Dropping dbol, can't stand the pump

[MrRTTB]

This is my third week with dbol at 30-35mg per day(depending on awake hours).

First week and second was fine. Now in the third week my pumps are amazing. I like them a lot but when it comes to doing legs and back It's just too much.

I just came from the gym. I thought I would do squats this time in the smith machine to lower the stress on my lower back. With the free weighjt squats I get to much pump.

Well I started squating and in the third warmup set it began. I streched the back but too late. I then packed on with weight and did one set of 5reps, mnore than that would probably kill me. I then waited 3 minutes but the pain was too massive. I told my self "pussy squat" and did another set and almost died. I did a total of 4 sets and after thjat I was finished. I couldn't stand up. The pump and pain was sick.

I mean This is just too much. I know pumps can be amazing but when it gets this far, when you can't do 100% in the gym because of the pain from the pump, then I rather drop the shit.

I'm holding water yes, a lot too actually even with 50mg proviron and some nolvadex + dandellion.

I will copntiinue this week at 25mg per day, then go off for 4 weeks. Then step on winny at 50mg because I know I do not get the same pump from that.

Next time, in dec when I'm doing my second one(already planed for the next competing year) I will probably use anadrol instead as a lot of people do not get the sick pump pains from it as they do with dbol.)

Guys, what do you do about the pump pain, it's sick

ps. also on Enathate and EQ

 

[thate]

Hey bro, instead of dropping it try lowering the dosage to 15-20mgs ed. I still got decent gains from the lower dosage. Ldex doesn't even help with the dbol water for me, maybe try femara next time around. D-root doesn't do a thing for estrogen related sides either.

 

[NapoleanComplex]

My favorite was the glute-pump from walking up flights of stairs in the building that I work. Squats and Deads were hard to do...the back pump would set in after 2 warmup sets...

 

[rvd_brock]

What do you mean by "pump" specifically?

 

[drrman]

you dont think you'll get pumps from anadrol...LOL, you'll get pumps plus bitch tits!!! plus 2 gallons of water in your cheeks!!

 

[eviction]

you dont think you'll get pumps from anadrol...LOL, you'll get pumps plus bitch tits!!! plus 2 gallons of water in your cheeks!!

yea i heard anadrol is crazy sick with water retention and the chance of sides are wayyy higher than d-bol... thats just the image i have of a-bombs from what everyone has told me

 

[Bulk King]

Last cycle I did of sus/d-bol I had to cut back to deads every other week. I usually only run it for the first 4-5 weeks of my cycle because the pumps in my low back get so bad I can't walk my dogs without extreme discomfort.

 

[bigp3]

I know it sounds crazy and I dont know the science behind it, but a friend of mine that is a pharmacist told me to load up on calcium and magnesium. Bingo, last cycle no problems with nut busting pumps in my lower back.

 

[anabolic24/7]

I know it sounds crazy and I dont know the science behind it, but a friend of mine that is a pharmacist told me to load up on calcium and magnesium. Bingo, last cycle no problems with nut busting pumps in my lower back.

I'll have to try that, the pumps can make you cry almost.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Try lowering the doses to 20-25mgs ED like Thate said. It "might" help.

 

[MrRTTB]

with pump I mean the opain that accurs with the pressure ion the lower back when it's stressed like when your doing deads and squats.

Anadrol doesn't have to mean water retention, many like it pre contest because It will not give as much water. It's individuall, I do not hold any water from nandrolone so maybe drol with it's progestrone effect would be a better pick. If not, I would stick with winny.

I will try out the mag + calsium

 

[supertech69]

I feel your pain bro, after having my first month of leg workouts ruined by d-bol at the beginning of this cycle, I've decided to leave that shit alone. I don't think anyone truly understands just how fucking bad it hurts until it happens to them. I've always gotten it but, this time it was worse. I mean it hurts, to walk, sit even breath once my low back gets pumped. I've always used it to kick start my cycles, guess I'll just be using winny at the beginning & the end from now on. Let me know how the drol works. I've concidered drol but, thought it would do the same thing as d-bol.

 

[gppower]

Amazing! I've had those "pumps" for years and I thought it was my back that was weak. No way to stand up or walk when it happens and it always fucks up my squat training. Exacty like you guys and I though I was the only one. And all the wimps in the gym that take the piss, when they have never squatted in all their sad life.
I don't use dbol though. I get it with other gear. By warming up slowly and stretching my back I get them later than before.
I will try calcium and mag.

 

[supertech69]

I still have them but, only irritating, they don't disable me like they do when on d-bol. I am currently running EQ & T-Enan. Anyone have a solid reason as to why it happens or know what causes it? I seem to remember someone sometime back saying that it may be compareable to women getting back pain while pregnant due to hormonal imbalance? Is there any validity in that theory? If so, I'd think there would be a sure fire way to get rid of the shit. I've always liked d-bol but,I just can't take the back pain anymore. Especially when my legs are what end up suffering, they are small enough as is, I cant afford to have my workouts cut short.

 

[Parabellum]

I know it sounds crazy and I dont know the science behind it, but a friend of mine that is a pharmacist told me to load up on calcium and magnesium. Bingo, last cycle no problems with nut busting pumps in my lower back.

That's what I heard too. Load up on the magnesium and water and that should take care of it within a day or two. I think they have a few threads on this at gotfina.com. I also heard that you should up your salt intake.

 

[apbt549]

i have the same problem i going to try drol next cycle .man the lower back pumps hurt like a mofo..........you can't do shit until it goes away

 

[MrRTTB]

Lowered dose today + bought calsium witgh magnesium in it. And when I was in the mood of buying things I also bought omega3 oil, garlic, multivitamines, pantotenic acid, tocyferol, ala, milktistle and some other things.

 

[Parabellum]

Let us know how it works out for you.

 

[thate]

Lowered dose today + bought calsium witgh magnesium in it. And when I was in the mood of buying things I also bought omega3 oil, garlic, multivitamines, pantotenic acid, tocyferol, ala, milktistle and some other things.

Good plan. What did you lower it to?

 

[Mandinka2]

Usin thai dbols today at a lousy 15 mgs , had to drop from 20gs cos pain was 2 bad , wanted 2 do terrible things to myself last night on leg day , ended up only with so so workout , gonna start with the magnesium today.See what happens.

 

[supertech69]

How much calcium & magnesium is "loading up" refering to? I bought some last night as well.

 

[Parabellum]

I strated taking 1500 mgs a day split in three doses. I upped it to 2000 mgs yesterday and added salt to my diet for leg day and I got through the whole workout, just being a little sore. I haven't completed a back or leg workout in what seems like 3 months.

Mine got so bad that I had trouble walking, even short distances.

I read at gotfina that Fina causes this also but it is not as noticeable as dball.

 

[Mavy]

I believe that it is caused from water retention in your Erector Spinae. I get it at around 25mgs. Do not switch to drol, do not increase salt intake while on dbol. You can switch to winny, but that gives me pain in the joints, Anavar is where its at, if you can afford it. I still use dbol at the start of my cycle, only for 2-3 weeks though. Usually use Var for the last 4 weeks. Keep your dosages around 20mgs and you should be able to get through your workouts alright. Dbol is a very potent drug.

Mavy

 

[tiger88]

i dropped d bol early since it hurt my shins and couldnt run as fast at practice....yea and my back was a mess from d bol