ECA stacks and dehydration- rant:

[casavant]

How come this doesn't come up more? ECA, caffeine,-all that shit- dehydrates the piss out of you. 99% of the time when I mention this to someone, they say, "Drink a lot of water." Well let me tell ya, I am the most water drinking motherfucker you'll ever meet. But when you're on a thermogenic, you keep pissing and pissing and pissing. Fine, go drink a quart of water...and see just how fast you shoot it out your urethra like a goddamned firehose. That shit will stay in your system for the whole fucking day- you'd have to have an IV drip to keep up, and I'm not even sure that would help. Forget taking creatine too. You'll just be wasting your money. This is one of the biggest downfalls of ECA or it's herbal equivalents. But most magazines also sell at least one fat burner, so you won't hear it mentioned in any more than an offhand manner. If the shit weren't so good at buning fat and boosting energy, I'd flush it right down the toilet. Fucking nasty shit...

 

[GLADIATOR351]

you think ECA is bad... Try some LASIX..

 

[WODIN]

I totally got off all ECA's I feel a thousand percent better right now! Hydration is a wonderful thing. I know what your talking about bro. I was there in earley February with a shit load of muscle aches as well. It is not worth it!

 

[saint808]

NYC is even worse with the hydration issues... but i am addicted to the stuff... which is funny because nor-ephedrine is a chemical cousin to methamphetamine.... oh crap... no wonder i like the stuff so much LOL

 

[casavant]

I totally got off all ECA's I feel a thousand percent better right now! Hydration is a wonderful thing. I know what your talking about bro. I was there in earley February with a shit load of muscle aches as well. It is not worth it!

Man, I hear that. I hear people talk about the great steroid pumps they get. If they would just get off any kind of diruretic whatsoever, including any Coke, Mountain Dew, etc., they'd be friggin' amazed at the volumization that can be achieved. I try to stay away from ephedrine whenever possible, but my 60 hour weeks drive me to rely on Vivarin too heavily at times. My workouts ALWAYS suffer. To be fully hydrated is a wonderful feeling- your body as a whole just feels right. Everything feels better and your skin gets nice and soft. I used to get a rush of euphoria off ECA- now I just get pissed off at the world and miserable. Then I get to deal with getting the water back in there the next couple of days.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

There are days that I get dehydrated, but most of the time it doesn't seem to be a problem staying hydrated. I drink several gallons of water a day though.

 

[mekannik]

There are days that I get dehydrated, but most of the time it doesn't seem to be a problem staying hydrated. I drink several gallons of water a day though.

Several gallons??!?!??

I drink 1, maybe 1.5, gallons a day (training or not) and have to piss several times a day.

Do you have a cathater on you or just hang out in the community pool all day long?

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Several gallons??!?!??

I drink 1, maybe 1.5, gallons a day (training or not) and have to piss several times a day.

Do you have a cathater on you or just hang out in the community pool all day long?

It is straight up unbearable at times. Sometimes it's as often as pissing once every 20 minutes... The chick that sits at the desk adjacent to our bathroom thinks I'm some sort of freak (she's partly right...lol). Add coffee and tea to the mix and it's a party...

Mostly I drink a lot in the early and midday and taper down over the evening (except while I'm working out, I may drink another half gallon or more then too).

 

[WODIN]

Cas - look into white ginseng extract to give you that energy boost your needing instead of the eca or caffiene. I have been buying "Ginseng 2500" at my local grocery store. It will give you the same sensation of alertness you need and boost your energy levels.

 

[casavant]

Cas - look into white ginseng extract to give you that energy boost your needing instead of the eca or caffiene. I have been buying "Ginseng 2500" at my local grocery store. It will give you the same sensation of alertness you need and boost your energy levels.

Thanks. I'll do that. Gotta get off this damn caffeine. Yuck.