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Duke evidence update

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April 19, 2006 — On Monday, they were indicted for allegedly raping and kidnapping a 27-year-old woman at an off-campus party. On Tuesday, they turned themselves in and were released from custody after posting a $400,000 bond. For Duke University sophomore lacrosse players Collin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann, a long legal battle has just begun.


Over the last few days, sources close to the defense have given ABC News an exclusive look at the evidence behind one player's alleged alibi — evidence that includes electronic records, photographs and witness statements. If that material is authentic, it could prove that it was practically impossible for him to rape, kidnap or assault the alleged victim.


Seligmann's argument is simple: He is innocent and he has an alibi. He attended the party that night, but documents, photos and witness testimony show that he wasn't there long enough or at the right time to attack the alleged victim.


Around midnight the night of March 13, Seligmann was already at the party when two women hired from a local escort agency arrived to dance for the boys — $400 each for a two-hour performance. A series of time-stamped photographs viewed by ABC News show the girls dancing at midnight and at 12:02 a.m.


By 12:24 a.m., a receipt reviewed by ABC indicates that Seligmann's ATM card was used at a nearby Wachovia bank. In a written statement to the defense also reviewed by ABC, a cabdriver confirms picking up Seligmann and a friend a block and a half from the party, and driving them to the bank.


What did Seligmann do after leaving the bank? The taxi driver remembers taking him to a drive-thru fast-food restaurant and then dropping him off at his dorm. Duke University records show that Seligmann's card was used to gain entry at 12:46 a.m.



In addition to bolstering Seligmann's alibi, the taxi driver's written testimony provided a rare glimpse of color in an otherwise darkened night.


"I remember those two guys starting enjoying their food inside my car, but I'm glad I end up with a nice tip and fare $25," the taxi driver said in his testimony.

ABC News traced the steps of Seligmann's story, timing how long it took to get from place to place. In repeated trials, the drive between the Wachovia branch and the corner where the cab picked him up took approximately five minutes. This suggests that Seligmann must have left the house by around 12:19 a.m.






So, Seligmann's alibi suggests, he and the alleged victim were in the house together for less than 20 minutes. According to defense sources, based on the alleged victim's affidavit, all of the following would have transpired within that time period: She and her dance partner performed for several minutes, left after feeling threatened by the boys' growing "excited and aggressive," returned after being persuaded by team members to dance some more, and then she was forced into a bathroom, beaten and raped.






Within those same minutes, phone bill records reviewed by ABC show that the defendant's cell phone made at least two outgoing calls.






Seligmann and his co-defendant were presumably among the players identified by the alleged victim last Thursday. According to defense attorneys, the prosecution said the woman picked out two of her alleged attackers with 100 percent certainty and one other attacker with 90 percent certainty while examining pictures. But did Seligmann have the time, much less the will, to commit a violent, sexual crime?






Though he was indicted, Seligmann is presumed innocent until a jury says otherwise. No one knows what evidence District Attorney Mike Nifong will bring as he looks to convict Seligmann and Finnerty. If that conviction occurs, the two young men face mandatory jail time. Whether the evidence above will clear their names — in either a court of law or in the court of public opinion — will become clear in the weeks and months to come.
 
Eyewitness News and the ABC News law-and-justice unit are getting a chance to examine time-stamped photos taken inside the home on the night of the controversial Duke lacrosse party.
The photos are believed to be authentic and taken by one of the students at the March 13 party. The time stamps on the photos appear to be accurate. Pictures of a wristwatch magnified for clarity correspond with the time on the photos. The players are sitting on three couches in a semicircle with the dancers in the middle.
11:02 p.m.: The first picture shows at least 10 students hanging out in a living room, apparently waiting for the dancers to arrive. Most of the students appear to be drinking. By the number of people in this photo, it appears only a fraction of the 47 lacrosse team members are there.

12 a.m.: This is the first picture of the strippers. Students are watching the show, but not grabbing or attempting to touch the women. Bruises are clearly visible on the legs and thighs of the alleged victim.

12:00:40 a.m.: Another picture taken 40 seconds later shows bruises on the accuser's knees. Her right knee appears to have an open cut.

12:03:57 p.m.: About four minutes after arriving, a picture shows the strippers leaving the room. The photo clearly shows that the alleged victim left behind one of her shoes.

Between 12:10 a.m. and 12:30 a.m.: No photos were taken between this time.

12:30:12 a.m.: The next photo shows the alleged victim on the back porch, carrying what appears to be her purse and a makeup bag. Her clothes are intact.

12:30:47 a.m.: A photo taken 30 seconds later shows the alleged victim on the porch and she appears to smile.

12:31:26 a.m.: But 30 seconds after that, a photo shows the alleged victim stumbling down the back steps of the house.

12:37:58 a.m.: A series of photos are taken, all showing the woman lying on her left side on the back porch, seemingly passed out or asleep. She had visible cuts on her legs and buttocks that did not appear in the previous photos.

The cuts may be from falling. The cuts on her buttocks line up with the edge of a screen door she may have hit on the way down.

12:41 a.m.: The final photo shows the accuser and the second dancer in a black car. The accuser is in the passengers seat.

Many of the photos taken on the back porch show pink splotches, which the defense says is undried nail polish. They claim the accuser was polishing her nails in the bathroom between 12:10 a.m. and 12:30 a.m. - - not being raped.
 
the only reason the DA is keeping this case alive is because he is up for re-election in a few weeks. its obvious to everyone.
 
this prosecutor is going to get a dozen egg omelet on his face after all is said and done
 
these boys will be rail-roaded by racial injustice. They will be sacrificed on the altar of anti-white-racism just because "it could have been" them, despite the lack of any physical evidence.
 
I'm wondering if the dudes dis'ed the Women when they wouldn't do something nasty etc, and they got pissed and figured they would get even by accusing them of rape.

Either that or these rich white bros don't have much in the way of sexual stamina..
 
they had to be giving her hell......if i paid 400 bucks for two strippers and they showed up with open cuts on their knees and bruises i'd be pissed....probably say some very mean/hateful shit towards them if i was drunk.....the girls then got pissed and decided to make all this shit up
 
lol that the "victim" has a spokesperson.

how come black people always have spokespeople?


and lmao at self righteous race baiters painting a dirty whore as some sweet little girl.


bonfire of the vanities.

these boys families seem to have enough resources that they can sue the crap out this d.a. for wrongful prosecution when all is said and done.

though in a backwards place like the carolinas (no offense), d.a.'s are probably shielded...
 
400,000 bail?

are you fucking kidding dullboy?

and no evidence, other than a convuluted witness statement from a hooker.

lol at the defense attorney having photographic evidence of cuts and bruises on the girl before she even arrived at the party.

the prosecutor should cut bait and apologize before it's way too late...
 
Can they sue the Town of Durham if this turns out to be some asshole attempt by the DA to look good?

She was arrested for stealing a cab once. She has a pretty good rap sheet.
 
dullboy said:
lol that the "victim" has a spokesperson.

how come black people always have spokespeople?


and lmao at self righteous race baiters painting a dirty whore as some sweet little girl.


bonfire of the vanities.

these boys families seem to have enough resources that they can sue the crap out this d.a. for wrongful prosecution when all is said and done.

though in a backwards place like the carolinas (no offense), d.a.'s are probably shielded...[/QUOTE]

Justice in the Carolina's has not advanced a whole lot.
 
Teen charged in murder gets $50,000 bond



By John Stevenson : The Herald-Sun
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Apr 19, 2006 : 11:15 pm ET

DURHAM -- A $50,000 bond was set Wednesday for one of two teens accused in Durham's first homicide of 2006, the March fatal shooting of 24-year-old Alvin Lee Jones.

Nicholas Alexander Mack, 17, previously had been held without bond in the case.

He and Dontae Daevon Jones, 18, are charged with shooting Alvin Jones in the back at the Bentwood Park apartment complex on Junction Road in eastern Durham. Authorities have said the shooting apparently was gang-related.

Superior Court Judge Ron Stephens rejected a defense request that Mack's bond be set as low as $25,000.

"My focus is on community security," the judge said.

Prosecutors have said the Joneses and Mack were traveling together when they apparently opened fire on a group of other men. They said one of the bullets apparently struck Alvin Jones by mistake.

Official reports indicated that Dontae Jones had the initials "EDC" tattooed on his arm, standing for a gang known as the "East Durham Crips."

The fatal shooting occurred on territory claimed by a rival gang, Assistant District Attorney Jim Dornfried said in court Wednesday.

"A lot of people's lives were put in jeopardy," said Dornfried, noting that numerous people were in a parking lot where the shooting occurred.

Evidence indicated that Mack was firing from a car with a .38-caliber gun when Jones was killed, Dornfried added.

He also said that Mack had avoided prosecution in November for giving fictitious information to a police officer, and that he was bonded out of jail on a marijuana charge when the murder occurred last month.

But defense lawyer John Fitzpatrick argued that the shooting was an accident, and that Mack was not the gunman. He said another man in the car with Mack, identified only as Mike, was the probable killer.

"There's no one who can put a weapon in my client's possession at all," Fitzpatrick said. "Nobody puts a weapon in Mr. Mack's hand. Is there any independent witness who can say Mr. Mack had a weapon? The answer is clearly no."

Fitzpatrick said his client's family probably could afford the $50,000 bond.

If so, Judge Stephens ordered that Mack live with his mother, attend school daily, observe a 9 p.m. curfew and stay away from gang members.
 
gotmilk said:
Can they sue the Town of Durham if this turns out to be some asshole attempt by the DA to look good?

She was arrested for stealing a cab once. She has a pretty good rap sheet.

Very very hard to sue for malicious prosecution. Very high standard of proof - it's like trying to prove conversion of goods in transit.

Practically speaking, imagine trying to get a jury of locals to convict a local elected official. No doubt there are political motivations...
 
What will happen if the kid with the DC problem winds up innocent?
He is now facing a ton of shit in DC because being charged violated his probation.
He will now have to reappear in court on an assault charge that would have been dismissed otherwise.
If he is innocent I would sue the shit out of the accuser, the district attorney in Durham and anyone else I could for hardship caused by the false charges.
 
slat1 said:
What will happen if the kid with the DC problem winds up innocent?
He is now facing a ton of shit in DC because being charged violated his probation.
He will now have to reappear in court on an assault charge that would have been dismissed otherwise.
If he is innocent I would sue the shit out of the accuser, the district attorney in Durham and anyone else I could for hardship caused by the false charges.

The accuser in this case is the people of the state of North Carolina. Unless / until this woman files a civil suit, she is not the accuser.

Suing the DA's office for malicious prosecution is virtually impossible.

This sucks for them if they are innocent.

as far as the kid violating probation, he's a schmuck. Probation has ridiculously simple rules. Don't get arrested is always one of them.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
The accuser in this case is the people of the state of North Carolina. Unless / until this woman files a civil suit, she is not the accuser.

Suing the DA's office for malicious prosecution is virtually impossible.

This sucks for them if they are innocent.

as far as the kid violating probation, he's a schmuck. Probation has ridiculously simple rules. Don't get arrested is always one of them.

the woman is the "accuser" bro....the DA is just the prosecutor....he is going on her accusations and the evidence his detectives have found or in this case not found.......if the woman wasn't making accusations the DA wouldn't be able to prosecute. She could theoretically drop the charges if she would say they didn't do it, but she is saying they did do it
 
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