Dr. visit today

[ItalianSta]

I went cause my BP has been high 150/90 , and I have been getting headaches . I am on decca 400/sust500/prop100eod .I told him I was on Androstenedione and he freaked say your taking steroids! I told him they were legal and otc at gnc, LOL . Anyway he said my pressure was a little eliivated due to the increase of test from the ando and told me to get off it . He precribed me a painkiller for my headaches "I think generic it is called fiorpap? BUTALBITAL/ACETAMINOPHEN/CAFFINE anyone ever hear of it ? I am thinking of getting off the sust and decca fro now (beginning of week 4 ) and still doing the prop eod and maybe adding some of those 10mg Annavars . I have gained 25lbs in 4 weeks and I have liquidex coming in a couple of days . Should I add it in or should I call this cycle quits until bp is normal again . I have never had any bp problems .

 

[stretch]

Yeah, that blood pressure thing can kind of creep up on you. I remember one time when I was on a cycle and had to go to the doctor for a cold, the nurse took my blood pressure and freaked out! She looked at me and said "Are you okay!? You're blood pressure is extremely high!" I told her "Sure, I feel fine." I didn't know anything about what the numbers meant in determining my blood pressure, so I don't remember what they were. She checked my blood pressure again just to make sure she was correct the first time and sure enough she was. She said "Oh my! I can't believe you're just sitting there! You're about to stroke out!"

Without a doubt, the high blood pressure was caused from the gear I was on.

stretch

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

First of all, your BP is a little high, but not anything to panic over when on AS. Your on Test/Deca (which is just now kicking in) & I imagine you have some H20 retention. You should get a hold of some proviron or Arimidex and maybe try a diuretic for a few days at a time. Really, you should also have some winny for the last 5-6 weeks of your cycle also. Just keep an eye on it, drink a lot of H20 and watch your sodium intake. I would finish the cycle and disregard what your MD said, unless there is more to this story you haven't told us.

 

[40butpumpin]

Mr

Pimpn', If your bp is up with some consistency, even up then down like you see with gear, it will eventually stay up. So no one should just shrug off high bp just because you're on a cycle.

Stallion, Acetaminophen when taken together with alcohol will fuck up your liver. Also, caffeine tends to raise bp. So although I don't agree with Pimpn' about disregarding what the doc said, that med, IMHO, will definitely not help you. You're better of with plain ol' Ibuprofin. I've read studies that claim that besides being a great pain reliever it also has the added benefit of exagerating the effects of other drugs in your system. Kinda like the grapefruit effect.

hth

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

40,
I was referring to the advice about quitting his cycle. Also 150/90 or even higher should be expected if in the 4th week of a Sust/Deca cycle without anti-e's or p's. Nobody told him to shrug it off, I told him how to treat it. What do you want him to do, quit??!! He's gained 25 lbs, of course it is mostly H20, deal with the bloat and the BP will come down. Did you read my post?!

 

[2Thick]

Your dosages are too high and your doctor is an idiot. I assume he is a GP because he doesn't know anything about endocrinology.

In any case reduce your dosages to 200 deca and 250 sust and you will be fine. The liquidex will also do wonders.

 

[ROIDRANGER]

First of all, your BP is a little high, but not anything to panic over when on AS. Your on Test/Deca (which is just now kicking in) & I imagine you have some H20 retention.

You should get a hold of some proviron or Arimidex and maybe try a diuretic for a few days at a time

Just keep an eye on it, drink a lot of H20 and watch your sodium intake. I would finish the cycle and disregard what your MD said, unless there is more to this story you haven't told us.

you could drain some water retention you have by diuretic, proviron, or taking the arimidex you have...thes will help.....
....but id just clean your diet up some and watch the sodium and drink more water----i believe this will be the most effective and bring your BP down some to where you feel fine.....
...id stay on your current cycle and if your going to cut out anything id make it the test. prop.--cause it is the fastest ester--there sides are worst--and its probaly the culprit to your bp & problems....

 

[ItalianSta]

Thank you guys , kind of wha I wanted to hear . I do have proviron now . I thought about cutting it down some (doses) . I am loving my workouts these days !

 

[40butpumpin]

Mr

Pimpn', I actually made that as a general statement and not towards what you had in your post. I just re-read both and I realize it sounds much worse than I had intended it to be. Sorry for that. I do hear, however, many bro's taking bp lightly and justifying it because they are on a cycle. In my experience, if bp is up for too long, or to many times over a period of time, it tends to stay up and become a life-long problem.

 

[ElCORAZON]

I must agree..do not just blow off your elevated BP. The problem I do not understand is how some people that are using/abusing juice on the one hand constantly say that MDs don't know what we are talking about when it comes to anabolics, but on the other hand lie to us when they get sick. I guess medical school and residency should have taught me to guess what your problem is. Hell that would have saved most of us 3-6 years of training. Elevated blood pressures can lead to a host of other medical problems if it is uncontrolled. however, to have the diagnosis of hypertension most clinicians needs to check your BP on seperate occasions..for all you know you may have a family history and it is just now presenting itself. There are many reasons to have high BP, check it again...P.S. I do not think drinking more water will help..the low sodium diet willl. Good luck. And fioracet will do nothing for your BP..you may feel better but thats about it..and since your doc did not know you were on juice...he gave the the acetominophen which will further put a strain on your liver as was previously mentioned. Communicate with your doc..educate them. Not all of them read these posts like I do.

 

[stretch]

I must agree..do not just blow off your elevated BP. The problem I do not understand is how some people that are using/abusing juice on the one hand constantly say that MDs don't know what we are talking about when it comes to anabolics, but on the other hand lie to us when they get sick. I guess medical school and residency should have taught me to guess what your problem is. Hell that would have saved most of us 3-6 years of training. Elevated blood pressures can lead to a host of other medical problems if it is uncontrolled. however, to have the diagnosis of hypertension most clinicians needs to check your BP on seperate occasions..for all you know you may have a family history and it is just now presenting itself. There are many reasons to have high BP, check it again...P.S. I do not think drinking more water will help..the low sodium diet willl. Good luck. And fioracet will do nothing for your BP..you may feel better but thats about it..and since your doc did not know you were on juice...he gave the the acetominophen which will further put a strain on your liver as was previously mentioned. Communicate with your doc..educate them. Not all of them read these posts like I do.

Good advice, EICORAZON.

 

[40butpumpin]

Mr

Not only won't the water help, it may even exacerbate a bp problem. I've said this many times. The only way it will help is if your diet and health is such that you won't retain any of it. Highly unlikely for any of us. Drinking more water will increase the fluid volume in your arteries, thereby, increasing the pressure. I understand what people mean when they say why it helps but again, that's only valid under certain conditions.

 

[T Bone]

In any case reduce your dosages to 200 deca and 250 sust and you will be fine. The liquidex will also do wonders.

eee gads, ya might as well quit the cycle. Just fuckin with ya 2T. Nice lat spread btw.

 

[Veni-Vidi-Vici]

Good advice given so far....one thing that hasn't been mentioned is to make sure they are using the proper size BP cuff....if you have large arms a standard size cuff reading may be inaccurate. V3

 

[40butpumpin]

Mr

Yes, this has happened to me also on numerous occaisions (wrong cuff size giving innacurate readings).