thanx for the info, i'm in the process of getting clomid and anavar from a source in Europe. I think i'm prone to mpb, i've been on proscar for more than a yr, i cut them ,a lot cheaper that way.and yes this would be my first cycle, i'm would like to gain 15lbs, I have thin legs, so i'm going to squat my ass off, i think I can gain 7-8 lbs just from my legs. thanks guys for your time, peace