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Ecstacy and AS

tonystrong

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What are you opinions on chillin at a club using Ecstacy and/or K while on AS? How much does this f#$k up your body?? How much muscle does it destroy ? Fat? Its obvious that alot of people do it, just check out the club scene in NYC. So if you do, or don't I want to hear some opinions
 
Actually alot of Pros and semi-pros use it to cut up. It is a heavy duiretic and raises your body temp a few degrees so make sure your drinking ALOT of water. I'm sure you'll get some replies saying that you shouldn't do drugs if your a serious lifter because they are bad bla bla bla, but anything can be bad for you if you don't use common sense. Moderation is key. Also there are alot of bunk rolls going around with things that are not MDMA. Either get them from a reliable sourse or test them with an EZ-Test kit first.
 
I always take ecstacy when i'm on gear, sometimes up to 5 pills a night. You feel like shit the next day like you lost 20 lbs., but in reality you didn't lose anything at all. The second day afetre you do it, you body is back to normal and you are back to the gym doing th esame wight as before (actually, i think it rips me up, but thats my opinion).
 
I;ve done pills before and know how i feel afterward. I just never did them when on the gear and was wondering if it makes it worse for your body. this may be stupid but would you rather drink or do E.
 
I hit up Sound Factory and Exit in NYC and if you see some of the muscle heads in there you probably wouldn't think that Exs. does anything to you. These guys are ripped to a perfecttion, they are rolling on E and K out of their minds.

In my opinion it makes me feel and look ripped as hell, it sucks the water out of your body(dehydration), so when you have a shit load of water retention you look really ripped, only last about two days, then .....here comes the water!!!!
 
When I did X, I was fatigued for a week afterwards. NOT a good idea if you are going to be lifting that week.

be careful bro
 
I LIKE SOUND FACTORY NYC BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROTEIN SHAKES MADE TO ORDER RIGHT IN THE CLUB. WHEN I'M WHACKE OFF MY AS TILL 10 AM IN THE CLUB, I LIKE TO HAVE A SHAKE ONCE EVERY TWO HOURS. PSYCHLOGICALLY I FEEL LIKE I'M STAYING HEALTHY EVEN THOUGH I'M ON A FEW PILLS.
 
Bro,
I used to do both a while back with no real issues other than feeling like shit next day. But bro, you got to have respect for body, by doing both AS and E you are buring the candle at both ends. The body is not invinsible as i once thought as well. these days either one or the other.
 
Its not my place to say, but 5 pills in one night is way to much, when i take 2 i feel really down for at least 3 days.
 
E causes permanent brain damage. At least one of the mechanisms by which this happens is that it releases a shit load of seretonin into the brain all at once, frying neurons. I would never touch the stuff.
 
I'll do it every once in a while. It burns me out for a few days though. I dont do it as much when I'm on though. Why train hard 5 days a week and eat clean, then go destroy gains with X? That is definately burning the candle at both ends.
 
From what I've seen from extacy users I'll never touch the shit. Everyone that I know looks like death warmed over for couple days after. Doesn't sound like fun to me...
 
The depression afterwards is the fuckin' worst. I compare X to good feelings on credit. You'll feel completely wonderful for a few hours or a night, but you pay it back the next few days afterwards. New users don't get it much, but after you've dropped quite a few times, you'll notice the depression and side effects. I wouldn't use it on a cycle, just because of the apathy and depression that follows. You might not feel like doing shit (including eating due to E's amphetamine like qualities). You'll also dehydrate easily (not good for bulking). But you'll probably roll hard as hell, I know I did coming off my last cycle... hard excercise has been shown to increase serotonin, and you'll be a bad ass cat in the club with a nice body and all the confidence chemistry can buy. Just be safe whatever you do.
 
X

I use esctacy quite a lot when I am cutting but really try to stay away from it whilst bulking. Personally I feel the come down is only hard because you have lost a nights sleep and have been dancing all night from clubbing. I also feel this is what may be the catabolic reason of clubbing, not the effect of the pill on your body itself.
 
I do both and have double dropped whilst on DNP. I was told not to but a bber in London got in touch and said he had done it before, plus I wasn't suffering with the heat at all. I drink alcohol as well and sometimes a little whizz too. Before and after the onslaught I take loads of antioxidants and milk thistle. I wouldn't reccomend this to anyone else though, I just find that my body can handle drugs both medical and recreational very well. When I get prescribed anything it usually has to be like double what anyone else would take.
 
The depression can be almost totally wiped away if you take Prozac,Zoloft or 5 HTP right when you go to bed after rollin'
Rotten-Good call about pill testing-It would really suck to get a DXM or PMA pill

J
 
E sucks..........the whole culture makes me sick.

my 2 cents\
 
I take prozac anyway and don't pay for it because I am so poor! So a bit extra after the e. Oh, did I mention sometimes there is a bit of pot thrown in there too.

I have decided that I am a huge chemistry experiment, I am a chemist after all and it could be counted as research. I could be the person with the most chemicals in them.

My liver doesn't hurt or anything I think I am a freak.

Has anyone in the US seen that TV programme we have over here called 'Don't do this at home!' ?
 
XTC

LIMP BIZKIT SAID IT BEST: KEEP ROLLIN, ROLLIN ROLLIN

THE FDA SAY, MAKE SURE TO TAKE YOUR E FOR HEALTHY SKIN
 
XTC

LIMP BIZKIT SAID IT BEST: KEEP ROLLIN, ROLLIN ROLLIN

THE FDA SAY, MAKE SURE TO TAKE YOUR E FOR HEALTHY SKIN
 
If some of you guys out there are taking rolls simply to shred fat, try getting your hands on some speed. Speed one of the major components in E anyway these days so why mess around with the MDMA and heroin. Cut out the middle man. Just my $.02
 
Speed is not a component of E, that is a common misconception. MDMA shares molecular similarties to Methamphetamine, that is why it has properties similar to speed, but for the most part it does not contain speed.
 
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I'd have to agree with biopsychfitness. Also, it would be useless and too expensive for x to include Heroin. If it did, the pills would be expensive and the absorption of heroin orally is horrible (why do you think its injected or snorted) Adding Prozac to the mix is very dangerous. Prozac will break down the DMAE and Seretonin into the worst free radical, hydrogen peroxide. Need to know more, check out www.dancesafe.com
X and AS is an awesome combo, but the depletion isn't worth it. You may be ripped the next morning, but you probably experienced a lot of urinary urea histidine (muscle wasting). Try taking glutamine or other anticatabolics to reduce breakdown while you're rolling your balls off. Using special K might really decrease your appetite and make you an insomniac for the next week. I prefer G and X, but not when I'm commited to AS.
:rolleyes:
 
bro, i've rolled on numerous occasions, and have rolled on cycles many times. If you take care of your body and you know what you are doing, you will be fine.
5-HTP's are a natural supplement you can get at a vitamin store, they are the precursor or substance your body uses to make serotonin, therefore upping your body's ability to recover after rolling on E. And as far as the culture, i love it, everyone loves everyone and its definitely the best feeling in the world, especially when you are at a huge rave with your shirt off and all the little rave sluts are rubbing all over your huge ripped muscles!
 
I've rolled many times on a cycle, it's just to damn fun not to. I say take the pill roll your ass of and recover the next day.
 
I loved E. I use to do it every weekend out in the hamptons(NY) a couple of years ago. and few times last year. I'm always on juice during the summer so I've always done it while on. I stopped when I started going to grad school and I really had to study as opposed to undergrad ;) However, what really deterred me from dropping bombs!! was ---that I started to get like "electric shocks" down the side of my face, right around my jaw. really strange. then I found out that E leads to parkinsons disease.... "supposedly" So then I just decided not to do it as often. however, whenever I do it I still get a mild "shock" on the side of my face.

has anyone experienced similar side effects???
 
no shocks, but i don't feel as great on E anymore, i just feel like my jaw locks (which it does) and i get all stiff. Try playing around with GHB, just not too much.
 
My biggest prob with rolling on AS is that you lose your appetite the next day so I always end up losing a few pounds.
 
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