E2 out control on test e - lost

[logik_brooklyn]

Guys I hate to sound like an uninformed idiot, but this isn't my first cycle, however this is the first time this has happened to me.

I'm on 600mg/week test e mon-thurs dose, currently on week 6. I'm 5'11 225 started cycle at about 214, with roughly 16% b/f.

3 weeks ago, I doubled up my ldex dose for 4 days straight and legit crashed my e2 to almost nothing, felt like shit, stayed off 4 more days, then started back at .25 and felt ok. However, since then my e2 has been high ever since, and no matter what I do, it's staying high. I'm bloated, low sex drive, nip pain, you name it.

I'm using the same bottle of ldex that literally crashed my levels, but it's diwn to the bottom, I'm wondering if it could possibly be "less potent" now that I'm at the end of it. Whatever it is, my e2 is crazy high, and there's nothing that's working. I have another bottle of ldex on the way...but other than that I'm lost.

Unfortunately I cannot do bloods right now, but trust me, I know myself, I know my body, it's not my first cycle...it's absolutely sky high.

 

[25homes]

Hey aromasin or letro from ag guys

 

[logik_brooklyn]

I have their ldex on the way...aromasin never worked well for me, though I never tried agguys, I used a company who's ldex also did not work well.

 

[MaxxReps]

It will take time for any AI to bring your E down as it only affects the further aromatization of testosterone - it does nothing to the E already existing in your body. I know everyone is different but I needed .5mg ED on a 500mg cycle to feel good.

And I know the general consensus around here is that aromasin is better than arimidex but personally I felt better on arimidex and will be going back to it when I'm out of aromasin.

 

[Zyglamail]

3 weeks ago, I doubled up my ldex dose for 4 days straight and legit crashed my e2 to almost nothing, felt like shit, stayed off 4 more days, then started back at .25 and felt ok. However, since then my e2 has been high ever since, and no matter what I do, it's staying high. I'm bloated, low sex drive, nip pain, you name it.

What was your original starting AI dose that you doubled?

This is why its important to get blood work and slowly adjust AI. Too many people dont take proper ai dose to start with, get sides and then have a knee jerk overreaction and cause problems the other way. Thats not how to properly do things because it generally doenst solve the problem AND makes it difficult to make an educated estimate of where you should be.

 

[logik_brooklyn]

It will take time for any AI to bring your E down as it only affects the further aromatization of testosterone - it does nothing to the E already existing in your body. I know everyone is different but I needed .5mg ED on a 500mg cycle to feel good.

And I know the general consensus around here is that aromasin is better than arimidex but personally I felt better on arimidex and will be going back to it when I'm out of aromasin.

I've heard this before. Being the way I crashed I don't think I had built up e.

However IF that is the case, what do I do to lower built up e?

 

[Zyglamail]

I've heard this before. Being the way I crashed I don't think I had built up e.

However IF that is the case, what do I do to lower built up e?

You can use DIM or calcium D glucarate to help metabolizing it but aside from that all you can do is let the body deal with it. This is why proper planning and execution are important. Haphazardly doubly or cutting AI's doses just wreaks havoc and doesnt give you a clear picture of whats going on.

 

[logik_brooklyn]

What was your original starting AI dose that you doubled?

This is why its important to get blood work and slowly adjust AI. Too many people dont take proper ai dose to start with, get sides and then have a knee jerk overreaction and cause problems the other way. Thats not how to properly do things because it generally doenst solve the problem AND makes it difficult to make an educated estimate of where you should be.

I went from .5 e/d to 1 e/d for 4 days. I know even .5 is generally high, but historically it's the only dose to ever work for me.

You can use DIM or calcium D glucarate to help metabolizing it but aside from that all you can do is let the body deal with it. This is why proper planning and execution are important. Haphazardly doubly or cutting AI's doses just wreaks havoc and doesnt give you a clear picture of whats going on.

Like I said, it's far from my first cycle so I had a pretty good plan going...I really don't know how or why I reacted this way, as I never have in the past.

 

[Zyglamail]

I went from .5 e/d to 1 e/d for 4 days. I know even .5 is generally high, but historically it's the only dose to ever work for me.

What do you mean the only dose to work for you? This isnt a works or doesnt work scenario.

If .5mg ed works for you, where are you E levels at when on 600mg test and .5mg adex ED? Knowing that is the key to properly adjusting AI dose.

Anything short of having historical lab work is just mental masturbation as is this post since all anyone can do is guess.

 

[logik_brooklyn]

What do you mean the only dose to work for you? This isnt a works or doesnt work scenario.

If .5mg ed works for you, where are you E levels at when on 600mg test and .5mg adex ED? Knowing that is the key to properly adjusting AI dose.

Anything short of having historical lab work is just mental masturbation as is this post since all anyone can do is guess.

When I say historically worked, I mean .5 e/d has always kept my e levels in range on blood work ( don't remember ecact numbers but I could find them). That's why I went ahead and went with my usual .5 as it's held true for a solid 6 cycles now.

Believe me I know not having access to bloods right now is horrific, however knowing my body, it's high...very high,