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Exctasy

In order to help lessen the catabloic effects due to ingesting MDMA, either by CNS depression or the effects of the methanphetamine....
what kind of sups should be taken?
i.e. l-glutamine, BCAA's?

Also, what could be done to opt water retention?

Thanks in advance for the replies.
 
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the most important thing...

is to protect your brain. take 5-htp, magnesium, vit c, etc.. read the everything you need to know about ecstacy thread to get all the info.

i make sure i post load, and have a gainer shake when i come home and then make sure i have a few shakes the next day too. glutamine would be good because of the anticatabolic effect. gnc has "mega glutamine" with 5g of glut and NAC, a potent antioxidant, too.

one question i have: how does everyone in europe feel about ecstacy. the shit over there is pure, plentiful and cheap. they have been rolling way longer and harder than us. techno clubs and pills were blowing up over there ten years ago.

i would really like to hear from someone who lives in europe or has gone over to party as to their opinion of e. if it is really that bad for you it seems like they would have realized by now. i think the us really has a fucked up perception and policy regarding drugs.

i cant stand it when some fat, drunk bitch with a cigarette in her hand says she wont take e because "you dont know what it may do to you in 10 years."

WTF is that about? you DO know how many deaths are associated with alcohol related accidents, coronary heart disease caused by obesity, and lung cancer from smoking.

AND ECSTACY IS A FUCKIN HELL OF A LOT MORE FUN THAN ALL 3!!

i know its not "good" for you, but i think once a month is alright as long as you take some supplements for your brain.
 
" E once a month is alright?"

sorry bro- not true

taking extasy once can permanently damage seratonin nerve terminals and this can affect your state of mood-
cause permanant depression
affect memory
and inhibit u from learning things easliy- u will fail school or suck at your job eventually

i used to roll once in a while thinking it was safe but i took this class on hte brain where we covered exstacy and i think its my duty as a good person to alert people about the dangers of drugs

Be careful

Drug Free by 2003!!!
later
omar
 
Re: " E once a month is alright?"

omar said:
sorry bro- not true

taking extasy once can permanently damage seratonin nerve terminals and this can affect your state of mood-
cause permanant depression
affect memory
and inhibit u from learning things easliy- u will fail school or suck at your job eventually

i used to roll once in a while thinking it was safe but i took this class on hte brain where we covered exstacy and i think its my duty as a good person to alert people about the dangers of drugs

Be careful

Drug Free by 2003!!!
later
omar
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prove it
i have seen to non-conclusive studies (by the nature of being complete opposites) done on rats which stated after taking 75 pills over time (750 mg MDMA) either your serotonin levels were regular or 20% lower.
right now your talking hype, if you show me the tests than i will be surprised
 
there were some ppt slides from my class on the net but now they are off since classes from fall are over.

BAsically the slides said: E depletes 80% of seratonin in whole brain after 3 hours of dosage and it can cause permanent damage; the slides also shows the rats' brains; one on X clearly has missing brain cells; and the rat brain that's normal is ok
The brain is seen by Nissle Stains if u know about that;

sorry i cant get to my text book right now and scan u that shit; but if u really want evidence i can give u my Neuroscience's prof's email and i think he'll be more than happy to answer and give u all that shit sice it's his research;
later



Drug Free
by 2003!!!

Omar
 
omar said:
there were some ppt slides from my class on the net but now they are off since classes from fall are over.

BAsically the slides said: E depletes 80% of seratonin in whole brain after 3 hours of dosage and it can cause permanent damage; the slides also shows the rats' brains; one on X clearly has missing brain cells; and the rat brain that's normal is ok
The brain is seen by Nissle Stains if u know about that;

sorry i cant get to my text book right now and scan u that shit; but if u really want evidence i can give u my Neuroscience's prof's email and i think he'll be more than happy to answer and give u all that shit sice it's his research;
later



Drug Free
by 2003!!!

Omar
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As hard as it is for me to do.. i..ii...ii. ... I agg..... ree.


Really.. X is horrible shit for you man. There is soo much out there for you to put in your body. That is not the stuff. If you watched it made you would side with me. No supps would help.
 
omar said:
there were some ppt slides from my class on the net but now they are off since classes from fall are over.

BAsically the slides said: E depletes 80% of seratonin in whole brain after 3 hours of dosage and it can cause permanent damage; the slides also shows the rats' brains; one on X clearly has missing brain cells; and the rat brain that's normal is ok
The brain is seen by Nissle Stains if u know about that;

sorry i cant get to my text book right now and scan u that shit; but if u really want evidence i can give u my Neuroscience's prof's email and i think he'll be more than happy to answer and give u all that shit sice it's his research;
later

Omar
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As long as seratonin levels are high to begin with (frontload with 5-HTP) then there is very little chance that Dopamine (released by MDMA) could secrete into the seratonin areas, therefore nuero damage is minimized

thankyou for your post and i would love to contact your professor
shoot me a pm or post where i can reach him
 
omar, you are full of shit and i know from my own personal experience. I have eaten more pills than most on this board have ever seen. i used to roll three nights a week and ate over three each time. Hell there were many weekends when i'd pop 10 rolls just for the hell of it, money was pletiful, i stayed in shape and i got tons of puss. And as for being dumb, hell the last two years of my partying i stayed on the deans list at a major engineering school and got my BS in mechanical engineering. Hell there were times i went to class still half rolling!! Now im not saying the shit is good for you, im sure it causes some damage to the brain, but you are NOT going to tell me that rolling once, twice or even twenty times will make you dumb, believe me bro, if so i'd be dumb as hell! I still party but not nearly as frequently, im more into my body now than i was then, although i was juiced and the biggest rave monkey at all clubs! But i must say, i definitely don't think rolls are nearly as bad as drinking, smoking and all the other shit out there. So im speaking from my own experience, not some book or some test on fucking rats, i am still in school and hold a very good job, almost have my masters degree, so don't tell me rolling once will make you dumb bro.
 
Another thing, as a researcher myself it just kills me how all these fucking professors and doctors can research any topic known to man and the result they get is just what they hypothesized to begin with. I mean i bet you anything that professor was against extacy and told everyone it was the devil long before he researched it to prove himself right. The truth is the scientific world allows so much room for error that any person can prove nearly anything.
 
Re: the most important thing...

Immortal Juicer said:



i cant stand it when some fat, drunk bitch with a cigarette in her hand says she wont take e because "you dont know what it may do to you in 10 years."

WTF is that about? you DO know how many deaths are associated with alcohol related accidents, coronary heart disease caused by obesity, and lung cancer from smoking.

AND ECSTACY IS A FUCKIN HELL OF A LOT MORE FUN THAN ALL 3!!
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Excellent point!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had no idea x was catabolic, however........
I guess I need to stock up on my glut. (I have already ) and the other supps for the next time I roll....probably in a few weeks...
I only do it on avg every 5-6 weeks............
 
By the way-- HAVING SEX ON E!!!!!!!!!!! WHOOOOOOOHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p ;) :D :mix: :horny:
 
The honest to God truth is that any drug in moderation won't do permanent damage.....mind you I emphasize moderation....it doesn't matter what drug or substance........its all about moderation and control....if you don't go nuts with it you'll be ok


:teleport:
 
Preloading:

1. 5-HTP - 200-400mg
2. L-Tyrosine - 500-1500mg
3. DLPA - 500-1500mg
4. Vitamin C - 1000+, since it is water soluble and so protective you really can't go wrong going high. Remember that
orange juice and fruits are comparatively lower sources of vitamin C compared to supplements.
5. L-Glutamine - 2-5 grams
6. Magnesium - 500-1000mg

Post load:

1. 5-HTP - 200-400mg
2. Vitamin C - 1000mg+
3. Magnesium - 500-1000mg

Anyone care to add more to this list (supplements to protect yourself from the side effects of exctasy.)

Click here for more info on Exctasy
 
Yo Mag
you listed sups to protect your brain against nureological damage
i am curiouse as to how one can surpress the catabolic effect of MDMA
bump for info
 
don't forget a big dose of SSRis like Prozac 3-4 hours later.It significantly protects
against MDMAs neurotoxic effects.Stop using SSRIs a few day before the roll though
because they weaken the roll.
 
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