Here's my previous post with stats and proposed plan...
Looking for personal opinions and experiences with Test and deca for a bulking cycle. I have had great results adding lean mass and cutting fat on test/tren in the past. My personal stats are:
35yo, 240, 16%bf, healthy diet at about 3000cal a day macros being 55% carb, 35% Protein, and 15% fat. I workout on a 3day split 5-6 days a week.
Been off the weights for about a month now and was suggested I jumpstart with a little dbol for a couple weeks with test then move on to the deca.
dbol-50mg a day for 2 weeks with Test Cyp at 500mg a week.
On week three, switiching the dbol out to deca 300mg a week with test cyp at 500mg for 8-10 weeks.
I plan on running an e blocker probably Nolvadex (open to other reccomendations) throughout the cycle and PCT with hcg.
Any suggestions or adjustments to the dosages or any opinions and experiences with similiar stacks???
Thanks
If you are worried about gyno then like Nelson said, deca is not for you.... If you have access to Primo then you could run a bulk cycle with that. I don't have any experience with gyno but I know for a fact that you should not use Nolvadex in a deca cycle. Do a search on it and you will find why in the forum. As mentioned above if you are planning on running deca despite the danger of gyno then Forma-stanzol is a great option for you. You can get it from MrSupps. I am currently using it and have noticed a drop in water weight as well as a more definitive line at the bottom of the pecs so I know that it works as an AI and possibly to prevent progesterone induced gyno which you would get from something like deca. Granted Nolva is the best for gyno but it's a no/no with deca.
If while on your cycle you notice that the AI properties of Forma are not strong enough then you should have either Aromasin or Adex on hand and use one of those along side the Forma. I'm sure you know the symptoms of gyno since you've had it before but during your cycle, if at any point you start to get sensative nips then you need to start using Aromasin immediately.
I also noticed that you will be running hcg during this cycle and i have to applaud you for that but you have to be careful at running this at too high of a dose b/c this can also cause gyno. If I were you i wouldn't use any more than 250iu 2X per wk from wk 2 until a week after your last Test shot.
Also dbol isn't gonna do much for you if you are only running it for a couple weeks bro.... You really need to bump that up to 4wks. BUT AGAIN this is another steroid known to cause gyno so I might just stick with the injectibles if I were you. For somebody who is sensitive to gyno you sure picked some dangerous compounds...
With that said, what I suggest you do is this:
On cycle:
Dbol - wk 1-4
Test Cyp - 500mg/wk (split into 2 injections) wk 1-10
Deca - 200mg/wk (split into 2 injections) wk 1-8
hcg - 250iu 2X per wk, wk 2-11
Forma - 10 to 15 pumps a day, wk 1 into PCT
Aromasin - Only use if you get sensa nips... @12.5mg/day
PCT:
Clomid - 50mg/day, wk 1-4
Forma - 10 pumps/day, wk 1-6
Unleashed - 6 caps per day morning/night split, wk 1-6
You diet is questionable as well...at 16% bf you should definitely cut down on carbs in you 55/35/15 split. It should be more like 45/40/20 and while you are on your cycle you should definitely bump up the calories per day but a significant amount. Deca will make you more hungry than you've ever been so it shouldn't be problem to get your intake. Deca also responds very well to carbs on a bulking diet so you could do about 50% carbs if you want while on cycle. If you don't wanna worry about the carbs you eat turning into fat then you can check out a product called
Need2Slin which I just invested in my self. Take it before a big meal or shake and shuttle all the carbs to your muscles with the insulin sensitivity it will give you.
I know this is a lot of information but I want to help you out bro. I am by no means a professional, I just do a lot of reading so this is just one man's
opinion. Post what you plan to do so more people can chime in for advise.
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