Drums of War bangin' for Iran?

[Longhorn85]

A last hurrah for Bush? Going off in some Iranian ass? The war vs Iraq could not be seperated from it. I would just be one big Middle Eastern showdown:


U.S. Weighing Terrorist Label for Iran Guards

WASHINGTON, Aug. 14 — The Bush administration is preparing to declare that Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps is a foreign terrorist organization, senior administration officials said Tuesday.

If imposed, the declaration would signal a more confrontational turn in the administration’s approach to Iran and would be the first time that the United States has added the armed forces of any sovereign government to its list of terrorist organizations.

...a decision to single out the guard would amount to an aggressive new challenge from an American administration...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/15/w...&ex=1187841600&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

 

[alien amp pharm]

I personally think Iran would welcome such a move. They will try to get as many Nations as possible on their side and will likely succeed in that aspect. Nukes aren't far off. It's proven that Iran's president would not hesitate to use them if available.

 

[AAP]

No.

Why? Because the American public will not tolerate Bush acting stupid in this regards again.

Not to mention the simple fact we haven't won the other two wars we are involved in.

 

[Longhorn85]

It's proven that Iran's president would not hesitate to use them if available.

Which is an argument for pre-emptive action.

No.

we haven't won the other two wars we are involved in.

The two ongoing efforts are two fronts of the same war (GWOT). Iran would be front #3.

 

[rnch]

pity Bush & Co. can't spend as much money rebuilding homes and lives destroyed by the United States Corps of Engineers' faulty flood control levvies as they have poured into the bottomless sand dunes in Iraq.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Which is an argument for pre-emptive action.

Use a nuke to prevent a nuke?

because, like AAP said, the public isn't going to allow this war to go on for much longer. Especially if we start seeing increased American soldier deaths in IRAN.

 

[AAP]

The two ongoing efforts are two fronts of the same war (GWOT). Iran would be front #3.

Actually, they are not.

If that were the case and defining factor, the Saudi Arabia would be #3 since that is where the terrorists were from. But instead of going after the terrorists there what did bushie do? Oh that's right... he sold them billions of dollars of sophisticated weaponry that we designed.

 

[Longhorn85]

Use a nuke to prevent a nuke?

I can think of no better way

 

[stosstruppe]

No way the US public would allow it to get that far.

 

[patsfan1379]

I can think of no better way

People like you get their ass beat by people like me.

 

[patsfan1379]

No way the US public would allow it to get that far.

See post #10

 

[Longhorn85]

People like you get their ass beat by people like me.

Who knows? Perhaps we will meet someday and you can elaborate.

 

[Spartacus]

 

[Longhorn85]

Good action

 

[pdaddyII]

Who knows? Perhaps we will meet someday and you can elaborate.

This calls for a leg race!

 

[AAP]

This calls for a leg race!

So far Longhorn holds the victory in the last one he entered.

 

[pdaddyII]

So far Longhorn holds the victory in the last one he entered.

only by DQ lololol

 

[redsamurai]

People like you get their ass beat by people like me.

real talk

 

[redsamurai]

so let me see if I understand this............not only are we on the hook to rebuild af-fuckistan.........then Iraq................now we want to invest another couple hundred billion dollars in Iran? I'm completely flummoxed? Our economy is about to see a major crisis due to debt..........so our goverment wants to "compound" this problem by spending more?? If our dollar goes in the crapper and much of the world banks come calling on their loans.......we are finished.........y'all do realize this yes?


now I'll say this...........because of our involvement on two fronts that aren't going well and have bogged our conventional military down, Iran or someone else could take this opportunity to do something. Now depending on what that is............yeah, we might have to nuke somebody. I'd rather nuke one of Irans' military bases than see our military go into yet another sand trap. The world has been shown how to frustrate and flummox our conventional forces..............you just let em in..........you give them their little launch deck victory speech ( ) than you go to work, it just takes years...........but time is something these mother fuckers have. These guys don't care if it takes 100 years. That's why getting involved in this region was such a fuck up from the start. These people hold grudges going back over a millenia...........wtf? Leave these people alone.................or just give each and every one of them a suitcase nuke and sit back and watch on sattellite as the entire mideast turns into one giant mushroom cloud. Point is, leave alone..........draw a line in the sand. We don't fuck around in your affairs anymore.........but come over here just one time and mecca gets turned into glass. Will they still come over here and pull some shit......yeah...........so you turn mecca into glass. Than you pick another site and say.......ok............we can do this as long as you want. But just get the fuck out of there....the Israeli's are all growns up now....they can fend for themselves.

 

[AAP]

.the Israeli's are all growns up now....they can fend for themselves.

Not really, they just got their asses kicked by something along the likes of a street gang in that little 30 day war.

 

[redsamurai]

Not really, they just got their asses kicked by something along the likes of a street gang in that little 30 day war.

because they did it half assed...........and because hezbollah fought them the same way the U.S is being fought in Iraq. The Israeli's won't make the same mistake again.......which is why the lebanese army is still fighting Hez.......they don't want the Israeli's coming back in because the next time they do, they will rock that fucker.

 

[heatherrae]

You can't name a military of a country "terrorists" by definition. He is only using those buzzwords to terrify the stupid americans who are the same people who were dumb enough to be confused in thinking that Iraq was responsible for 9/11.

He will set out to start a war in Iran, but hopefully we Americans won't fall for anymore of his shit.

What soldiers are we going to use? They are spread out all over the place already? What financial resources are we going to use? To what gain? Plenty of countries hate us. Are we going to "pre-emptively strike" them all? I love the way we call it that, by the way. Everyone else in the world says we "attacked without provocation."

 

[redsamurai]

every single republican with the exception of Paul, said yes to a "preemptive" nuclear strike option if our "intelligence" services came to them with a looming threat. I was like, wait a minute........you're not talking about the same stellar intelligence network that brought us WMD's right? We're not talking about the same 007's that told us Sadaam was buying yellowcake in Africa right?......my god, this is why I would choose Hillary over every single one of those numbnuts!! If I was president of the United States I'd be checking and double and triple checking with every known intelligence service on the planet before I even considered the nuclear option. At this point, I'd trust something the Jamaican secret service told me over the CIA.

 

[heatherrae]

every single republican with the exception of Paul, said yes to a "preemptive" nuclear strike option if our "intelligence" services came to them with a looming threat. I was like, wait a minute........you're not talking about the same stellar intelligence network that brought us WMD's right? We're not talking about the same 007's that told us Sadaam was buying yellowcake in Africa right?......my god, this is why I would choose Hillary over every single one of those numbnuts!! If I was president of the United States I'd be checking and double and triple checking with every known intelligence service on the planet before I even considered the nuclear option. At this point, I'd trust something the Jamaican secret service told me over the CIA.

Those reports of WMD were planted and paid for. I have not one doubt about it.

 

[Altius]

Re: Drums of War bangin\' for Iran?

That would be the worst thing to do

We would end up with suicide bombers blowing themselves everywhere

Besides we would give a reason for every Islamic country to destroy the Western World

 

[Longhorn85]

that is............yeah, we might have to nuke somebody. I'd rather nuke one of Irans' military bases than see our military go into yet another sand trap.

Oh by the way if we did this a few times the IED parts and terrorists might stop flowing into Iraq.

...but come over here just one time and mecca gets turned into glass. Will they still come over here and pull some shit......yeah...........so you turn mecca into glass. Than you pick another site and say.......ok............we can do this as long as you want.

My junk got hard when I read this part

 

[Razorguns]

the us always needs an 'enemy'

that doesn't mean we'll attack iran. hell we just our asses kicked in iraq for crying out loud.

having an 'enemy' keeps war funds coming, and keeps soldiers motivated. in the 80s we had no 'enemy'. it was a shitty time for the military and defense contractors.

r

 

[Powerbuilder333]

I say let Isreal fuck Iran. If we get jealous of their fun, then let the CIA dress up as Iranian secularists so they can get wet too.

 

[mountain muscle]

The stupidity and the pussies that currently occupy this country and this board make me sick.

 

[Longhorn85]

Are you capable of articulating your reason(s) or are you content to throw sticks and stones?

 

[mountain muscle]

Are you capable of articulating your reason(s) or are you content to throw sticks and stones?

lol you talking to me LH?

 

[WODIN]

Leave Iran alone and in the next few years it will have it's own civil war, revolution, whatever you want to call it and come out with an open democracy. Attack them and you will do nothing but harden them against the west and create even more terrorist in the name of islam.

The war in Iraq had nothing to do with fighting terrorist and detracts from the real war on terror that should have been fought, won and over with in Afghanistan. These are not two separate fronts of the same war. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 no matter how many times the Bushies and Fox Opinion Channel say that there was.

What's Bush going to attack with?

 

[mountain muscle]

Woody, did you just suggest the war on terror could be fought, won and over in afghanistan?

 

[WODIN]

I just have this wild ass notion that if the core source of the fundamentalist jihad happy fuck nuts live in one area and the vast majority of their supporters live there too then that'd be the place go and fight.

You know. Osama Bin Laden, the Taliban, those guys.

 

[AAP]

Woody, did you just suggest the war on terror could be fought, won and over in afghanistan?

Yes, but not by the current Administration that can't tell their asses from elbows. Too late for that now.

 

[Longhorn85]

These are not two separate fronts of the same war. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 no matter how many times the Bushies and Fox Opinion Channel say that there was.

There are exactly two fronts in the same war. We are fighting
Al Queida in both places.

For the gazillionth time no one is claiming that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that was not a pretense for going to war against Saddam Hussein. That does not mean he was not supportive of terrorism--he was.

 

[Teen_Juicer]

People like you get their ass beat by people like me.

bwahahahahaha
by people like you do you mean 180lb late 30's juicers? i'm sure he's shaking in his brunos.
and how many yrs are you gonna pimp the same avatar pic? hmmm? surely a badass like yourself has a harem of juicer gals to pick from

 

[heatherrae]

There are exactly two fronts in the same war. We are fighting
Al Queida in both places.

For the gazillionth time no one is claiming that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that was not a pretense for going to war against Saddam Hussein. That does not mean he was not supportive of terrorism--he was.

No, he was not. He hated terrorists more than we did. He was keeping that part of the world in check.

 

[AAP]

There are exactly two fronts in the same war. We are fighting
Al Queida in both places.

For the gazillionth time no one is claiming that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that was not a pretense for going to war against Saddam Hussein. That does not mean he was not supportive of terrorism--he was.

No, the pretense was WMDs... we see how that little scenario has played out haven't we?

 

[Spartacus]

The stupidity and the pussies that currently occupy this country and this board make me sick.

 

[Spartacus]

Woody, did you just suggest the war on terror could be fought, won and over in afghanistan?

heh

 

[alien amp pharm]

bwahahahahaha
by people like you do you mean 180lb late 30's juicers? i'm sure he's shaking in his brunos.
and how many yrs are you gonna pimp the same avatar pic? hmmm? surely a badass like yourself has a harem of juicer gals to pick from

lmao!

^^^ who is this guy's real handle?

 

[Y_lifter]

This is great news for my 401K

 

[Spartacus]

This is great news for my 401K

thinking about getting a thousand shares of raytheon right now

 

[redsamurai]

My junk got hard when I read this part

I find nothing erotic about the death of millions of people..........IF it ever got to this point where that action would have to be taken, it would be a travesty of humankind. I offer these suggestions ONLY because I know that there are muslims out there who are being born and bred to hate us. But what I also understand is that the U.S has it's equal share of this situation........anyone who doesn't get that doesn't perceive the world outside of Fox news parameters. The problems we're experiencing today are a direct result of the west's meddling in middle eastern affairs since before most of us were born. But all that aside..........the only way we might be able to disengage from all this is if we draw that line in the sand and say "no more"........we leave you alone, you leave us alone..........and we STICK to the agreement. If they cross it........well...........we wipe their religion off the planet..............I honestly think that's the ONLY thing they'll respond to anymore. Sad it's at that point. But again........longhorn..........there's nothing to be aroused about...........joke or not. It comes down to whether you're a gentleman or not. If I was president and had to make that decision..........I would take the honorable decision and resign the next day. That's why the word samurai is in my handle.

 

[redsamurai]

lol you talking to me lh - leutenizing hormone - ?

pwned by spellwin again.........

 

[redsamurai]

There are exactly two fronts in the same war. We are fighting
Al Queida in both places.

For the gazillionth time no one is claiming that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that was not a pretense for going to war against Saddam Hussein. That does not mean he was not supportive of terrorism--he was.

al quaida came to iraq because we were there.............they hated Hussein. And just about every leader in the middle east is "supportive" of terrorism..........in words mainly. How many actually fund them and train them? Not sadaam........never

 

[Spartacus]

1000 of RTN is about $55,000
let's go kill some alqueda

 

[Razorguns]

That does not mean he was not supportive of terrorism--he was.

no he wasn't. he didn't give a shit. he just wanted to sell oil very soon to countries 'other' than the us.

figure out the rest.

r

 

[wake_up]

Bush and his mafia warhawks have literally highjacked the USA, destroyed it, destroyed and did 9-11, as a pretext to wage endless oil wars. The fact is that there are no nucular weapons of mass destruction in Iran. Cheney and Bush just wanna take over iran's oil along with their corporate oil buddies. Go to www.informationliberation.com and www.prisonplanet.com and www.whatreallyhappened.com

wake_up

A last hurrah for Bush? Going off in some Iranian ass? The war vs Iraq could not be seperated from it. I would just be one big Middle Eastern showdown:


U.S. Weighing Terrorist Label for Iran Guards

WASHINGTON, Aug. 14 — The Bush administration is preparing to declare that Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps is a foreign terrorist organization, senior administration officials said Tuesday.

If imposed, the declaration would signal a more confrontational turn in the administration’s approach to Iran and would be the first time that the United States has added the armed forces of any sovereign government to its list of terrorist organizations.

...a decision to single out the guard would amount to an aggressive new challenge from an American administration...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/15/w...&ex=1187841600&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

 

[javaguru]

You can't name a military of a country "terrorists" by definition. He is only using those buzzwords to terrify the stupid americans who are the same people who were dumb enough to be confused in thinking that Iraq was responsible for 9/11.

He will set out to start a war in Iran, but hopefully we Americans won't fall for anymore of his shit.

What soldiers are we going to use? They are spread out all over the place already? What financial resources are we going to use? To what gain? Plenty of countries hate us. Are we going to "pre-emptively strike" them all? I love the way we call it that, by the way. Everyone else in the world says we "attacked without provocation."

Well, under the legislation, once they become a terrorist organization they can freeze/seize assets and prevent US businesses from conducting business with them; I think that's the motive.

Anywho, Hideki Tojo(Japanese Minister of War) was tried, convicted and sentenced to hanging for the war crime of "Conspiracy to Wage War." The winners can do whatever they want.....

 

[Longhorn85]

"supportive" of terrorism..........in words mainly. How many actually fund them and train them? Not sadaam........never

no he wasn't. he didn't give a shit.

"The captured materials shed light on the Iraqi aid to the Palestinian confrontation in the PA, with emphasis on the encouragement of terrorist attacks. This aid...is an expression of Iraqi policy - the interest to escalate the Israeli-Palestinian conflict...to divert international attention from Iraq and to delay the US attack plans against Iraq."


http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il/MFA/MF... Support for and Encouragement of Palestinian

 

[WODIN]

There are exactly two fronts in the same war. We are fighting
Al Queida in both places.

For the gazillionth time no one is claiming that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that was not a pretense for going to war against Saddam Hussein. That does not mean he was not supportive of terrorism--he was.

Bullshit. LMAO.

Al Queda wasn't in Iraq until we invaded. The strech your making would put the Tami Tigers of Indonesia in Osama Bin laden's group.

You know your conflating this issue because the average zombie shit head here doesn't understand the difference between OBL's group and Abu Hamza Albjuri's group. Before they were known as AQI they called themesleves Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad ("Group of Monotheism and the Holy Struggle").

That name doesn't sell your bullshit spin though.

 

[Mavafanculo]

There are exactly two fronts in the same war. We are fighting
Al Queida in both places.

For the gazillionth time no one is claiming that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that was not a pretense for going to war against Saddam Hussein. That does not mean he was not supportive of terrorism--he was.

1) our combined intel services have said again and again that "al queda" (a splinter group) in iraq is a tiny part of the total "insurgency" movement in iraq

2) conflating 9/11 and sadaam hussain/iraq was a MAJOR part (along with the WMD lie) of the disinformation/propaganda campaign to get us into iraq. you still dont admit that?

 

[Longhorn85]

1) our combined intel services have said again and again that "al queda" (a splinter group) in iraq is a tiny part of the total "insurgency" movement in iraq

Glad to hear you have so much faith in our intel services. You're wrong about Al Queida though. Tell the Kurds that they are just a splinter group.

<snip>
August 15, 2007 · The death toll from four suicide bombings in northwest Iraq climbed to at least 250 on Wednesday, prompting a U.S. general to label the coordinated attacks on a small Kurdish sect "ethnic cleansing."

A week ago, the Islamic State in Iraq, an al-Qaida front group, distributed leaflets warning residents near where the bombings took place that an attack was imminent because Yazidis are "anti-Islamic."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12800852

 

[Mavafanculo]

Glad to hear you have so much faith in our intel services. You're wrong about Al Queida though. Tell the Kurds that they are just a splinter group.

QUOTE]

you have a better idea of who to believe? oh I know whatever bush/cheney say.

p.s. the CIA et al work alot better when they're not being pushed around by Cheney, and the raw pre-war Intel reports were alot closer to reality than the cherry-picked propaganda summary's that Congress got

 

[AAP]

The bottom line is, if Bush and cronies were doing so hot over there and everything was exactly as they try to make everyone believe, then why isn't the war over and we won?

Oh we are still trying to turn the corner huh?

 

[Mavafanculo]

The bottom line is, if Bush and cronies were doing so hot over there and everything was exactly as they try to make everyone believe, then why isn't the war over and we won?

Oh we are still trying to turn the corner huh?

now it seems like "the report by Gen Patreas" that the imbicile keeps talking about will actually be written by the WH with input from "various officials" bwahahahaha.

so either the WH changed plans when patreas told them things were a clusterfuck, or that was the plan all along and they just werent going to tell anyone - cept it got leaked.

 

[redsamurai]

now it seems like "the report by Gen Patreas" that the imbicile keeps talking about will actually be written by the WH with input from "various officials" bwahahahaha.

so either the WH changed plans when patreas told them things were a clusterfuck, or that was the plan all along and they just werent going to tell anyone - cept it got leaked.

I never thought for "ONE SECOND" that the WH would allow a soldier's report, no matter how truthful, to dictate their foreign policy. Whatever Petraus say's, even if he say's that things aren't going well, it's at the behest of the commander in chief.........end of story. I smell a scenario in which they ambiguously blame the military, ie petraus, for not successfully directing the surge. Some kind of fall guy setup seems to be looming...........which will allow them to exit without admitting any missteps whatsoever. Mark what I say....................THE most digusting individuals that reside on this planet, reside in DC. I wouldn't find a french schoolyard on behalf of these malfeasants! The most dishonorable, unethical men.....and I use the word man merely to point out that they're "males".............because NONE of them are "men".

 

[CrazyRussian]

I never thought for "ONE SECOND" that the WH would allow a soldier's report, no matter how truthful, to dictate their foreign policy. Whatever Petraus say's, even if he say's that things aren't going well, it's at the behest of the commander in chief.........end of story. I smell a scenario in which they ambiguously blame the military, ie petraus, for not successfully directing the surge. Some kind of fall guy setup seems to be looming...........which will allow them to exit without admitting any missteps whatsoever. Mark what I say....................THE most digusting individuals that reside on this planet, reside in DC. I wouldn't find a french schoolyard on behalf of these malfeasants! The most dishonorable, unethical men.....and I use the word man merely to point out that they're "males".............because NONE of them are "men".

If you don't think that corruption happens in every single government in the world, youre naive. The people who reside in DC are very powerful men who participate in some underhanded activities to further their interests...compare this to how some governments murder thousands, tens of thousands of their own citizens. how does it comapre?

 

[redsamurai]

If you don't think that corruption happens in every single government in the world, youre naive. The people who reside in DC are very powerful men who participate in some underhanded activities to further their interests...compare this to how some governments murder thousands, tens of thousands of their own citizens. how does it comapre?

because said men in washington will do business with the worst this world has to offer...........so it makes them just as bad. When someone murders tens of thousands of people, and we then do business with this person because currently it suits some rich folks needs...........that's dishonorable. Remember what a good buddy sadaam was? And all because he was fighting Iran whom we didn't like because they fucked up our Delta force operation in 77...........which was just them overthrowing the Shaw whom we put in power in the early 50's. Everything has a reason.........a beginning. Our government would dearly like us to have memories that go no further back than 2 years.

 

[bigmann245]

i guess bush isnt finished embarressing himself yet. if they say their army is a terrorist unit then why not say ALL armies in the world are. we train our armies to defend our country against others. i guess we are training terrorists also

 

[Longhorn85]

now it seems like "the report by Gen Patreas" that the imbicile keeps talking about will actually be written by the WH with input from "various officials" bwahahahaha.

You didn't even attempt to provide a source for that bullshit you just made up. The fact that you would imply that about General Petraeus is a clear indication of your lack of respect for our military.

Typical liberal conspiracy theory BS

 

[Mavafanculo]

You didn't even attempt to provide a source for that bullshit you just made up. The fact that you would imply that about General Petraeus is a clear indication of your lack of respect for our military.

Typical liberal conspiracy theory BS

Standby to be owned by reality yet again Republi-bot....

-

 

[Mavafanculo]

You didn't even attempt to provide a source for that bullshit you just made up. The fact that you would imply that about General Petraeus is a clear indication of your lack of respect for our military.

Typical liberal conspiracy theory BS

1)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-pullback15aug15,0,4840766.story?page=2

"...Despite Bush's repeated statements that the report will reflect evaluations by Petraeus and Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, administration officials said it would actually be written by the White House, with inputs from officials throughout the government...."

2)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/20429/1/Hardball-Matthews-Petraeus-08-16-2007.wmv

Chris Matthews: Is the White House going to pull a Lucy again? With the football trick, all over again? For months President Bush has been asking us to wait for a report from General Petraeus. How many times have we heard that phrase? “Wait for the report from General Petraeus.” Now we learn that the White House is going to write that report - the White House - and that the General will testify publicly before Congress only after the report’s been written by Bush’s people.

3)
www.newsmaximum/preports
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What do you have to say for yourself Republi-bot?

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[Razorguns]

The bottom line is, if Bush and cronies were doing so hot over there and everything was exactly as they try to make everyone believe, then why isn't the war over and we won?

Oh we are still trying to turn the corner huh?

we did:

in 2005.

and the insurgency has always been in it's 'last throes'

lol!!!

don't worry. the war will be won and over JUST IN TIME for the next election. Watch the beautiful timing.

and 3,700 us lives will be in vain.

 

[redsamurai]

Haha, longhorn pwned...........

1)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-pullback15aug15,0,4840766.story?page=2

"...Despite Bush's repeated statements that the report will reflect evaluations by Petraeus and Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, administration officials said it would actually be written by the White House, with inputs from officials throughout the government...."

2)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/20429/1/Hardball-Matthews-Petraeus-08-16-2007.wmv

Chris Matthews: Is the White House going to pull a Lucy again? With the football trick, all over again? For months President Bush has been asking us to wait for a report from General Petraeus. How many times have we heard that phrase? “Wait for the report from General Petraeus.” Now we learn that the White House is going to write that report - the White House - and that the General will testify publicly before Congress only after the report’s been written by Bush’s people.

3)
www.newsmaximum/preports
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What do you have to say for yourself Republi-bot?

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[Mavafanculo]

bump to humiliate longhorn

 

[rnch]

bump to humiliate longhorn

i'd say time and the stupidities of the republicans have done this quite well for LH...

 

[Mavafanculo]

i'd say time and the stupidities of the republicans have done this quite well for lh - leutenizing hormone - ...

and now the crack EF Auto-Expander turned him into a body secretion oollolloolo

 

[rnch]

lol.........lh isn't a real person anyway...he's a computer generated propaganda bot for the GOP.

 

[redsamurai]

god damn, I'm cackling every time I see longhorn turned into leutenizing hormone..............fuck me this site is annoying

 

[rnch]

yeh... i use the initials on purpose.

 

[AAP]

1)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-pullback15aug15,0,4840766.story?page=2

"...Despite Bush's repeated statements that the report will reflect evaluations by Petraeus and Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, administration officials said it would actually be written by the White House, with inputs from officials throughout the government...."

2)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/20429/1/Hardball-Matthews-Petraeus-08-16-2007.wmv

Chris Matthews: Is the White House going to pull a Lucy again? With the football trick, all over again? For months President Bush has been asking us to wait for a report from General Petraeus. How many times have we heard that phrase? “Wait for the report from General Petraeus.” Now we learn that the White House is going to write that report - the White House - and that the General will testify publicly before Congress only after the report’s been written by Bush’s people.

3)
www.newsmaximum/preports
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What do you have to say for yourself Republi-bot?

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OMG!!!

What kind of Reily/Fox spin is he going to come back with now? This is total pwnage by the Administrations own actions.

 

[Longhorn85]

Been out for a while, took the family on a week-long campout in the north of Portugal -beautiful time. Glad to see Mavafanculo has been able to keep himself entertained.

Once all the liberal hoopla and finger-pointing has settled down, realize this: Bush is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, and head of the Executive Branch. If he chooses to have members of his staff report directly to Congress vs Gen Petraeus, does that necessarily make it any less Gen Petraeus' report?

Have you ever considered that as the leader of forces on the ground, Gen Petraeus might have something better to do than spend a week in DC answering reporter's questions?

Again, as I said before, to assume that Gen P would allow words to be put into his mouth is disrespectful both to him and the military as a whole.

It is also typical liberal behaviour.

 

[b0und]

Nuh bro, you got pwned.

This whole shit is too serious to be gleeful about though.

If the US really goes to war with Iran in one more of those pre-emptive strikes the resulting mess could fuck things up for the next 20 years at least.




b0und (I'd rather not see that)

 

[Forge]

Been out for a while, took the family on a week-long campout in the north of Portugal -beautiful time. Glad to see Mavafanculo has been able to keep himself entertained.

Once all the liberal hoopla and finger-pointing has settled down, realize this: Bush is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, and head of the Executive Branch. If he chooses to have members of his staff report directly to Congress vs Gen Petraeus, does that necessarily make it any less Gen Petraeus' report?

Have you ever considered that as the leader of forces on the ground, Gen Petraeus might have something better to do than spend a week in DC answering reporter's questions?

Again, as I said before, to assume that Gen P would allow words to be put into his mouth is disrespectful both to him and the military as a whole.

It is also typical liberal behaviour.

Good spin effort, but understandably weak as it's hard to come back from ownage like what Mav dished out. I know you have to "stay the course" no matter what or your fragile beliefs will shatter apart, but we all know deep down that you are not a stupid person, and that you are aware of the attrocities this administration has committed and are still perpetuating.

That's what is so infuriating about men like you, intelligent men who just bury their head in the sand and blindly follow anyone who is in your party's upper echelons, no matter what, smply because their actions may benefit you personally and financially in some manner. Reminds me of Nazi Germany, it disgusts me...

 

[redsamurai]

That's what is so infuriating about men like you, intelligent men who just bury their head in the sand and blindly follow anyone who is in your party's upper echelons, no matter what, smply because their actions may benefit you personally and financially in some manner. Reminds me of Nazi Germany, it disgusts me...:(

wow.......I mean WOW.........

 

[Mavafanculo]

Nuh bro, you got pwned.

This whole shit is too serious to be gleeful about though.

If the US really goes to war with Iran in one more of those pre-emptive strikes the resulting mess could fuck things up for the next 20 years at least.


b0und (I'd rather not see that)

TITCR

it seems that immunity to facts, inability to admit when you're wrong, and self delusion so as not to shake your belief system is part and parcel of being a republican these days. just listen to hannity or that tool fake "newsman" Brittle Hume on any given day. All the facts are against them. what else can they do.

Longhorn is just another example. He said "A" is false. I document "A" is true, he doesnt even skip a beat. spin dance rephrase, distinction without a difference. ooolloolloollloloolo

 

[Mavafanculo]

Good spin effort, but understandably weak as it's hard to come back from ownage like what Mav dished out. I know you have to "stay the course" no matter what or your fragile beliefs will shatter apart, but we all know deep down that you are not a stupid person, and that you are aware of the attrocities this administration has committed and are still perpetuating.

That's what is so infuriating about men like you, intelligent men who just bury their head in the sand and blindly follow anyone who is in your party's upper echelons, no matter what, smply because their actions may benefit you personally and financially in some manner. Reminds me of Nazi Germany, it disgusts me...

wait, THIS is TCR

 

[Longhorn85]

That's what is so infuriating about men like you, intelligent men who just bury their head in the sand and blindly follow anyone who is in your party's upper echelons, no matter what, smply because their actions may benefit you personally and financially in some manner. Reminds me of Nazi Germany, it disgusts me...

Although it doesn't infuriate me, I find it to be an interesting piece of rationalization on the part of people like yourself, Mav and others.

It is unfathomable, I guess, for me to have an actual, sincere different opinion on this than you. You jump right to bizarre conspiracy theories.

Why do you suppose most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well? Are they all mind-numbed robots too? Are they getting rich from this war? Maybe like most liberals, you have an inherent disdain for the military.

Most of them have the skills to make much more money outside the Army. Yet they continue to enlist and renlist during a time of war.

Give General Petraeus some credit as a man and a military officer before you assume that he is a puppet.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Why bother debating the knee jerk liberals? They just don't matter. Even if they get Clinton in the White House, she's going to do what needs to be done. If that means attacking Iran - so be it, she'll do it. Like Maggie Thatcher, there's no way she will want to appear weak on foriegn policy. Remember, she's the Clinton with the balls!
How's being politically impotent work for you dove? LOL.

 

[Mavafanculo]

Although it doesn't infuriate me, I find it to be an interesting piece of rationalization on the part of people like yourself, Mav and others.

It is unfathomable, I guess, for me to have an actual, sincere different opinion on this than you. You jump right to bizarre conspiracy theories.

Why do you suppose most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well? Are they all mind-numbed robots too? Are they getting rich from this war? Maybe like most liberals, you have an inherent disdain for the military.

Most of them have the skills to make much more money outside the Army. Yet they continue to enlist and renlist during a time of war.

Give General Petraeus some credit as a man and a military officer before you assume that he is a puppet.

1) you truly are immune to reality. ITS NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY WHEN THE WH ADMITS IT WILL WRITE THE FUCKING REPORT. IT"S A FACT. GOT IT??

2) I said the report would be written by the WH, not patreaus. you said no that cant be so, and I have no repsct for the military to say he would allow words to be put in his mouth.

--what does that say for Bush, whose WH WILL write the report, and thus put words in the generals mouth. NO RESPECT FOR THE MILITARY. USING THEM AS PUPPET PROPS FOR HIS POLITICAL MOVES.

"The Patreaus Report", "The Patreaus Report","The Patreaus Report","The Patreaus Report", says the imbilcile. But the WH will write it.

using the military as puppet propss. No Respect.


3) you said "most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well". be more specific so I can blow you up again. because if its any of the things I think you mean, you're wrong yet again republi-bot.

 

[Razorguns]

assume that he is a puppet.

do you think his mission is 'to secure democracy in iraq'?? That was Rumsfeld, and he sure fucked that up.

his mission is simply to make it safe enough so troops can start coming back just in time for the november election. Repubs know they have to come back if they want any chance of winning in nov.

his role is severely limited. 'winning' is not on his list.

 

[Mavafanculo]

If he chooses to have members of his staff report directly to Congress vs Gen Petraeus, does that necessarily make it any less Gen Petraeus' report?
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jeez you are maddening.

"....administration officials said it would actually be written by the White House, with inputs from officials throughout the government...."


He keeps calling it "The Patreaus Report".

Not "The White House Report With Input From Various Officials Including Gen Patreaus"

There's nothing salvagable in your argument.

Just give up and stop moving, and I'll stop smacking you down.

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[Longhorn85]

It is a report from General Petraeus. The report will include the results of the surge to date. Thus the name.

Oh, and just because you found a few liberal cheerleaders on this thread, don't go thinking you have bested me, my liberal would-be nemesis.

A quick search will turn up so much ownage at your expense that it would any rival Civil War battlefield.

 

[BigRupe]

Not really, they just got their asses kicked by something along the likes of a street gang in that little 30 day war.

Whose fiction are you reading??

Define "ass kicked" because they sure as hell inflicted more causalties on the islamo-terrorist.

 

[BigRupe]

Although it doesn't infuriate me, I find it to be an interesting piece of rationalization on the part of people like yourself, Mav and others.

It is unfathomable, I guess, for me to have an actual, sincere different opinion on this than you. You jump right to bizarre conspiracy theories.

Why do you suppose most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well? Are they all mind-numbed robots too? Are they getting rich from this war? Maybe like most liberals, you have an inherent disdain for the military.

Most of them have the skills to make much more money outside the Army. Yet they continue to enlist and renlist during a time of war.

Give General Petraeus some credit as a man and a military officer before you assume that he is a puppet.

quoted for truth

Some here just don't have the balls to do what's right

 

[Forge]

Although it doesn't infuriate me, I find it to be an interesting piece of rationalization on the part of people like yourself, Mav and others.

It is unfathomable, I guess, for me to have an actual, sincere different opinion on this than you. You jump right to bizarre conspiracy theories.

Why do you suppose most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well? Are they all mind-numbed robots too? Are they getting rich from this war? Maybe like most liberals, you have an inherent disdain for the military.

Most of them have the skills to make much more money outside the Army. Yet they continue to enlist and renlist during a time of war.

Give General Petraeus some credit as a man and a military officer before you assume that he is a puppet.

See, there you go, just as always, assuming anyone who thinks differently than you is a bleeding heart liberal who hates anything republican. You just can't fathom the idea that any Republican could disagree with the President and this administration.

Fact is I'm a Republican, have been my whole life. I loved Reagan and Bush Sr. and pretty much everything they did (mostly). It's this current administration that has me ashamed to say I'm a Republican. Their actions have been and continue to be nothing short of appalling and horrifying. Our county is in the worst shape it has been in many decades, both financially and politically, and it's all due to very poor decisions made by this administration.

It's not the fact that your opinion differs from mine that astounds me, it's the fact that intelligent men like yourself just can't admit mistakes made by our party. It's like you are completely oblivious to them. Similar to how Bush Jr. is oblivious to them, or at least acts like he is. Maybe you are just acting too and pushing the party line no matter what. But what is the point of politics if we can't admit mistakes, and if we can't learn from those mistakes?

Like any good therapist can tell you, healing begins with admission...

 

[Longhorn85]

It's not the fact that your opinion differs from mine that astounds me, it's the fact that intelligent men like yourself just can't admit mistakes made by our party. It's like you are completely oblivious to them. ...

The issue here is not the party or politics, its the war. This nation committed itself, its treasure and its military to establishing democracy in Iraq.

Let's see it through, realizing that it is not an easy endeavor. Folks like Nancy Pelosi, Hillary and others couldn't care less about the prosecution of the war and victory.

They are more concerned with doing anything to stay in office and to make political hay out of any misstep by Bush.

 

[AAP]

Whose fiction are you reading??

Define "ass kicked" because they sure as hell inflicted more causalties on the islamo-terrorist.

Umm.. Isreal invades... does minor damage... retreats home empty handed.

Yeah, they got whipped. Hezzies still in effect, still armed, still doing Hezzie stuff.

 

[Longhorn85]

How many terrorists did they kill? They smacked some Hezbollah ass for a month, and I love the way Bush DICTATED to the rest of the G8 (who were meeting at the time) to let it continue for a while to let it sting some more.

 

[AAP]

quoted for truth

Some here just don't have the balls to do what's right

Reality is calling. Why don't you run along and say hi. Introduce yourself. Maybe you two will get to be friends.

Mav just Repwnage'd the entire Administration with Hiroshima like effect. House of cards go bye-bye.

 

[rnch]

a little known factoid is that LH is not a live person but a computer generated bot by the Bushbarians; created and maintained to feed their propaganda to the unsuspectiong American public.

 

[AAP]

How many terrorists did they kill? They smacked some Hezbollah ass for a month, and I love the way Bush DICTATED to the rest of the G8 (who were meeting at the time) to let it continue for a while to let it sting some more.

Did they get their soldiers?

How many Isrealis died?

Who retreated?

I highly doubt the citizens of Lebanon classify as "terrorists".

Anywho.... you have your hands full applying bandaids from the mauling Mav just dished out so I won't press the issue here and hijack this thread.

 

[Longhorn85]

How many Isrealis died?

Prepare for shock: SOLDIERS DIE IN WAR

 

[AAP]

The issue here is not the party or politics, its the war. This nation committed itself, its treasure and its military to establishing democracy in Iraq.

Actually, we didn't.

We committed ourselves to a War on Terror. Which we were directly lied to in regards.

We didn't go into Iraq to establish a democracy. We went there for WMDs. Remember those? Oh, they haven't been mentioned for a long time now. Neither has the name "osama bin lade". Why is that?

The issue here is war, but it is also the political party that lied to us and got us involved in this in an underhanded fashion. Iraqi ain't got no democracy yet. Still ain't got no WMDs either. What we doing there? Besides dying. You can stop with the scare tactics because no one is falling for that again. Didn't work in 06. Not even with the narrowminded simpletons that blindly followed along in the first place. Even they are over that smoke and mirrors trick. You can stop with the finger pointing and "liberal" blaming because your party didn't accomplish jack shit while it was in control of congress other than to rack up personal scandals and indictments. Which is why the 06 elections saw ya'll toss out of office.

Now we down to a simple report that heaven forbid, someone give an honest accurate account of. And it is shocking that the Administration will basically handwrite the report themselves? Not really. Remember this is the party that is scared to death to have a conversation under oath. Gee... wonder why?

 

[AAP]

Prepare for shock: SOLDIERS DIE IN WAR

They die in unlawful occupation too. Just like our guys.

While Isreal got whipped, at least they had a REASON to go to war and invade another country. More than we had. And least they had an exit strategy. More than our imbecile in charge had.

 

[Longhorn85]

We committed ourselves to a War on Terror.

The key word there is committed. So, let's stay committed.

 

[AAP]

The key word there is committed. So, let's stay committed.

We committed because we were lied to in the first place.

No truth behind the reason, then no committment behind the administration.

Fair's fair.