Don't waste your injectable Winny!

[Cuts]

Undoubtebly, people will disagree with me, but IMHO, for site injecting/local growth, Winstrol Depot WORKS. I personally don't understand why anyone would choose not to take advantage of this unique attribute of Winstrol by drinking it or injecting it in the glutes or quads. I've been consistantly poking each of my bis with a 1/2 cc of Zambon Winny Depot every 3 days for the past 8 weeks. I poke right before my bi workouts and it helps to lessen the next day soreness. Well, my arms have gotten MUCH bigger. I went out a couple weeks ago, and I put on a shirt that I hadn't worn in a while... the sleeves were so tight that it felt like they were cutting of circulation to my arms! Yep, Winny site injecting is BADASS.

 

[koen]

I experienced the same thing, I injected in triceps and biceps and my arms grew noticably. But I will be drinking it next time. This, because the gains were only temporaily.

 

[LewdTenant]

Were you guys doing winny only cycles when doing site injections?

 

[Cuts]

Nope. I personally think Winny sucks when used alone. I've used it w/ Deca once, and with Primo once.

 

[cockdezl]

CUTS, come back 2-3 weeks after your cycle and tell us how much arm size you retained. The size increase is most likely muscular irritation, since you are injecting a crystalline suspension into the fibers. It is similar to Esiclene.

 

[The Iron Game]

Why is everyone recommending the tabs? I was under the impression that injectables are always superior to orals due to their avoiding the liver? Aren't, then, the injectibles inherently safer since they don't put a strain on the liver?

Are you sure site injection enhancement is the only reason you are injecting winny

lol

 

[Cuts]

Are you sure site injection enhancement is the only reason you are injecting winny

lol

lol - Well Iron, that is ONE of the reasons. I posted a response to your post on the other Winny thread just now.

 

[The Iron Game]

I know it is cuts, but it is not true, just because you inject winstrol rather than taking it orally it is just as bad as if you were using the tabs. It still remains a c17aa steroid

 

[Cuts]

I'm right behind you Iron!!!

I know it is cuts, but it is not true, just because you inject winstrol rather than taking it orally it is just as bad as if you were using the tabs. It still remains a c17aa steroid

I disagree. Why? See other Winny post .

 

[The Iron Game]

I am sorry you disagree Cuts, ask any of the moderators, scientists, chemists and vets. Any one will tell you that winny, anadrol and dbol, whether in liquid form and injected or taken orally it remains just as damaging to the liver.

Do you think that if you inject it you wont have problems but if you take it orally then all of a sudden you have a c17aa causing problems?

Chemically they have the exact same make up.

off to your other post, later

 

[MadCow1]

Injection or not - substance remains the same. You only bypass the digestive system. It will still be in your blood and hit liver/kidney.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Being 17aa,it makes no difference the route of administration,it will be passed through multiple times and ultimately metabolized by the liver.This is the process by which this substance is broken down in the body,and it makes very little difference how it's administered,it still goes through the same enzymatic processes...

 

[Cuts]

CUTS, come back 2-3 weeks after your cycle and tell us how much arm size you retained. The size increase is most likely muscular irritation, since you are injecting a crystalline suspension into the fibers. It is similar to Esiclene.

Hmmm... I find that somewhat hard to believe considering that with the size increase came a significant STRENGTH increase too. I don't think that "muscular irritation" would make the muscle stronger, do you?

 

[CPA]

hey Cuts, just curious, what size pins are you using for the winney in the bi's. CPA.

 

[cockdezl]

"Hmmm... I find that somewhat hard to believe considering that with the size increase came a significant STRENGTH increase too. I don't think that "muscular irritation" would make the muscle stronger, do you?"

CUTS, strength is a variable that increases with steroid use. Are you using any other steroids in your cycle? It would be difficult to ascribe the strength increase to the stanazolol, along with the fact that strength increases are influenced by many factors, aside from the drugs.

 

[The Iron Game]

CUTS, strength is a variable that increases with steroid use. Are you using any other steroids in your cycle? It would be difficult to ascribe the strength increase to the stanazolol, along with the fact that strength increases are influenced by many factors, aside from the drugs.

Nope. I personally think Winny sucks when used alone. I've used it w/ Deca once, and with Primo once.

Nuff Said

Btw Cockdezl, I dont ever remember mentioning how much knowledge you have and what an asset you are to the board. You should try and express your view a little more frequently if you have some free time on your hands. You teach many things. Am I an Ass Kisser? No. Can I respect and appreciate the non bs biased info you provide? Yes

 

[Cuts]

hey Cuts, just curious, what size pins are you using for the winney in the bi's. CPA.

I'm using 1/2 inch 27G pins. Still hurts, but it's worth it.

 

[Cuts]

Iron Game:

I get the feeling I'm being patronized here. I may not be a veteran when it comes to AS use, and I may not know as much about AS as a lot of you guys on this board, but I that doesn't mean that I'm always wrong. FYI, the statement I made earlier about the size increase being accompanied by a significant strength increase did take into account other variables (i.e. other AS). My first cycle consisted of Deca and Winny for 8 weeks. I grew and got stronger, but my bis (one of my weaker points) remained relatively unchanged in both size and strength. My second Deca-Winny cycle is when I started to site inject into my bis. I used basically the same dosages, and all the other factors were just about equal also. I GOT LOCAL GROWTH. Iron, you're making it sound like local growth is a myth b/c you say it is. Period. It is a fact. You are right and I am wrong. This isn't a very scientific opinion. The only way we could REALLY determine the effectivity of site injections is to conduct a rigorous, stringent study including a large # of subjects, both positive and negative controls, unbias experimenters, and probably a whole host of other miscallaneous additions. This is the ONLY way one could with definity say whether or not site injecting works or not. Your opinion is that it doesn't. Mine is that it does. Later.

 

[Fonz]

IG, hehe......funny stuff

I agree with the Cockedzl thing too. He seems to just come
and go then fade away. It would be great if he would post
more regularly.

Cuts, by injecting a C17-aa steroids, you by-pass the active
steroid molecule from being metabolized by the liver on
the first pass. This yields a 3-7% reduction in the effectiveness
of the Stanozolol.
Moral of the story: Take an extra 5mg tab/day. Why would you
want to feel like a pin-cushion all day? Not to mention the
scar tissue issue.

Godspeed

 

[Cuts]

So Fonz, what's you're opinion on site injecting and local growth with Winny Depot?

 

[The Iron Game]

Me Patronize? Never

Hey buddy, we are all here to learn and if you believe or feel I have been patronizing then I appologise.

I do actually believe in site injections, but I do not believe they are permanent. I dont see why anyone would want to shoot winnt eod into a bicep or tricep. But each to their own

 

[Jeff_rys]

There's Winny and there's Winny

Most guys use Winny V and since this clogges they have to use a thick needle. That is the mean reason for drinking the Winny. It is hard to get it through the needle.
As for you Cuts, why in the name of god do you use a 27 gauge. Winstrol Depot (Zambon) goes through ANY needle. When i use a 30 gauge and push it in, sometimes to fast so it hurts a bit, i have to slow down the injection speed. Even with a 31/32 you could do the trick.
The only thing the Zambon needs is to be well shaking before use.

 

[fczeuner]

With Winny being a c17-aa steriod, it seems to me the muscle would not have any way of using the site injected steriod with out first passing through the liver.

It would seem the strength increase is from the steriod being metabolize throught the liver. This increase in strength would have been realized even if you had drank it or injected it in any muscle.

 

[repman]

Injectible for my cows

My cows have always gotten much better results when the winny was injected. Oral winny is not as effective in my experience.

 

[Jeff_rys]

am i wrong ?

the Winny gets broken down in the liver. Since injected it is already in the bloodstream.

 

[Cuts]

Re: Me Patronize? Never

Hey buddy, we are all here to learn and if you believe or feel I have been patronizing then I appologise.

I do actually believe in site injections, but I do not believe they are permanent. I dont see why anyone would want to shoot winnt eod into a bicep or tricep. But each to their own

No apoligies necessary big Iron, thanks for enlightening me with the info you contributed... I learn something new from this board everyday! Take care.