Dostinex for Deca & Tren?

[funkyfresh]

Hey guys,

Just read an interesting article by Anthony Roberts on Dostinex.

It basiclly states that at doses of 0.25 - 0.5mg twice a week, it can minimise the suppression from Nandralones and Trenbolone based AAS?

I just wondered how effective this actually is?

I know a lot of guys won't touch deca, especially on it's own without test, because of the possibility of "deca dick" and the libido issue.

But it would seem that Dostinex would be effective at reducing this to a certain degree.
Obviously, if you were to take Tren or Deca on it's own even with Dostinex you would still suffer some HTPA suppression as you would with any other AAS, but I've heard that it's the prolactin which is the main issue with these meds in terms of shut down.

 

[halfcenturian]

True. You should use it with the Nor's:Tren, Deca. .50 E4D, but no more.
Makes you horny. Improves and intensifies orgasims. NO SHIT! It's great stuff.
Use in place of Nolva for those two AAS.

 

[Nelson Montana]

True. You should use it with the Nor's:trenbolone, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - . .50 E4D, but no more.
Makes you horny. Improves and intensifies orgasims. NO SHIT! It's great stuff.
Use in place of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - for those two anabolic androgenic steroids.

I believe it alleviates some symptoms but doesn't directly cure the problem per se. Then again, if it works, it works. I'd also add DEFINITION to control bloat. Better yet, I'd just avoid Decca.

 

[funkyfresh]

I know you're not a fan of Deca Nelson and TBH, I can understand why.

There are a lot of newer, more potent alternatives and the side effects aren't as straighforward as things like Test.

But there are some guys, myself included, who might want to stick with more anabolic drugs or don't tolerate heavy androgenic drugs very well and deca seems to be like a fairly reasonable alternative.

There are actually some additional benefits aswell such as increased collegen sythesis, no DHT issues to contend with, aromatizes much slower and binds very well to the AR's.

The main issue does seem to stem from it's prolactin activity. If you could reduce this or stop it, then I think it's a viable alernative.

Would you guys recommend running an anti E such as adex or aromasin along with the Dostinex?

Do you have experience with Dostinex HalfCenturian?

 

[halfcenturian]

I know you're not a fan of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - Nelson and TBH, I can understand why.

There are a lot of newer, more potent alternatives and the side effects aren't as straighforward as things like Test.

But there are some guys, myself included, who might want to stick with more anabolic drugs or don't tolerate heavy androgenic drugs very well and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - seems to be like a fairly reasonable alternative.

There are actually some additional benefits aswell such as increased collegen sythesis, no dihydrotestosterone issues to contend with, aromatizes much slower and binds very well to the AR's.

The main issue does seem to stem from it's prolactin activity. If you could reduce this or stop it, then I think it's a viable alernative.

Would you guys recommend running an anti E such as Arimidex - anastrozole - or aromasin along with the Dostinex?

Do you have experience with Dostinex HalfCenturian?

Yes. 4 cycles, as well as, my current cycle which does include - yes- Deca.
Dostinex and Adex will help, and/or eliminate bloat the dreaded Deca Dick.

I love Deca because it helps my joints and the gains stick around. Run it with
Test and Dbol for an old fashioned, low sides, minimal hairloss, strength/ bulk cycle.
Right now I'm on a bread and butter bulker: 500 Test E, 300 Deca, 40 mg Dbol, .25mg Adex/ ED, .50mg Dostinex E3D. I would not run Deca without Dostinex. Also on 5mg Proscar/ ED for hair and prostate support.

 

[Varga]

Dostinex works well with d e c a. Used it a few times and it increased sexual pleasure for sure and better mood. Also done d e c a without dostinex and had no gyno issues either at 500-600mg EW if I remember right but the sex drive was lower. For some with gyno issues I would use it for sure

 

[nydj66]

A dopamine agonist like dotinex will lower prolacting levels which are elevated while taking a progestin like trenbolone or nandrolone. This will alleviate prolactin symptoms like loss of libido, erectile disfunction. and prolonged HPTA recovery.

However, stimulation of the progesterone receptors can also cause gyno which will not be affected by dostinex.

 

[halfcenturian]

A dopamine agonist like dotinex will lower prolacting levels which are elevated while taking a progestin like trenbolone or nandrolone. This will alleviate prolactin symptoms like loss of libido, erectile disfunction. and prolonged hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - recovery.

However, stimulation of the progesterone receptors can also cause gynecomastia which will not be affected by dostinex.

That's what the Adex is in there for.

 

[chris69]

That's what the Arimidex - anastrozole - is in there for.

Hold on a minute, What the hell have i been reading all this crap about PROG..Gyno and using Dos/B-6 ect... for then.. if thats not right then what do i need on hand for Tren gyno ? Dos.. insnt cheap shit so i can't be ordering things that are incorrect ! i cant beleive the PROG..PCT is 3x more expensive that SERMS & anti-e's, WTF !

 

[halfcenturian]

Dost. is for prolactin build up. Milk tits and sexdrive. Also will helps to some degree with gyno. But you should Also be taking Adex/Aromasin or Letro. Avoid Nolva.

 

[Varga]

Hold on a minute, What the hell have i been reading all this crap about PROG..gynecomastia and using Dos/B-6 ect... for then.. if thats not right then what do i need on hand for trenbolone gynecomastia ? Dos.. insnt cheap shit so i can't be ordering things that are incorrect ! i cant beleive the PROG..PCT - post cycle therapy - is 3x more expensive that SERMS & anti-e's, WTF !

Prog gyno is not crap bro, it's real.....one of my buddies had 2 surgeries because of de c a use. He was not a stupid dude but about 10 years or so ago he did not know about the progesterone problems ....and to make matters worse he took nolva also which made the issue uncontrolable..... just take some a-dex and dostinex when you do de ca or t r e n.

The problem is that some ppl have no issues with progesterone and do not need dostinex but some guys grow tits faster than a 13 year old girl...LOL.
Try it without dostinex but just have some on hand, if you good with no prob then you don't take it

 

[chris69]

Dostinex - cabergoline - . is for prolactin build up. Milk tits and sexdrive. Also will helps to some degree with gynecomastia. But you should Also be taking Arimidex - anastrozole - /Aromasin or Femera - letrozole - . Avoid Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - .

Half : if Tren does not aromitize , then why would we need to run a AI like femera ect...... ?

 

[josenunes]

AI`s are useless with deca, the aromataze enzyme don't interact with deca , gyno comes from a different pathway, as for dostinex I believe it can help with deca dick but not with the htpa shutdown so hcg still needed to keep the boys in shape

 

[nydj66]

aromatase inhibitor`s are useless with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , the aromataze enzyme don't interact with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , gynecomastia comes from a different pathway, as for dostinex I believe it can help with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - dick but not with the htpa shutdown so HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - still needed to keep the boys in shape

Not entirely true.

Nandrolone decanoate does aromatize to estrogen and an aromatase inhibitor will prevent that. However, the A-I will do nothing to prevent dec-A from stimulating progesterone receptors.

Trenbolone is the 19-nortestosterone derivative that does not aromatize so it cannot form estrogen.

 

[josenunes]

Not entirely true.

Nandrolone decanoate does aromatize to estrogen and an aromatase inhibitor will prevent that. However, the A-I will do nothing to prevent dec-A from stimulating progesterone receptors.

Trenbolone is the 19-nortestosterone derivative that does not aromatize so it cannot form estrogen.

Sorry bro you`re right , nandrolone in higher doses can bring some aromatization problems, my mistake sorry again...

 

[Cryptlord]

Bump... any more input on lowering prolactin to make recovery easier?

 

[todoveritas]

Guys. Check the research. While Dostinex DOES help libido, it will do nothing for Progesterone-induced gyno and the evidence is minimal (at best) that prolactin is responsible for any form of gyno. If you are worried about DD or gyno with D3ca, you need to be just as worried (or even more so) with using Tr3n. BOTH stimulate progestins. BTW, you DO NOT need to run AI's with Tr3n.

 

[todoveritas]

Sorry bro you`re right , nandrolone in higher doses can bring some aromatization problems, my mistake sorry again...

You are right. It is typically quoted that its aromatization potential is 20% of test. But almost nobody does high D3ca only cycles (they were in vogue in the 80's) anymore and since everyone typically runs high test ( 2:1 ratio of t3st to D3ca), they should be on AI's anyway.