E or not anti E that is the ???

[jatca69]

Ok what is the deal is proviron an anti e or not? I keep hearing both answers...yes it is...no it isn't. If it is, why? If it isn't, why not? Some solid evidence would be nice to hear though personal experience is always appreciated.

 

[jatca69]

cmon here' I know there is an on going argument...so let's hear it. What do you guys think is proviron an anti e or not?

 

[jatca69]

Really!?!?! Hmmm that's interesting...thanks for the input guys.

 

[DrJMW]

Proviron is first-generation anti-e. So is Teslac. So is Nolvadex. Since we have Nolvadex, Clomid, evista, arimidex, femara, and aromasin, we can pick and choose the appropriate anti-e for the situation and the individual. I prefer to use aromatase inhibitors DURING an aromatizing AAS cycle. These are arimidex, femara, and aromasin. The choice is based on availability, the individual's tendancy to develop estrogenic sides, and the dosing/frequency/type of aromatizing AAS used. If you do not know your response to aromatizing AAS, then choose one of the aromatase inhibitors and monitor your situation. You may need to change meds or lower AAS doses. I have found that those with BF% over 15 tend to aromatize more. The reason: the largest concentration the aromatase enzyme is found in adipose tissue.

 

[jatca69]

drjmw comes to the rescue again...thanks doc. Okay so say I'm running 50 mg a day of proviron on 100mg eod of prop, 100mg eod EQ and 25mg ed anavar (body fat under 15%) and ocassionaly my nipples get a little tender...should I increase my proviron or add nolvadex for a few days till the tenderness goes away? Thanks for your help.

 

[DrJMW]

drjmw comes to the rescue again...thanks doc. Okay so say I'm running 50 mg a day of proviron on 100mg eod of prop, 100mg eod EQ and 25mg ed anavar (body fat under 15%) and ocassionaly my nipples get a little tender...should I increase my proviron or add nolvadex for a few days till the tenderness goes away? Thanks for your help.

With this cycle and the pre-gyno, I wouldn't use Proviron at all. I would recommend either aromasin, femara, or arimidex. I have a cleint who is very sensitive to estrogen sides. He uses low-dose testos and arimidex. He has used aromasin and femara without any improvement. Nolvadex and clomid never helped either. He now keeps DHT gel around and applies it whenever he feels the "pre-gyno" symptoms. It works for him. This is an extreme case, but you get the idea. You need to make the adjustment. First step here: change the anti-estrogen. If that doesn't work, then get DHT gel.

 

[jatca69]

Ok now i'm confused...you say that proviron is first generation anti e (which I don't understand) and that I have a choice but then you tell me to drop the proviron. I've got nolva on the way but you think I should save it for my pct and get some aromasin,femara or arimidex for now? Wow I am really confused...I'm not very smart but I can lift heavy things Please lay it out for me doc. What is dht gel, when do I start the nolva, do I completly drop the proviron, and when does the hcg come into the picture since I havent been using it during cycle. I started this cycle without any test and only added in the prop to finish the cycle. I'm not even sure it is gyno my nips are just a little sensitive (mostly at night) but no puffiness or lumps. Ive made great gains with this cycle of EQ,winstrol,anavar, and prop...don't wanna lose my gains I know I'm asking alot but could you help me out...not that you care but, karma to you for all your help.