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Dylan Gemelli's Cuttin Like a Razor Blade Spring and Summer Epic...

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Here is the new cycle that has begun for spring and summer... This is an ultimate cutting stack... I am looking forward to this one like never before... This is the king of cutting and adding muscle...



1-6 winstrol 70 mg day
1-6 n2guard
3-18 test prop 75 mg eod
3-18 mast e 600 mg week
3-18 primo 700 mg week
3-18 eq 500 mg week
7-14 hcgenerate
15-18 hcg 500 ius week
19-20 hcg 1000 ius week
15-20 winstrol 70 mg day
15-20 n2guard
 
Because he most probably gets a decent summer and a chance to take off his top , unlike England where we have not had sunshine for over a year now! Besides wouldn't you want to look proper ripped for the summer too!
 
Damn dude. That's a lot of gear. Interested in your thoughts on EQ. Im planning on running it this winter. The hunger factor could be bad if you are trying to keep from overeating.

Exactly what I'm paying VERY close attention to on my cycle. Will be using Keto during the cycle in an attempt to help stem that (found it helped control hunger when I ran it during my PCT last time around).

Will be interesting to be running my EQ cycle alongside Dylan, though the remainder of his cycle makes mine seem like child's play by comparison.
 
Im speechless.. You really need that much steroid to look good for summer? over 2g of gear a week? Really? Where is the hard work and dedication? This is ridiculous, looks like everyone use gear to make up for lack of hard work in the gym, not saying you dont work hard, but i cant see anyone running this much juice just to look good for summer, that cycle is for some npc top level bodybuilder.
Please keep in mind, im not trying to come off as an asshole just being honest, there is absolutely no reason why you need that much gear to look good..
 
Im speechless.. You really need that much steroid to look good for summer? over 2g of gear a week? Really? Where is the hard work and dedication? This is ridiculous, looks like everyone use gear to make up for lack of hard work in the gym, not saying you dont work hard, but i cant see anyone running this much juice just to look good for summer, that cycle is for some npc top level bodybuilder.
Please keep in mind, im not trying to come off as an asshole just being honest, there is absolutely no reason why you need that much gear to look good..

Lmao... I dont need shit to ever look good... Wheres the hard work? In the last two years do you know how many days in the gym ive missed?? Two... One of those was due to food poisoning... So watch your mouth before you ever post in my fucking threads bro...
 
Just a question dylan, why not run the test two more weeks while your long esters die off? Keeping you peaking, up untill PCT
 
Im speechless.. You really need that much steroid to look good for summer? over 2g of gear a week? Really? Where is the hard work and dedication? This is ridiculous, looks like everyone use gear to make up for lack of hard work in the gym, not saying you dont work hard, but i cant see anyone running this much juice just to look good for summer, that cycle is for some npc top level bodybuilder.
Please keep in mind, im not trying to come off as an asshole just being honest, there is absolutely no reason why you need that much gear to look good..

Lol@not coming across as an ass...
 
He is right on one thing. 2g/week is ridiculous unless you're a national level bb'er.
 
Hey Dylan - serious cycle, best of luck to you. Lots of pinning that's for sure!
It will be interesting to see what this cycle does to your body, since by the last pics ive seen of you, you clearly don't have much(anything) left to cut. Looking forward to the progress pics and posts. Be safe bro
 
Here is some food for thought Originally posted by Evan Centopani over at MD.............Let's put it this way, in my opinion, if you can't turn pro or at least make it to the TOP (top 3 or better) of the national level (USAs or Nationals) by using 6 IU or less of GH, 1000mg or less of test and less than a total of 3g of total gear (that's a LOT of shit/I'm being generous) then you should rethink things. And I don't think insulin should even be a THOUGHT until you are a pro if ever at all. My .02 for what it's worth.[/


I know this isnt your first cycle but DAYUM dylan. I just hope people watching your thread realize that this is a VERY ADVANCED cycle.

Best of luck. Stay as healthy as possible
 
See, almost everyone agrees with me, im not saying you dont work hard, but you went overboard with the dosage and you're adding wayy too many compounds, and good for you for not missing any workouts, i myself have not missed 1 workout in 3 years, and the days that i missed the gym was close, not to mention did not miss one single meal in 1 whole year..
Anyway, honestly i was not trying to be an ass, for someone looking to get lean for summer the cycle is plain ridiculous, just my fuking honest opinion no one needs 2g of gear to "look good", in 12 weeks i can completely transform my physique with 500mg of test..
 
It's all relative. Dylan is a seasoned user with years of history and experience. This isn't his first nor is it his fifth cycle. I am sure knowing what I do about Dylan it fits with his knowledge base and experience.
 
I don't think 2g is that big of a deal.


ummm. ok......so you speak from experience????

2 grams is a shit load of gear dude. Doesnt matter if you THINK its alot or not. It IS ALOT.

FACT. People with bad genetics or poor nutrition and training are usually the ones saying that 2 grams isnt alot.
 
And yes I know....Dylan has done some cycles. Im not trying to talk bad about HIS choices.

I just KNOW from experience on this board that people with ZERO experience will see his log and think that this is whats needed to get a good physique or to get cut.

Which in that case, it is entirely false.

Like I said, this is a VETERAN CYCLE. Which I would probably consider DG a "veteran." At least my own standards for users. But at the same time I expect ANYONE who is on 2+ grams of gear to be WELL OVER 200 pounds and shredded.

I would guess DG is sub 200. He looks good dont get me wrong. But 2+ grams of gear I expect some decent mass not just cuts.
 
His 2 grams include Mast and Primo, mild mild steroids. Trust me, I have a lot of experience with both..they are very very mile on side effects...
 
ummm. ok......so you speak from experience????

2 grams is a shit load of gear dude. Doesnt matter if you THINK its alot or not. It IS ALOT.

FACT. People with bad genetics or poor nutrition and training are usually the ones saying that 2 grams isnt alot.

Yes I do have experience with 2+ grams of all of these injectables.
It was a great cycle.
However, the first time I ever did 2+ grams I could only last about 6 weeks.
At my age I sometimes forget what it's like to be a 20 yo.
Do my genetics look bad?
My diet is pretty good also. But you may criticize me all you want this is an open forum. But lets please all be respectful with our criticism.
 
His 2 grams include Mast and Primo, mild mild steroids. Trust me, I have a lot of experience with both..they are very very mile on side effects...

ya mild 4 sure. but still alot of exogenous androgens when paired with test and eq. The primo should help produce some quality gains tho.

I just dont want it to seem like we are down playing 2 grams of gear or this isnt an advanced cycle.

People try to emulate what they see online, especially the mods like youself. Just dont want it to seem norm for a 2 gram cut for your AVERAGE or novice gear uzr.
 
Yes I do have experience with 2+ grams of all of these injectables.
It was a great cycle.
However, the first time I ever did 2+ grams I could only last about 6 weeks.
At my age I sometimes forget what it's like to be a 20 yo.
Do my genetics look bad?
My diet is pretty good also. But you may criticize me all you want this is an open forum. But lets please all be respectful with our criticism.

No man your genetics dont look bad. Not trying to criticize either. I just rather push the mind-set as 2 grams is alot. IF 2 grams isnt alot.....what is alot?

I just tend to think this game is a marathon not a race. But im not trying to go pro either.

And not tryin to hi=jack thread, but I guess it is midnight. haha

you said you could only last about 6 weeks the first time you ran 2+ grams??? Why could you only last that long? what exactly do you mean? Kinda makes me think you were drinking too much juice?
 
ya mild 4 sure. but still alot of exogenous androgens when paired with test and eq. The primo should help produce some quality gains tho.

I just dont want it to seem like we are down playing 2 grams of gear or this isnt an advanced cycle.

People try to emulate what they see online, especially the mods like youself. Just dont want it to seem norm for a 2 gram cut for your AVERAGE or novice gear uzr.

The main thing your forgetting is Dylan isn't a novice or average user he has an advanced level of knowledge. He knows what he's doing and has years of experience to justify his decisions. He also not suggesting that anyone emulate what he does. He just sharing his experience with others so they can learn. If someone is dumb enough to run his cycle when they aren't qualified to do so, then that's their dumbass fault. The good thing about juice is if its too much, the sides will deter you pretty quickly and won't cause you any serious harm. Like I said Dylan knows what he's doing and how to run these drugs so I don't see what the big deal is. If anything I'd still consider this a pretty conservative cycle.
 
Here is some food for thought Originally posted by Evan Centopani over at MD.............Let's put it this way, in my opinion, if you can't turn pro or at least make it to the TOP (top 3 or better) of the national level (USAs or Nationals) by using 6 IU or less of GH, 1000mg or less of test and less than a total of 3g of total gear (that's a LOT of shit/I'm being generous) then you should rethink things. And I don't think insulin should even be a THOUGHT until you are a pro if ever at all. My .02 for what it's worth.[/


I know this isnt your first cycle but DAYUM dylan. I just hope people watching your thread realize that this is a VERY ADVANCED cycle.

Best of luck. Stay as healthy as possible

6 iu's of gh? that certainly depends on the quality of the gh.. with some of the garbage blue tops going around out there 6ius is barely an anti aging dosage .
 
Out of curiosity, why TestP instead of TeatE with a cycle that long.

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because he would rather the agony of pin cushioning himself over the water/bloat factor.dylan is sick, but i like it :biggrin:

Good luck dylan.. i wanna see how much size you gain off the primo and test p ..you already ripped to shreads, putting on some muscle will look great on you
 
Whoahh!!! We've stirred up a bit of a hornets nest here guys:).

My two-penneth worth...

2 grammes is a lot of juice a week for most recreational users or amateurs, but 2 grammes of Masteron, Primo, and Equipoise, is a lot different to the same amount of Testosterone Enanthate, Trenbalone, and Anadrol.
Dylan has run similar cycles before and with great success, and he is - when all's said and done - an advanced user and does his research. If he experiences any sides he'll take care of them and even cease the cycle if needs be.

My only concern for Dylan isn't about his knowedge or ability, it's more about what he doesn't know: the unexpected. Dylan has an enviably low body-fat and while it looks awesome and must feel great, I worry that maintaining such a low bodyfat percentage for so long could be deterimental in the long run. I know he will be aware of the risks and I'm sure he's done his homework and all. I wish him every success in this cycle and others, and I'm hopeful and sure he knows where to draw the line.

Just to caveat and reiterate what's already been said: Newbies should be aware that this is an advanced cycle. Dylan's done many, many cycles, over several years. His physique has been developed over a long period of time with a good, stringent diet, and lots of hard and regular training. Results of any kind do not come over night and no novices should try to emulate what Dylan or other lifters do by copying their cycles. The great majority of mass and fatloss Dylan has, has come about by good mix of training, diet, dedication and supplements and his success isn't attributable simply to AAS.

Good luck Dylan and thanks for sharing your experience with us.

Craig
 
It's all relative. Dylan is a seasoned user with years of history and experience. This isn't his first nor is it his fifth cycle. I am sure knowing what I do about Dylan it fits with his knowledge base and experience.

I have been in the gym for 35 years. I have T-shirts older than most people in this thread. I have been over 1.5 g maybe twice in my entire life. I almost stopped my last cycle early because I gained 10lbs when the goal was really to get stronger, not bigger. I ate cleaner but not more than usual. Here it is.

250 mg test enanthate
200 mg masteron enanthate
twice a week
Bunch of vitamins and crap.

That's it..and that was probably cycle #30 something.

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Wow this thread I full of drama. Best of luck Dylan, kill that shit bro!!

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I don't think there is any drama just a bunch of very knowledgable guys making excellent points.
 
And yes I know....Dylan has done some cycles. Im not trying to talk bad about HIS choices.

I just KNOW from experience on this board that people with ZERO experience will see his log and think that this is whats needed to get a good physique or to get cut.

Which in that case, it is entirely false.

Like I said, this is a VETERAN CYCLE. Which I would probably consider DG a "veteran." At least my own standards for users. But at the same time I expect ANYONE who is on 2+ grams of gear to be WELL OVER 200 pounds and shredded.

I would guess DG is sub 200. He looks good dont get me wrong. But 2+ grams of gear I expect some decent mass not just cuts.

Very good points and I agree with you!
 
Inb4 Dylan kills someone :)

Interested in the results of this cycle. Very cool!
 
I appreciate all of the feedback from everyone here and see all the points that have been made... I may drop the eq from this one just because it may not be necessary... I like everything else in the cycle and may save the eq for a later one... I am really trying to make primo shine here... My test dose is barely above trt level because I really want to see just how much I can make primo and masteron shine and to really see how great of a combo they are for someone with my type of goals... I am not after a lot of size but definitely some that is extremely clean... I think those two can provide that for me but I do think that some test is necessary for the cycle as well... I will keep the primo between 600-700 and the mast between 500-600... the test will stay at around 300 or less... I think that will be plenty to achieve some excellent results... My goals are always a bit different than most and I want to stay on that track... There is no need to go overboard with it either...

I would like to make one point to everyone here... If you follow my posts, which many of you do, you know that I am probably one of the most conservative people on here when it comes to what I recommend for others to run... I am normally very conservative as well and this is one of my more aggressive cycles... I always feel like less can be more and that's what I am trying to show with my test dosage... I am so intrigued with combinations that I may have gotten a bit ahead of myself and will slow this one down... I am an extremist and a perfectionist and that can be good and bad... That is one of the reasons I post for feedback, because no matter what you know or what you experience, it is ALWAYS helpful to have others opinions and then reevaluate... One thing I can always say is that you can NEVER LEARN ENOUGH... You can always learn more and you should always be looking for more knowledge and information... I am at constant study and that is what has helped me get to the point I have but things are constantly changing and so it is imperative to always be ready to learn more... Thank you for all the support and feedback...
 
I appreciate all of the feedback from everyone here and see all the points that have been made... I may drop the eq from this one just because it may not be necessary... I like everything else in the cycle and may save the eq for a later one... I am really trying to make primo shine here... My test dose is barely above trt level because I really want to see just how much I can make primo and masteron shine and to really see how great of a combo they are for someone with my type of goals... I am not after a lot of size but definitely some that is extremely clean... I think those two can provide that for me but I do think that some test is necessary for the cycle as well... I will keep the primo between 600-700 and the mast between 500-600... the test will stay at around 300 or less... I think that will be plenty to achieve some excellent results... My goals are always a bit different than most and I want to stay on that track... There is no need to go overboard with it either...

I would like to make one point to everyone here... If you follow my posts, which many of you do, you know that I am probably one of the most conservative people on here when it comes to what I recommend for others to run... I am normally very conservative as well and this is one of my more aggressive cycles... I always feel like less can be more and that's what I am trying to show with my test dosage... I am so intrigued with combinations that I may have gotten a bit ahead of myself and will slow this one down... I am an extremist and a perfectionist and that can be good and bad... That is one of the reasons I post for feedback, because no matter what you know or what you experience, it is ALWAYS helpful to have others opinions and then reevaluate... One thing I can always say is that you can NEVER LEARN ENOUGH... You can always learn more and you should always be looking for more knowledge and information... I am at constant study and that is what has helped me get to the point I have but things are constantly changing and so it is imperative to always be ready to learn more... Thank you for all the support and feedback...

Truly classy response bro - best of luck to you on this run!
 
My favorite stack includes Test E/Mast E/Primo E all about 750mg/week.

I dont think you'll gain a whole lot by having that EQ in there. At doses higher than 400mg/week it could actually hurt your cardio endurance. I remember running it at super high doses and getting winded walking up the stairs.

:evil:
Why dont you replace that second winny run with some halotestin and see how far you really push limits of shreds.
 
I appreciate all of the feedback from everyone here and see all the points that have been made... I may drop the eq from this one just because it may not be necessary... I like everything else in the cycle and may save the eq for a later one... I am really trying to make primo shine here... My test dose is barely above trt level because I really want to see just how much I can make primo and masteron shine and to really see how great of a combo they are for someone with my type of goals... I am not after a lot of size but definitely some that is extremely clean... I think those two can provide that for me but I do think that some test is necessary for the cycle as well... I will keep the primo between 600-700 and the mast between 500-600... the test will stay at around 300 or less... I think that will be plenty to achieve some excellent results... My goals are always a bit different than most and I want to stay on that track... There is no need to go overboard with it either...

I would like to make one point to everyone here... If you follow my posts, which many of you do, you know that I am probably one of the most conservative people on here when it comes to what I recommend for others to run... I am normally very conservative as well and this is one of my more aggressive cycles... I always feel like less can be more and that's what I am trying to show with my test dosage... I am so intrigued with combinations that I may have gotten a bit ahead of myself and will slow this one down... I am an extremist and a perfectionist and that can be good and bad... That is one of the reasons I post for feedback, because no matter what you know or what you experience, it is ALWAYS helpful to have others opinions and then reevaluate... One thing I can always say is that you can NEVER LEARN ENOUGH... You can always learn more and you should always be looking for more knowledge and information... I am at constant study and that is what has helped me get to the point I have but things are constantly changing and so it is imperative to always be ready to learn more... Thank you for all the support and feedback...


Well said bro.....well said, and very respectable.
 
Lmao... So watch your mouth before you ever post in my fucking threads bro...
:mad:

Whoa Dyl, looks like the test is kicking in early. :rolleyes: Just kidding man, you are one of the smartest dudes here and offer us a lot of help. At the end of this thread you offer a great response that YOU NEVER STOP LEARNING - well said, and class act!
 
Why are you thanking him for dropping the EQ?
 
Because I want to see him run it separately. It's one of those iffy aas which some respond well to some not. I personally think its just a waste. I'd like to see him make something of it especially with his cardio.

Dylan can you please answer me this:

Why, with your diet and training, could you not attain your goals with an 8 week test prop 500mg? Maybe add winny in if you really want but you are already so low bf. Especially now taking gh - I'm really curious as to why a simple 8 week test cycle wouldn't give you the results you want? I ask this based on your size and your diet and training. I could understand if you were over 220 or 230. I'm not knocking you, or your cycle, so hopefully my question doesn't come off as such.

edit: I assume you are taking gh as I saw a thread a while back saying you were going to start. But I'm still genuinely intrigued regardless of the gh use.
 
Hey everyone... I know it has been a long time since I posted an update on my cycle as well as progress pics... I am in the process of buying a home as well as running my own business and trying to open multiple more, all the while trying to get my fiance here from another state and prepare to get married, etc... I am working 10-12 hour days, as well as handling all of this and still being in the gym 3 hours a day... I am working out harder than ever and this cycle has me feeling so great... I have never felt or looked this good... I have been under a lot of stress with everything but the gym, as always, has been my place of focus... My prayers and the relief I get at the gym have guided me to accomplishing more than I ever have and it is just driving me to achieve more each day... I look at everyday as a chance to make more progress, more money and be more of a success... There is an opportunity everyday for progress and it should be utilized...

The cycle is a very big cycle, and not something I recommend to anyone who is not an experienced user... Here is the layout...

1-16 test prop 75 mg eod
1-16 mast e 500-600 mg week
1-16 primo 800 mg week
1-16 eq 500 mg week
1-16 aromasin 12.5 mg ed
1-8 winstrol 70 mg day

I am now getting ready to start hcgenerate es and then will start hcg up until pct... I am not sure if I am going to run an oral on the back of the cycle yet...

I can tell you this... Primo is the best aas that I have ever used... For me, this is the perfect thing to be on... I will definitely say that the injections can be uncomfortable at times... Its more the lingering ache in the quad that comes the next day but it is manageable and has not effected me with cardio in any way... It is more sore than anything but it is not too bad... The EQ is really starting to kick in now and I am seeing veins I did not know existed... I am right about the point in my cycle when it starts to shine... The winstrol was great... Definitely my favorite oral... Mast is always one of my favorites and the test prop is very smooth and very strong... I am very happy with how this cycle is going and it has had an effect on me that over exceeded my expectations... I am going to continue to go as hard as possible and make more progress each day... Here are some updated pics...



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i don't really intend to offend, i just want to say that i find it odd, that you think it's an awful idea to take any more than 25 mg/day of ostarine, but then you run this kind of cycle which is far more severe than ostarine

just as an fyi i've run 50 mg/day ostarine (with AI's) and on another cycle i've run 5 mg/day lgd-4033 stacked with 50 mg/day ostarine (with AI's) and i've had astonishing results with little to no side effects

for a future cycle i'm considering a 5-15 mg lgd-4033 solo cycle or 100 mg ostarine solo

sorry to go off topic, i just found it to be a contrast between what you preach and what you do

good luck to your cycle and to your goals though, you obviously have a very ripped physique
 
i don't really intend to offend, i just want to say that i find it odd, that you think it's an awful idea to take any more than 25 mg/day of ostarine, but then you run this kind of cycle which is far more severe than ostarine

just as an fyi i've run 50 mg/day ostarine (with AI's) and on another cycle i've run 5 mg/day lgd-4033 stacked with 50 mg/day ostarine (with AI's) and i've had astonishing results with little to no side effects

for a future cycle i'm considering a 5-15 mg lgd-4033 solo cycle or 100 mg ostarine solo

sorry to go off topic, i just found it to be a contrast between what you preach and what you do

good luck to your cycle and to your goals though, you obviously have a very ripped physique

He says that because that is the proven most efficiently effective dose and can get suppressive even more so if you go over that especially if taken for an extended period of time. Lots of people will do 1000 mg testosterone also but that doesn't mean that it helps any more than 500 or 600mg. I don't think Dylan has ever said that you'll die if you take over 25 mg it's just the smartest dose to go with.
 
He says that because that is the proven most efficiently effective dose and can get suppressive even more so if you go over that especially if taken for an extended period of time. Lots of people will do 1000 mg testosterone also but that doesn't mean that it helps any more than 500 or 600mg. I don't think Dylan has ever said that you'll die if you take over 25 mg it's just the smartest dose to go with.

Well said bro
 
i don't really intend to offend, i just want to say that i find it odd, that you think it's an awful idea to take any more than 25 mg/day of ostarine, but then you run this kind of cycle which is far more severe than ostarine

just as an fyi i've run 50 mg/day ostarine (with AI's) and on another cycle i've run 5 mg/day lgd-4033 stacked with 50 mg/day ostarine (with AI's) and i've had astonishing results with little to no side effects

for a future cycle i'm considering a 5-15 mg lgd-4033 solo cycle or 100 mg ostarine solo

sorry to go off topic, i just found it to be a contrast between what you preach and what you do

good luck to your cycle and to your goals though, you obviously have a very ripped physique

Bro you need to understand what your talking about before you come at me with your remarks... You make yourself look quite foolish... Have you put the amounts of study into this that i have?? Are you certified in all the areas i am?? Do you hold a masters degree?? Do you do this for a living?? I can answer yes to all these and some...

Most importantly... Do you help the amounts of people i do on a daily fucking basis???? Ask around bro... I think my name is going to consistently come up and yours wont once... I could care less whether you approve my cycle or not... I said it was a big cycle from the start... I always recommend conservative to everyone and usually run them like that myself... People come to me for help and many times in panic and i calm them and hp them... People like you are the ones that make me question why i do that but then i think of all the people who need me and not to let someone like you ruin it for them...
 
i don't really intend to offend, i just want to say that i find it odd, that you think it's an awful idea to take any more than 25 mg/day of ostarine, but then you run this kind of cycle which is far more severe than ostarine

just as an fyi i've run 50 mg/day ostarine (with AI's) and on another cycle i've run 5 mg/day lgd-4033 stacked with 50 mg/day ostarine (with AI's) and i've had astonishing results with little to no side effects

for a future cycle i'm considering a 5-15 mg lgd-4033 solo cycle or 100 mg ostarine solo

sorry to go off topic, i just found it to be a contrast between what you preach and what you do

good luck to your cycle and to your goals though, you obviously have a very ripped physique

Dylan is a good bro dude. Run your stuff your way. We will keep FOLLOWING our bro Dylans advice!
 
i don't really intend to offend, i just want to say that i find it odd, that you think it's an awful idea to take any more than 25 mg/day of ostarine, but then you run this kind of cycle which is far more severe than ostarine

just as an fyi i've run 50 mg/day ostarine (with AI's) and on another cycle i've run 5 mg/day lgd-4033 stacked with 50 mg/day ostarine (with AI's) and i've had astonishing results with little to no side effects

for a future cycle i'm considering a 5-15 mg lgd-4033 solo cycle or 100 mg ostarine solo

sorry to go off topic, i just found it to be a contrast between what you preach and what you do

good luck to your cycle and to your goals though, you obviously have a very ripped physique

By the way... Have fun wasting a shit load of money on your next sarms cycle lol
 
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