smedium, it will shut you down, and some say it shuts you down harder than test. In my opinion it does. my first cycle of winstrol i drank it and it didn't shut me down to hard cause i was at 25-30mg/day for 6 weeks. But when i started hitting the 50mg/day 25mg am and 25mg pm for 8 weeks, that really shut me down. No sex drive during, no sex drive after untill i recouperated from pCT. I mean, you'll get it up, but you don't have much of a desire. I would always add a little test , but maybe if you add some proviron, you would be good and proviron is not so expensive