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how many cal/protein you consume a day ??

  • 3000/100gr protein

    Votes: 218 33.1%

  • 4000/200gr protein

    Votes: 300 45.6%

  • 5000/300gr protein

    Votes: 91 13.8%

  • +more than above

    Votes: 47 7.1%
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protobe

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How many here know that eating big gets big gains or how many think so ?? I think so I know when i eat more chicken and beef i notice a bigger appearance and recover faster. Now tons of protein help that too. So my question here is how many cal odo you consume a day and protein too
 
Pretty shitty that no one would answer your post....I probably take in 3,00 calories and 200g. of protein...never have counted, but I should....just too damn hard to find all the macros for all the veggies I eat.....
 
I aim for 200g protein, don't really count calories though. Anyone else think it can be hard sometimes to cram all that meat down, especially when you're not hungry?
 
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i eat as much posiable pizza,pasta everyday weight gainer shake tuna all of that 5000+ cal lots of carbs from carbo force and xxl try those real good!!
 
260-280....eat more, gain more, cut, repeat....when I started I was at 220. My weight goes from a high of 280-296, and drop back down to about 5 pounds over start....
 
260-280 pounds,depending....eat more, gain more, cut, repeat....when I started I was at 220. My weight goes from a high of 280-296, and drop back down to about 5 pounds over start....sitting at 264 right now gonna start soon.:D
 
JKurz1 said:
and your results are???? CHUBBINESS?????
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There are people that can remain reasonably lean while eating 3500-5000 cals a day, but they are metabolic freaks/hardgainers. If I was truly limited by genetics and was a hardgainer, I'd be eating like that as well out of necessity.
 
Toozee said:
When bulking I do anywhere from 3000-4000 cals per day, with about a 40/30/30 (p/c/f) breakdown.
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So fat is an important part then? I take it not saturated fat, or does it not matter?
 
400 + grams protein calories , who knows ? lots of steak & chicken / tons of horrible tasting protein shakes oh yeah also once a week trip to a buffet where i load up on sushi I am 5'8" 230 lbs and have just changed from power lifting to body building and coming along well :alien: :D
 
mphowells said:
So fat is an important part then? I take it not saturated fat, or does it not matter?
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EFA's do wonders. Good fats are the majority, but a little sat.fat sneaks in there on occassion. :qt:
 
Been eating 4500-5200 cals a day with 300g of prot, making excellent gains. I noticed if I lower my eating to 3500-4000 I won't gain nothing. Tough because eating so much is hard. complaning.
 
I would also like to see how 5200 calories looks like on a menu. Can one of you high enders describe a normal day?
 
I have an extremly high metabolism... so I have to eat very big for gains... I am on a mass building diet right now (working very nice) and it consists of approx 3,500 cal and 235+g of protien. It kills me sometimes though, cause the bigger you get, the more fuel you need...... for reg dieting though, I average at about 2,500 and 240g.
I keep an annoying (but useful) daily cal/protien count journal on a tiny pocket sized spiral notepad.... keeps me on track!
 
right now Im anywhere from 200-250(high end if I get real hungry) and about 2500-2800 cals,trying to keep it clean and not add fat while bulking

jkurz do you eat 200g prot and bulk? or are you cutting? just curious as to what other guys are doing since I can bulk great with the 200-250 range
 
7:00AM = 4 scrambled eggs
2-3 hardboiled eggwhites
10-12 Oz Yogurt
1-2 cups oatmeal

9:30AM = 44 Gram Protein Shake

11:30-12:30 = 1 chicken breast and 2 drumsticks
1/4 thick slice of roast beef
1-2 cups rice
salad (olives,mushrooms,fat free ranch, croutons)

3:00PM = 44 Gram Protein Shake

5:30PM = 8 Oz steak
5 Hot wings
A bunch of shrimp
some kind of pasta
8:30PM = either a couple tablespoons peanut butter or 32 Gram protein bar :sick:

I can't always maintain eating that much food but thats about an average day for me. Always chicken/beef/turkey or fish for lunch and dinner meals, 1 carb source, and usually try and throw some veggies in there. I just started lifting for mass about 6 months ago too and the first 4 months I gained about
5-6 Lbs with a terrible diet. In the last 2 months I have gained 15 Lbs from eating this way and almost no fat. I can still see my abs and I have no gut. Eating fucking rocks!!! I admit though at time its hard as fuck to keep choking down all that food every single day ughh
 
Ohh yeah and I am 6"1 193-95 Lbs and have always been a hardgainer skinny ass weenie!! and I still am!! :worried: Hoping to remedy that step by step though.
 
I eat anywhere from 2300-10000 calories per day..... when i eat 10,000 its my normal diet plus 3lbs of raw almonds (costco)

my shits look like almond joy bars for a 2 days after that though....
 
OXANDRIN said:
I eat anywhere from 2300-10000 calories per day..... when i eat 10,000 its my normal diet plus 3lbs of raw almonds (costco)

my shits look like almond joy bars for a 2 days after that though....
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that a joke???
 
I dont have a clue how many calories I eat a day, but I try to eat 3 solid meals and drink a total of 5 servings of shakes a day, so what ever that equals out to hoepfully around 3500 cals and 250-300g Protein...

when I was in Kosovo, I was on top of a mountain for a couple of weeks with nothing buy my equipment and boxes of MRE's. there were a couple of days where I ate anywhere form 8 to 10 MRE's in a day, and they are about 1200 to 1600 calories apiece...I was doin the Kimchee squat alot!!!!!
 
meal ready to eat...US military rations. Very crappy nutritional profile from a bodybuilding perspective and always comes with hot sauce to cover up the crappy taste.
 
JavaGuru said:
meal ready to eat...US military rations. Very crappy nutritional profile from a bodybuilding perspective and always comes with hot sauce to cover up the crappy taste.
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ACtually Bro, I dont know when you ate an MRE last, but they have gotten alot better, I have aten them for about 6 years now, so I might be numb to them...but, they actually ahve some pretty healthy ones, where you can get a pretty good meal out of. but the tobasco sauce is true for most people, but I dont like it either, so lifes a bitch
 
They have gotten better over the years. I rememeber when I was in basic training in 1989 there was an MRE called "dehydrated beef patty", nasty. Nutritionally they are fine from a general population standpoint but certainly not bodybuilding standpoint. They are 1300 Kcal and 15% protein, even with three a day I always lost 10lbs-15lbs every time we went to the field.
 
JavaGuru said:
They have gotten better over the years. I rememeber when I was in basic training in 1989 there was an MRE called "dehydrated beef patty", nasty. Nutritionally they are fine from a general population standpoint but certainly not bodybuilding standpoint. They are 1300 Kcal and 15% protein, even with three a day I always lost 10lbs-15lbs every time we went to the field.
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yea I didnt really like them as much when I first joined, but that was just 6 years ago, now they are a little better when it comes down to healthy, but if you are smart when you eat them, and pick and choose what you eat out of each one, you can make a meal that is worth eating. But in no way am I saying that they are a good replacement for a real meal...but out here, I dont know if I ever get a real meal...lol
 
6'2, 195, 7%...........28yo...bench 315 for 2-3 (used to be 365, when I was 225), squat 405 (weak), deads never go above 315 for reps......nothing special, always learning!
 
JKurz1 said:
6'2, 195, 7%...........28yo...bench 315 for 2-3 (used to be 365, when I was 225), squat 405 (weak), deads never go above 315 for reps......nothing special, always learning!
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Really? Is that you in your av? I am 6'1" and 220 and I look skinnier than you, I think. You don't look skinny at all.

truesoldier, if you were eating 8-10 MRE's a day I'll bet you ran out of friggin' toilet paper, and your 1SG must have been going crazy wondering why you kept running out of Class 1!
 
Hahah...that's Lee Priest bro...I wish I could get that big again........7%, actualy 6.5 with the calipers today........look nothing like him.
 
Longhorn85 said:
Really? Is that you in your av? I am 6'1" and 220 and I look skinnier than you, I think. You don't look skinny at all.

truesoldier, if you were eating 8-10 MRE's a day I'll bet you ran out of friggin' toilet paper, and your 1SG must have been going crazy wondering why you kept running out of Class 1!
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Nah, use the one piece of paper scoop and wipe!!! LOL but on the real, I just always used the baby wipe thing in the MRE and the little napkin paper when I couldnt get my hand on TP!!! But yea I was shitin like a fuckin horse all the time!!! but that was when I was on some crazy ass hilltop all by ourselves so I would just find a nice secluded area and do the ol "pop and squat routine"
 
My range is 4000 cals, when i started , i came to a point where bloat started to be a problem, so what i did was cut back on the simple sugars(anything that has this in it) and my carbs was only complex midday through the night and this solved the bloat problem where i was able to consume the rest of my meals with no problem
 
Maybe I'm from another planet, but I can eat +5000 calories a day while bulking and not gain more than 2lbs a week tops and I'm 5'8 1/2", 210lbs at prolly 17-18% BF.

Obviously I don't consider my metabolism real fast as I'm not lean nor thin boned, but my metabolism seems to go into hyperdrive when I lift.

I Aim for 350-400 grams protein a day.

Of course I'm not concerned with abs or carrying extra bodyfat. When I'm +250-260lbs and can bench over 400-450, squat over 750 and deadlift over 700, then I'll consider dieting for some abs. I'd rather be real big and real strong and a little chubby than small to medium with a 6 pack. Once I've got the size and strength, than I'll cut the fat and voila, pimp juice.

Everyone's got their own method. :chomp:
 
When you're undisciplined, you pay for it. I always sigh when I hear people say "eat everything in sight" when bulking. I mean common, saying "I'll gain some extra fat anyway" is just a lame excuse for eating 500 cals over what you really need to grow. Get enough protein in your system, eat quality carbs and fat, and I guarantee you can grow with very minimal fat gains. I've maintained sub- 9% BF during my bulking cycle because I was disciplined as hell. Last year, I just ate everything in sight - milk, kraft dinner, fatty beef... hell barely any junk food at all, and I ballooned to 15% BF. At least the sight of my abs dissapearing is enough motivation to eat well.
 
I'm hitting about 300 p a day /250 carb / and 90 fat. I'm 5'6 and 185 @10%. I can't eat much more though - but I'm paying the price b/c I've not gained an lb in 4.5 months!!!!
 
smaller said:
I'm hitting about 300 p a day /250 carb / and 90 fat. I'm 5'6 and 185 @10%. I can't eat much more though - but I'm paying the price b/c I've not gained an lb in 4.5 months!!!!
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you are just shooting yourself in the foot bro....trust me, I did it (underate) for 2 years...........finally learn that food is the most anabolic means out there.........well, didn't just LEARN it, I applied it..............
 
The problem with eating more is that I have to carry more food to school with me everyday. I'm in school from 9-9 m-f and food can only last so long unrefridgerated. This actually a big source of frustration for me at the moment because my training is stagnating as well and I'm sure what else I can - besides joining the 'Kill that Shit Administration'
 
GhettoStudMuffin said:
Of course I'm not concerned with abs or carrying extra bodyfat. When I'm +250-260lbs and can bench over 400-450, squat over 750 and deadlift over 700, then I'll consider dieting for some abs. I'd rather be real big and real strong and a little chubby than small to medium with a 6 pack. Once I've got the size and strength, than I'll cut the fat and voila, pimp juice.

Everyone's got their own method. :chomp:
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It depends on your goals, see if your just lifting for sport and fun then this method would be of use.

But if your serious about gaining size and putting on muscle(competition wise) then i think it would be best to have direction and monitor your progress. by just blowing all the way up and then cutting down will not tell you how much muscle is being put on, as opposed to eating big but clean so you can remain some what lean to continue to see your progress as far as muscle growth is concerned(which areas need work etc.). Blowing all the way up then cutting down is like going in blind, guessing and hoping for the right results. where as taking your time and keeping an eye on your progress will reap much better benefits and give you a realistic assessment of your physique. Real muscle growth takes time but some people think that they are shortcutting this time by just blowing up but when they diet down the reality of how much muscle they really put on sets in(not to mention the shaping and forming of the muscle) , so I say why not do it right the 1st time. peace
 
New_Mass said:
It depends on your goals, see if your just lifting for sport and fun then this method would be of use.

But if your serious about gaining size and putting on muscle(competition wise) then i think it would be best to have direction and monitor your progress. by just blowing all the way up and then cutting down will not tell you how much muscle is being put on, as opposed to eating big but clean so you can remain some what lean to continue to see your progress as far as muscle growth is concerned(which areas need work etc.). Blowing all the way up then cutting down is like going in blind, guessing and hoping for the right results. where as taking your time and keeping an eye on your progress will reap much better benefits and give you a realistic assessment of your physique. Real muscle growth takes time but some people think that they are shortcutting this time by just blowing up but when they diet down the reality of how much muscle they really put on sets in(not to mention the shaping and forming of the muscle) , so I say why not do it right the 1st time. peace
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Agreed, but many of us still undereat big time when trying to put on mass..........
 
RussianRocket said:
When you're undisciplined, you pay for it. I always sigh when I hear people say "eat everything in sight" when bulking. I mean common, saying "I'll gain some extra fat anyway" is just a lame excuse for eating 500 cals over what you really need to grow. Get enough protein in your system, eat quality carbs and fat, and I guarantee you can grow with very minimal fat gains. I've maintained sub- 9% BF during my bulking cycle because I was disciplined as hell. Last year, I just ate everything in sight - milk, kraft dinner, fatty beef... hell barely any junk food at all, and I ballooned to 15% BF. At least the sight of my abs dissapearing is enough motivation to eat well.
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agreed, but abs will and should disappear some when really bulking
 
That , my new friend, is what is EXACTLY holding me back.........I'm sitting at 7-8% bf and trying to bulk hard, but I'm so scared to lose them abs.....such a flippn mind game..........what does your diet look like? Stats?
 
I've tried eating big and clean before and I have never gotten really good results.... then I started eating everything I could get my hands on and I noticed more muscle growth and more size. I was 113lbs last year this time and I just broke 130lbs this week. Legs are growing, biceps look better, I don't see my abs but I'm lucky that I am one of the women that just doesn't care too much about that right now I am looking for the long run, it will pay off. I can cut down really easy and anything would be better than looking so skinny on stage last year so I am good with 4-5 meals a day with brutal fat content just as long as I get some protien. :chomp:
 
JKurz1 said:
That , my new friend, is what is EXACTLY holding me back.........I'm sitting at 7-8% bf and trying to bulk hard, but I'm so scared to lose them abs.....such a flippn mind game..........what does your diet look like? Stats?
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Im currently eating close to 4000 cals ed.
6ft
currently 240 and still in a bulking phase
 
I'm not totally kamikaze with what I eat and I always make sure I get alot of protein in.

I don't mean turning into a complete and total fatty, but also I'm not worrying about my bf% too much so long as my measurements increase and my strength keeps going up.

In the last 3 months I have put on about 14lbs and a little bit of it is fat. On the other hand my arms have grown 1.25" so you do the math lol. Roid free.

Also, the old school "BULK UP" method does work. If my arms weren't getting any bigger and other measurements weren't going up then I'd start worrying. If my weights weren't climbing then I'd get concerned.

You can bulk up while staying relatively lean, but it's gonna take you alot longer to gain the size I can in less time with more fat, and by the time I finish dieting I'll still have done it faster than the guy that tries to maintain some uber strict diet all the time for fear of losing his "abs".

At least, that's my opinion.
 
TRUEsoldier said:
ACtually Bro, I dont know when you ate an MRE last, but they have gotten alot better, I have aten them for about 6 years now, so I might be numb to them...but, they actually ahve some pretty healthy ones, where you can get a pretty good meal out of. but the tobasco sauce is true for most people, but I dont like it either, so lifes a bitch
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this is true, mre's are a lot better but you can get sick of them fast. the cheese that comes in almost all of them is shitty plain or jalepino, but the chicken and salsa is on point. if you can get your hands on the cold weather mre's they are ok also but they take a little longer to cook because a lot of it is freeze dried.
 
JKurz1 said:
That , my new friend, is what is EXACTLY holding me back.........I'm sitting at 7-8% bf and trying to bulk hard, but I'm so scared to lose them abs.....such a flippn mind game..........what does your diet look like? Stats?
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JKurz1, judging by your posts I think you have what I like to call "Calculated Anorexia".
 
Don't be afraid brotha, its all part of it u should know that

JKurz1 said:
That , my new friend, is what is EXACTLY holding me back.........I'm sitting at 7-8% bf and trying to bulk hard, but I'm so scared to lose them abs.....such a flippn mind game..........what does your diet look like? Stats?
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I stay around 1800-2000 cal/180-200 grm .Noticed as I get older it takes less of everything. Currently 45 @ 215 lbs. 12% BF .
 
JKurz1 said:
most of your posts are idiotic..........great work!
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You claim to be this fucking nutrition guru and all this shit...yet ALL of your posts are ridiculous JKURZ1..."I can't gain weight why"?, "I do cardio 7 days a week and can't stop, help!" "My liver is about to give out, what should i cram into my next cycle" You're guilty of all those :rainbow: posts bro. Get back to your CPA shit and give up BBing, it is NOT rocket science which you are so hard trying to make it! :rose:
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
put on some weight then
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"That , my new friend, is what is EXACTLY holding me back.........I'm sitting at 7-8% bf and trying to bulk hard, but I'm so scared to lose them abs.....such a flippn mind game..........what does your diet look like? Stats?"

another :rainbow: one
 
protobe said:
How many here know that eating big gets big gains or how many think so ?? I think so I know when i eat more chicken and beef i notice a bigger appearance and recover faster. Now tons of protein help that too. So my question here is how many cal odo you consume a day and protein too
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i eat about 5000 cal. and atleast 250-300 grams of protien
 
I don't count calories. But take 300g+ proten per day. (Bodyweight about 225lbs)
Last week I thought I'd give it a shot to try for 400g protein a day for just 1 week, felt great - this week I look "fuller" and found that while taking in 400g I wasn't sore at all. going back to about 300g I feel hungry all the time. Think I'll make it part of my cycle plan to hit 400g/day
 
In a bulking phase, about 4500 cals and about 350 g's of protein. I always end up with a bit of a belly. I usually end up 3-5 lbs heavier than when I started, though and gain some strength.
 
protobe said:
How many here know that eating big gets big gains or how many think so ?? I think so I know when i eat more chicken and beef i notice a bigger appearance and recover faster. Now tons of protein help that too. So my question here is how many cal odo you consume a day and protein too
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Calories: 1700-2000
Protein: 160 (I weigh 126 lbs)

It took awhile for me to trust the idea that a larger amount of calories wouldn't make me fat even though I'm a cardio queen and lift heavy.

I used to limit myself to about 1500 calories. At the end of the day I would get so hungry that I'd binge on anything and everything. 2000 cals of healthy food has allowed me to stay full right up until the end of the day without the urges to binge on crap.
 
hi am new here just wondering if i'm doin my bulking phase right i'm 5ft 10 19yr old 13 stone i consume about 4300 cal,660carbs,150gpro and about 123g fat a day does that sound ok?
 
protobe said:
How many here know that eating big gets big gains or how many think so ?? I think so I know when i eat more chicken and beef i notice a bigger appearance and recover faster. Now tons of protein help that too. So my question here is how many cal odo you consume a day and protein too
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You use your weight in lbs as a guideline.. for maintaining have 1g per 1lb of bodyweight.. for growing you could have up2 1.5g - 2g per 1lb of bodyweight. But remember your body can only synthesis 30g-40g of protein per meal.. best eating every two hours. if you start smelling of urine.. your body isnt sysnthesising the protein.
 
JKurz1 said:
and your results are???? CHUBBINESS?????
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LMAO....man they would have to cut a hole in my house and remove my dead body with a forklift if I ate that way. I sure wish I could though! I have that horrible condition where I can gain weight on 900 calories of pure protien a day and thats it! On the flip side I can gain LMM just by thinking about it. Damm endomorphic body I hate thee!!!
 
beefybull said:
There are people that can remain reasonably lean while eating 3500-5000 cals a day, but they are metabolic freaks/hardgainers. If I was truly limited by genetics and was a hardgainer, I'd be eating like that as well out of necessity.
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I use to be like that. Until I turned 25 I could eat 5000 plus calories a day and was about 7% bodyfat. but toook forever to make gains...things are changing now...makin good gains and eating big still but around 4000 cals a day
 
mm this morning had a 50 g/ protein mixed w/ creatin (both ON) also had a pb and apple butter sandwich on whole wheat, then had chicken on whole wheat w/ mayo, and a protein bar, then had a 50 g protein shake, then had 2 steak burgers on whole wheat and a chicken breast w/ some green beans and red skined potatoes, then had a 50g protein shake w/ a whole bunch of peanuts

as for the fat and carbs i have no idea but for the protein im guessing about 300 g 300g 90g so about 3210 and damnt im loosing weight need to up it to about 5000
 
robph said:
i eat as much posiable pizza,pasta everyday weight gainer shake tuna all of that 5000+ cal lots of carbs from carbo force and xxl try those real good!!
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id look so fat if i ate like that.
 
Powerlifting57 said:
mm this morning had a 50 g/ protein mixed w/ creatin (both ON) also had a pb and apple butter sandwich on whole wheat, then had chicken on whole wheat w/ mayo, and a protein bar, then had a 50 g protein shake, then had 2 steak burgers on whole wheat and a chicken breast w/ some green beans and red skined potatoes, then had a 50g protein shake w/ a whole bunch of peanuts

as for the fat and carbs i have no idea but for the protein im guessing about 300 g 300g 90g so about 3210 and damnt im loosing weight need to up it to about 5000
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ummmm..let's see a pic.
 
i eat upward of 5,000 calories a day. i get flammed on here but i could eat anything i wanted and still not get fat.... idk im naturally gifted with a 6 pack ;)
 
Its All Genetics said:
i eat upward of 5,000 calories a day. i get flammed on here but i could eat anything i wanted and still not get fat.... idk im naturally gifted with a 6 pack ;)
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fuck you!!!!!!! j/k ;)
 
protobe said:
How many here know that eating big gets big gains or how many think so ?? I think so I know when i eat more chicken and beef i notice a bigger appearance and recover faster. Now tons of protein help that too. So my question here is how many cal odo you consume a day and protein too
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I was looking at the poll it is not right.
You can get 200- 250g of protein on a 2000 cal diet. Believe me, alot of people replace food with shakes on here in an attempt to reduce calories and out of ignorance
 
beefybull said:
There are people that can remain reasonably lean while eating 3500-5000 cals a day, but they are metabolic freaks/hardgainers. If I was truly limited by genetics and was a hardgainer, I'd be eating like that as well out of necessity.
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Does glutamine pepties or albuterol slow your muscle loss?
methoxy is also a cortisol blocker...
 
wayneboard1 said:
LMAO....man they would have to cut a hole in my house and remove my dead body with a forklift if I ate that way. I sure wish I could though! I have that horrible condition where I can gain weight on 900 calories of pure protien a day and thats it! On the flip side I can gain LMM just by thinking about it. Damm endomorphic body I hate thee!!!
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lol
 
glad I can post again...

Anyway I totally believe the folks that say they eat 5k calories and don't gain weight. This is what a hard gainer is all about. But I don't believe eating more food is the solution

1. block cortisol as best as you can
2. take anti-catabolic sups
3. slow your activities down


If your working in a warehouse w/100 degree weather and working out 5,6,7 times a week then will contribute to you being a hard gainer. Also drinking more fluids may help
 
jkurz1 I like your reasoning. I personally am eating real clean for two years straight now and im not having issues.

5:00am Breakfast:7 whites 1 yoke scrambled with PAM, small bowl oatmeal with mushed banana cinamon splenda, 1 apple, 1 large dollup of lowfat cottage cheese, large glass of ice green tea or water, supplements. ~TRAINING 6:30am~ 2hrs 30 min. Recovery Shake (SAN myodrive) 9:30am One or two big tumblers H20 12:00pm Lunch Large helping of tuna salad with smart beat and dijon on a bed of butter lettus, 1 hard boild egg cold, dolup lowfatt cottage cheese. Green Tea cold. supplements and more H20. 4:0mpm Shake (IDS Smart Gainer) 6:30pm Dinner Chicken Breast or Sirloin on the BBQ, 1 large Sweet potatoe, large salad with fresh tomatoe usually limestone or butter lettus, fat free dressings, snap feas cold, mineral water, or bottled H20 like before. 8:00pm supplements and a 1g fat- sugar free clondyke bar (sanity snack) 9:30 myodrive or smart gainer shake. 10pm ZMA, GABA, Estro Supress sleep then all over again. Mon-Sat
 
I make a huge double turkey burger that is about 90g of protein and I eat 2 of them a day. Then I eat normal pretty much.
 
i eat generally between 150-200 grams of protein a day but i dun count the calories.. find it too hard to do so
 
With just my weight gainer shake alone I get 2000+calories and 150 grams of protein. I weigh 175 right now from 130 several months ago.
 
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