at AS.

The first thing BB's say is do some research and maybe you will realise I can be done properly. Same story with 'e'. It's all about managing your body's chemicals and hormone levels.

If you were serious, go to www.bluelight.nu and research 5-HTP as a precursor to Seratonin and read about how you can avoid nasty come-downs. Check out their board - pretty good.

A loss of appetite is what actually happens for the following days.

Just like AS, there are scammers for 'e' out there as well. Hell, 'e' was used medicinally long before socially. Make sure you get it from someone you know and trust and do it carefully.

I am not saying to do it, but saying treat it like AS and take the time and effort you put into learning about it when considerig 'e'.

Blonski

 

[Hoover]

It is some fun stuff. Makes me lose a little weight, so my abs actually look better when my shirt is off in the club. But dont abuse it. Stuff messes with your brain also dehydrates you. I would not use it for cutting for pre comp. I feel fine the next day. Usually a little more hungry. Tend to get home at 7 am and pig out. That can also be a negative. I do not feel that it is positive towards training, but you have to have your fun every once and a while. Occasionaly use is okay in my book.

 

[Little Rage]

shit i don't know how u people dont eat for days after u use it...

i roll for the entire night...and i never have a 'crash' from it... but the next day i pound the food like a mofo....i eat everything in sight...

but when i'm on it of course from sweating i usually look somewhat more defined, but nothing big, not for that kind of money...

4 pills for the entire night...having me paying 80... couldn't see people using it for cutting up

 

[yokedaddy]

i can't eat shit the next day. take a few GABA's before you go to sleep after your roll. supposedly, it helps w/ the reuptake of serotonin.

 

[drew0472]

I'm not putting any drugs down and I won't bullshit you I love drugs! E is definately one of my favorites I just can't do it and train(gain) the way I want. To answer your question I went from two tabs the 1st time up to as many as 8-11 in a night (long night).Me and my ex used to do it about once a week for abou 6 months, it was a blast. Don't get caught though the penaltys are real bad do to mega media coverage especially here in Fl. where I am.

 

[Blonski]

Seriously, anything over 2 should be all you need. 1.5 for a beginner....but, I talking Aussie and have no idea what you little fellas are like.

The more you do it the more you need. Your seratonin levels control your high......once it is gone, every pill you pop is extra poison!

Blonski

 

[drew0472]

Your giving an exact answer to a question that can't be answered that way,1st everyone is diferant 2nd if you've been to bluelight than you know every pill is usually dif. As far as Seratonin levels go, the more you take doesn't mean you can peak higher but the high will def. last longer.

 

[Blonski]

Drew, I'm just saying, from my experience, that a peak may last a good 3-4 hours, but poppin' more won't make it last longer for me. You will still be fucked up, but not peaking......for me, it's all about the peak and dancing.....you can have a better night on 2 than some nights on 4.

Just a personal opinion, nothing set in concrete....

(has anyone else noticed I leave loads of words out of my messages? My fingers just can't keep up with my brain!)

Blonski

 

[drew0472]

Blonski, definately not flaming you bro, You def. seem to know what your talking about. I haven't rolled in almost a year and have really been thinking about it lately, maybe for the 4th of july. I think had I been smarter about my dosages before I probably wouldn't have felt so shitty the next couple of days plus not so depressed by tuesdays from such a seratonin crash.The problem w/ just taking two is I just keep wanting just 1 more

 

[Darksun]

Drew... I'm in the same boat as you...

Use some G to come down (or Nubain)... And smoke some herb the next day if needed to get your appetite up...

As to cutting up, no way with E's...

If you are to go this route (not recommended) try smoking some crystal with foil, a straw and lighter... It will beat the shit out of some Tabs for cutting...

You will get cut as a bastard before going catabolic...

 

[drew0472]

Blonski, it was littleRage that was askink about cutting and E ,wait loss is not what I want I just look at a tredmill and my bodyfat goes down, My problem is putting the wait on. So you you see my diemma, Love to roll but don't want to lose the wait. When I do though I will try the nubain, I usually just pop a zanny. Am I weird though nubain sometimes makes it hard for me to sleep to,I do love that Morphine style High though . How does it feel w/ the E ?

 

[Darksun]

Drew...

If you use too much Nubain -- not only do you get a weird taste in your mouth but, you body seems to start to race and sleep is impossible... I have experienced this on several occasions
Thus, a "benzo" is recommended instead... Or, a nice fat Opiate...

 

[drew0472]

DCS, read the whole conv. , Know one is talking about cutting up I made it clear thats def. not what I need to do Body fats around 9% rt. now . I was talking about taking E for the 1st time in a year just for fun on the 4th. Like I stated before all these drugs seem catabolic and therefore conterproductive to the cause.

 

[Blonski]

DCS

That's a well research cycle, how many times have you used it....






...Joking!


Blonski....


PS. Crush the rolls and put them in a capsule, the finer the powder, the less it irritates your stomach. I can to the conclusion that if you just dump the whole thing, it sits in the one spot and burns away....finer, faster, harder and make sure you take some shakes with you!

 

[Little Rage]

mmmmmmm new cycle....
thanx DCS for the new idea for the cycle...

gonna call some people and get the goods... hopefully start the new cycle starting monday

 

[drew0472]

I think if DCS doesn't have anything nice to say he just shouldn't say anything at all.

 

[Darksun]

WTF... DCS? Not a flame but…

If someone asks a question... I am going to answer it to the best of my ability...
If you do not approve, just say no and move on...

BTW, this is a board that "joe public" would probably find offensive... Thusly, do not judge any of its participants or content... As a member, you have no room to judge... You can't get a little pregnant.

While I don’t condone all of the recommendations, I am educated enough to filter out those topics I don’t agree with and move on without flaming…
Plus, a little late-night BS’ing about some things outside-the-box is Ok and adds to the interest of this board…

Go back to www.Good_Ship_loolipop.com… (Not a valid link)

Peace oh Perfect One!!!

 

[drew0472]

Darksun,I totally agree. still we didn't mean to offend and were by know means giving advice, just bullshitting w/ one another

 

[Riker29]

DCS is right.

If you are dedicated enough to consider AS, then you should realize how bad E will mess up your training and all.

And if you want to do E, fine, but dont think then that doing AS will make up for it.

I hope the mods trash this thread.

Thats just my opinion. I am sure you kiddies will all have fun blowing your brains apart. Party on!

The answer - NO - doing E is stupid to even think about using for cutting.

Question answered, game over.

 

[drew0472]

Did your post have anything to do w/ what was being said? did you not read or just not think before you posted . Where was anything said about using steroids to make up for wait lost on drug binges? you sound like someone was trying to help crackheads build muscle

 

[Blonski]

Although I haven't been out for quite some time, I can very easily have a good night and jump on the scales and read exactly what I did the day before. By also managing it very carefully, like AS, one can have a big night and feel ONLY tired the next day.

I thought the minds of some of the more intellectual members could honestly appreciate this given the research I have done. Maybe they will after they have read the post (if it remains).

I understand people immediately bagging it, but hey....I personally feel alcohol is dirty water, but I don't cain those who drink it......each to their own - but really, who here can say they know the ins and outs of a night on the piss and how not to feel hung over the next day? Not many.......

DCS, you are a funny man - I saw the humour, but hey, call me Mr Sarcasm....

Blonski

 

[Daeo]

oh yes! E is an excellent competition prep drug. It is a backbone to most pro cycles. Here is a cycle that I hear is real good,

week 1-8
ectasy 50mg ed
week 1-4
LSD eod
week 1-10
crystal meth 1000mg/week (intravenous)
week 5-8
shrooms
week1-12
weed

also cocaine is good cutting, budweiser good for bulking. Throw these in. PCP is good strenght drug I hear. Heard kazmeir took it all the time in the 80's

That cycle looks good except one thing. Where's the crack?!? It's a vital part of any cutting cycle. Just think about it. How many sliced crackhead have you seen. Alot...

 

[tricepula]

X fucks with your mood and your memory too much. My short term memory doesn't even exist anymore and I get angry quite easily thanx to X and the raves in FL in the mid 90's!! Maybe if I knew then what I know now I could have used it more responsibly. Drew, if you've taken between 8-11 pills in a night then you need to go to rehab! The most I ever took was 5 and I should have went because a week later I was in the ER drinking this wonderful charcoal drink so I wouldn't die! 2-3 beans once or twice a year is okay as long as you take the right supps with it, but the fun you'll have is definitely addicting. Be safe and get out of S. Fl, the drugs are too cheap there!!!!

 

[Riker29]

Hey lets design a Crack, E, Meth, and Beer cycle!

While you dumdasses walk around all stoned,

I am making the money you wont ....

having the fun that you wont ....

and doing the chicks that you wont.

PARTY ON BROS!!!!!!!!

 

[nexus7]

Is this question for real?????

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Look upon thyself from an outside eye before imposing judgement upon others.

Think of how society views you and your "hobby".

If you speak from your heart- fine. But be careful, sometimes it is hard to know where your heart ends and the results of years of indoctrination begin.


IMHO

Recreational drugs have their place-

I do not beleive that E is a good cutting drug-
it is catabolic- like most amphetamine derivatives
there are far better substitutes.

if abused E can cause Severe Depression,
this is compounded by the fact that the people who get the most out of E are either clinically depressed or borderline.


Nubain- while on the topic- is not a drug to play with lightly- it can be very addictive and a tolerance quickly develops. It has been implicated in Dan Duchaine's death.


All things have their place, you just have to find where they fit in your life without destroying your balance.


peace

 

[Julez]

Indeed Dan Duchaine condemned the use of amphetamine's for cutting due to their extreme catabolic propertys.

Having said that I have been known to do the odd pill. For fun - NOT for cutting.

 

[CCrom]

The answer to the question lies in the what the compound has to contribute to our development as bodybuilders! So, it's like macrophage69alpha said; for BB reasons, it's too catabolic!

Crom

 

[Bulldog_10]

DCS that's fucking hilarious!
But I would add some crack or heroin in there for some vascularity!