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flexdaddyz71

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I got a physical yesterday and they did the normal stuff. The doctor called this morning and wanted me back in the office to draw blood because is Potassium is critically elevated. 6.5 whatever the hell that means. I just finished the hardest diet of my life two week ago/along the the Prop/Win/Tren cycle. I take in two to three protein shakes a day and DX7 supplements. Anyone got a clue???? BTW, everything else was fine (liver, kidneys,chol) my sodium was low.
 
flexdaddyz71 said:
I got a physical yesterday and they did the normal stuff. The doctor called this morning and wanted me back in the office to draw blood because is Potassium is critically elevated. 6.5 whatever the hell that means. I just finished the hardest diet of my life two week ago/along the the Prop/Win/Tren cycle. I take in two to three protein shakes a day and DX7 supplements. Anyone got a clue???? BTW, everything else was fine (liver, kidneys,chol) my sodium was low.

Cut and paste job below from Wikipaedia.

1st, are your kidneys working well? You drinking enough water?

Diagnosis
In order to gather enough information for diagnosis, the measurement of potassium needs to be repeated, as the elevation can be due to hemolysis in the first sample. The normal serum level of potassium is 3.5 to 5 mEq/L. Generally, blood tests for renal function (creatinine, blood urea nitrogen), glucose and occasionally creatine kinase and cortisol will be performed. Calculating the trans-tubular potassium gradient can sometimes help in distinguishing the cause of the hyperkalemia.

In many cases, renal ultrasound will be performed, since hyperkalemia is highly suggestive of renal failure.

Also, electrocardiography (EKG/ECG) may be performed to determine if there is a significant risk of cardiac arrhythmias (see ECG/EKG Findings, below).


[edit] Differential diagnosis
Causes include:


[edit] Ineffective elimination from the body
Renal insufficiency
Medication that interferes with urinary excretion:
ACE inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers
Potassium-sparing diuretics (e.g. amiloride and spironolactone)
NSAIDs such as ibuprofen, naproxen, or celecoxib
The calcineurin inhibitor immunosuppressants ciclosporin and tacrolimus
The antibiotic trimethoprim
The antiparasitic drug pentamidine
Mineralocorticoid deficiency or resistance, such as:
Addison's disease
Aldosterone deficiency, including reduced levels due to the blood thinner, heparin
Some forms of congenital adrenal hyperplasia
Type IV renal tubular acidosis (resistance of renal tubules to aldosterone)
Gordon's syndrome (“familial hypertension with hyperkalemia”), a rare genetic disorder caused by defective modulators of salt transporters, including the thiazide-sensitive Na-Cl cotransporter.

[edit] Excessive release from cells
Rhabdomyolysis, burns or any cause of rapid tissue necrosis, including tumor lysis syndrome
Massive blood transfusion or massive hemolysis
Shifts/transport out of cells caused by acidosis, low insulin levels, beta-blocker therapy, digoxin overdose, or the paralyzing anesthetic succinylcholine

[edit] Excessive intake
Intoxication with salt-substitute, potassium-containing dietary supplements, or potassium chloride (KCl) infusion. Note that for a person with normal kidney function and nothing interfering with normal elimination (see above), hyperkalemia by potassium intoxication would be seen only with large infusions of KCl or massive doses of oral KCl supplements.

[edit] Lethal injection
Hyperkalemia is intentionally brought about in an execution by lethal injection, potassium chloride being the third and last of the three drugs generally administered to cause death, after sodium thiopental has rendered the subject unconscious, then pancuronium bromide has been added to cause respiratory collapse.


[edit] Pseudohyperkalemia
Pseudohyperkalemia is a rise in the amount of potassium that occurs due to excessive leakage of potassium from cells, during or after blood is drawn. It is a laboratory artifact rather than a biological abnormality and can be misleading to caregivers.[1] Pseudohyperkalemia is typically caused by hemolysis during venipuncture (by either excessive vacuum of the blood draw or by a syringe needle that is of too fine a gauge); excessive tournequet time or fist clenching during phlebotomy (which presumably leads to efflux of potassium from the muscle cells into the bloodstream);[2] or by a delay in the processing of the blood specimen. It can also occur in specimens from patients with abnormally high numbers of platelets (>1,000,000/mm³), leukocytes (> 100 000/mm³), or erythrocytes (hematocrit > 55%). People with "leakier" cell membranes have been found, whose blood must be separated immediately to avoid pseudohyperkalemia.[3]


[edit] Pathophysiology
Potassium is the most abundant intracellular cation. It is critically important for many physiologic processes, including maintenance of cellular membrane potential, homeostasis of cell volume, and transmission of action potentials in nerve cells. Its main dietary sources are vegetables (tomato and potato), fruits (orange and banana) and meat. Elimination is through the gastrointestinal tract and the kidney.

The renal elimination of potassium is passive (through the glomeruli), and resorption is active in the proximal tubule and the ascending limb of the loop of Henle. There is active excretion of potassium in the distal tubule and the collecting duct; both are controlled by aldosterone.

Hyperkalemia develops when there is excessive production (oral intake, tissue breakdown) or ineffective elimination of potassium. Ineffective elimination can be hormonal (in aldosterone deficiency) or due to causes in the renal parenchyma that impair excretion.

Increased extracellular potassium levels result in depolarization of the membrane potentials of cells. This depolarization opens some voltage-gated sodium channels, but not enough to generate an action potential. After a short while, the open sodium channels inactivate and become refractory, increasing the threshold to generate an action potential. This leads to the impairment of neuromuscular, cardiac, and gastrointestinal organ systems. Of most concern is the impairment of cardiac conduction which can result in ventricular fibrillation or asystole.

During extreme exercise, potassium is released from active muscle and the serum potassium rises to a point that would be dangerous at rest. For unclear reasons, it appears as if the high levels of adrenaline and noradrenaline have a protective effect on the cardiac electrophysiology.[4]

Patients with the rare hereditary condition of hyperkalemic periodic paralysis appear to have a heightened sensitivity of muscular symptoms that are associated with transient elevation of potassium levels. Episodes of muscle weakness and spasms can be precipitated by exercise or fasting in these subjects.


[edit] ECG findings
With mild to moderate hyperkalemia, there is reduction of the size of the P wave and development of peaked T waves. Severe hyperkalemia results in a widening of the QRS complex, and the EKG complex can evolve to a sinusoidal shape. There appears to be a direct effect of elevated potassium on some of the potassium channels that increases their activity and speeds membrane repolarization. Also, (as noted above), hyperkalemia causes an overall membrane depolarization that inactivates many sodium channels. The faster repolarization of the cardiac action potential causes the tenting of the T waves, and the inactivation of sodium channels causes a sluggish conduction of the electrical wave around the heart, which leads to smaller P waves and widening of the QRS complex.


[edit] Treatment
When arrhythmias occur, or when potassium levels exceed 6.5 mmol/l, emergency lowering of potassium levels is mandated. Several agents are used to lower K levels. Choice depends on the degree and cause of the hyperkalemia, and other aspects of the patient's condition.

Calcium supplementation (calcium gluconate 10% (10ml), preferably through a central venous catheter as the calcium may cause phlebitis) does not lower potassium but decreases myocardial excitability, protecting against life threatening arrhythmias.
Insulin (e.g. intravenous injection of 10-15u of regular insulin {along with 50ml of 50% dextrose to prevent hypoglycemia}) will lead to a shift of potassium ions into cells, secondary to increased activity of the sodium-potassium ATPase.
Bicarbonate therapy (e.g. 1 ampule (45mEq) infused over 5 minutes) is effective in cases of metabolic acidosis. The bicarbonate ion will stimulate an exchange of cellular H+ for Na+, thus leading to stimulation of the sodium-potassium ATPase.
Salbutamol (albuterol, Ventolin) is a β2-selective catecholamine that is administered by nebulizer (e.g. 10-20 mg). This drug promotes movement of K into cells, lowering the blood levels.
Polystyrene sulfonate (Calcium Resonium, Kayexalate) is a binding resin that binds K within the intestine and removes it from the body by defecation. Calcium Resonium (15g three times a day in water) can be given by mouth. Kayexelate can be given by mouth or as an enema. In both cases, the resin absorbs K within the intestine and carries it out of the body by defecation. This medication may cause diarrhea.
Refractory or severe cases may need dialysis to remove the potassium from the circulation.
Preventing recurrence of hyperkalemia typically involves reduction of dietary potassium, removal of an offending medication, and/or the addition of a diuretic (such as furosemide (Lasix) or hydrochlorothiazide).

[edit] See also
Hypokalemia
Renal failure

[edit] External links
National Kidney Foundation site on potassium content of foods

[edit] References
^ Sevastos N et al. (2006) Pseudohyperkalemia in serum: the phenomenon and its clinical magnitude. J Lab Clin Med, 147(3):139-44; PMID 16503244.
^ Don BR et al. (1990) Pseudohyperkalemia caused by fist clenching during phlebotomy. N Engl J Med, 322(18):1290-2; PMID 2325722.
^ Iolascon A et al. (1999) Familial pseudohyperkalemia maps to the same locus as dehydrated hereditary stomatocytosis. Blood, 93(9):3120-3; PMID 10216110.
^ Lindinger MI (1995) Potassium Regulation During Exercise and Recovery in Humans: Implications for Skeletal and Cardiac Muscle. J Mol Cell Cardiology, 27(4):1011-22; PMID 7563098.
Schaefer TJ, Wolford RW (2005). Disorders of potassium. Emerg Med Clin North Am, 23(3), 723-47; PMID 15982543.
Kasper DL et al (Eds). Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine, 16th ed, chapter 41, pages 258-61; ISBN 0-07-140235-7.
Rose, B.D. and T.W. Post, Clinical Physiology of Acid-Base and Electrolyte Disorders, 5th ed. 2001, pages 888-930; ISBN 0-07-134682-1.
 
Good luck with everything, have not had personal experience with this but found this:

The effects of elevated potassium levels are related to the health of your heart. When potassium stays in your blood because your kidneys aren't filtering it out, you may experience weakness accompanied by an irregular heartbeat. This condition, called hyperkalemia, can be detected with an electrocardiogram after you exhibit symptoms.

Potassium is a substance essential to your body. A mineral in nature, potassium is considered an electrolyte. Electrolytes are charged particles, containing ions, whose tiny electrical charge helps to send messages through your nerves. Therefore, either elevated or lowered levels of potassium will affect your nervous system by sending innacurate signals, sometimes resulting in paralysis.

Elevated potassium levels have the effects of numerous uncomfortable and possibly dangerous symptoms. You may feel tired and weak or have difficulty moving your digits or limbs due to mild paralysis. Continued hyperkalemia can lead to a disrupted heartbeat called arrhythmia. Arrhythmia should be corrected as soon as possible.

Secondary results from elevated potassium levels relate to the hydration and energy of cells. Potassium also keeps cells from getting dehydrated and helps convert carbohydrates into glucose. The crucial electrolyte gets transported within red blood cells, which are then circulated in the bloodstream.

Strangely, it is easy to obtain inaccurate measurements of your blood potassium levels. It's very likely that your blood sample has been "hemolyzed," where the pressure of drawing blood into a vial or syringe breaks open the delicate walls of red blood cells. These cells leak their concentrated amounts of potassium into the plasma and other parts of blood, so hemolyzation will give false high potassium readings. For this reason, elevated potassium levels may be difficult to determine without further medical attention.

You may have elevated potassium levels if you suffer from Addison's Disease or diabetes. An elevated reading may also indicate that you have irregular levels of aldosterone, since that hormone controls potassium. Usually, we keep very consistent levels of potassium thanks to our filtering kidneys. Therefore, a kidney infection or renal failure can create elevated potassium levels. Dietary supplements that include potassium can only worsen an already unhealthy situation, but cannot be toxic by themselves.
 
jcdc71 said:
Good luck with everything, have not had personal experience with this but found this:

The effects of elevated potassium levels are related to the health of your heart. When potassium stays in your blood because your kidneys aren't filtering it out, you may experience weakness accompanied by an irregular heartbeat. This condition, called hyperkalemia, can be detected with an electrocardiogram after you exhibit symptoms.

Potassium is a substance essential to your body. A mineral in nature, potassium is considered an electrolyte. Electrolytes are charged particles, containing ions, whose tiny electrical charge helps to send messages through your nerves. Therefore, either elevated or lowered levels of potassium will affect your nervous system by sending innacurate signals, sometimes resulting in paralysis.

Elevated potassium levels have the effects of numerous uncomfortable and possibly dangerous symptoms. You may feel tired and weak or have difficulty moving your digits or limbs due to mild paralysis. Continued hyperkalemia can lead to a disrupted heartbeat called arrhythmia. Arrhythmia should be corrected as soon as possible.

Secondary results from elevated potassium levels relate to the hydration and energy of cells. Potassium also keeps cells from getting dehydrated and helps convert carbohydrates into glucose. The crucial electrolyte gets transported within red blood cells, which are then circulated in the bloodstream.

Strangely, it is easy to obtain inaccurate measurements of your blood potassium levels. It's very likely that your blood sample has been "hemolyzed," where the pressure of drawing blood into a vial or syringe breaks open the delicate walls of red blood cells. These cells leak their concentrated amounts of potassium into the plasma and other parts of blood, so hemolyzation will give false high potassium readings. For this reason, elevated potassium levels may be difficult to determine without further medical attention.

You may have elevated potassium levels if you suffer from Addison's Disease or diabetes. An elevated reading may also indicate that you have irregular levels of aldosterone, since that hormone controls potassium. Usually, we keep very consistent levels of potassium thanks to our filtering kidneys. Therefore, a kidney infection or renal failure can create elevated potassium levels. Dietary supplements that include potassium can only worsen an already unhealthy situation, but cannot be toxic by themselves.

The abbreviated version of what I posted.....Much Better.
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Did you fast before having blood drawn? I didn't and it threw off ALL of my blood levels, including elevated potassium levels.

Which way did it throw off your levels on the plus side or the the negative side?

I was supposed to fast for my blood test, and the tech took off somewhere in the morning. I was told to come back. I was hungry as hell and had to eat something. I am hoping it only threw off my cholesterol, but it may have thrown off a lot of other stuff.

Does it screw up your readings on Testosterone? Anyone know?
 
Caleb's Tree said:
Which way did it throw off your levels on the plus side or the the negative side?

I was supposed to fast for my blood test, and the tech took off somewhere in the morning. I was told to come back. I was hungry as hell and had to eat something. I am hoping it only threw off my cholesterol, but it may have thrown off a lot of other stuff.

Does it screw up your readings on Testosterone? Anyone know?


test. levels wont have a huge decrease with fasting just slight.

I have heard to lower test levels ( for testing purposes ) to not sleep the night before and also to drink alcohol night before. Those two usually go hand in hand anyway.


I also saw this Flexdaddy
It could be alot of reasons. Depends on how high your potassium level was.....and if your doctor was concerned.

Kidney problems such as retention or failure could cause your K+ to be high. I wouldn't say dietary reasons would cause your high level unless you had problems with your kidneys because the body releases what potassium that it doesn't need.

Now...on the other side. Did they have a hard time sticking you? If they probed in your arm or hemolyzed your blood sample...this could cause a false high level.
 
Caleb's Tree said:
Which way did it throw off your levels on the plus side or the the negative side?

I was supposed to fast for my blood test, and the tech took off somewhere in the morning. I was told to come back. I was hungry as hell and had to eat something. I am hoping it only threw off my cholesterol, but it may have thrown off a lot of other stuff.

Does it screw up your readings on Testosterone? Anyone know?

B-12 was through the roof, normal range is between 271-870 mine was 961. Creatine normal range is between 8-22 mine was 35. My doctor told me eating will NOT affect your cholesterol, immediately.

It does not inhibit results for your testosterone.
 
jcdc71 said:
test. levels wont have a huge decrease with fasting just slight.

I have heard to lower test levels ( for testing purposes ) to not sleep the night before and also to drink alcohol night before. Those two usually go hand in hand anyway.


I also saw this Flexdaddy
It could be alot of reasons. Depends on how high your potassium level was.....and if your doctor was concerned.

Kidney problems such as retention or failure could cause your K+ to be high. I wouldn't say dietary reasons would cause your high level unless you had problems with your kidneys because the body releases what potassium that it doesn't need.

Now...on the other side. Did they have a hard time sticking you? If they probed in your arm or hemolyzed your blood sample...this could cause a false high level.

So if I have to get tested again, I should drink all night and stay up till dawn and that will artificially lower my test levels? Not a bad idea, if it's true.
 
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