I find it much cheaper to just buy the drugs seperately and mix myself. I take 3 or 4 stacks a day from added dimensions in Calgary Alberta. 25 mg ephidrine, 200mg caffeine, and 325mg aspirin. 2 weeks on 1 off, 2 days on, 1 day off. I find it works, but is not Gods gift to dieting or anything. Diet will always be the most important aspect of losing weight, unless you're using DNP, which still requires a clean diet for max effects. Clen is also good to use in the same way, and you can alternate back and forth.