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Don't Get Scammed!!

I agree but sometimes you can't trust the mods either!!!

Alot have vested intrest with sources....


So my advice do your own research, USE you brain and make a good deal...
 
I agree, the more research you do the better off you will be.

You can never be too careful, especially when it deals with money.
 
djregs said:
wow, wonder why your post hasn't been deleted yet jay.

dj-
It will ne I'm sure, the truth hurts those that LIE!!!!!!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who understands this
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When buying gear, or anything over the net, Don't trust people they will scam you anyway that they can think.

Just use your head be a smart business man and go for it smartly!
 
BigJay81 said:

It will ne I'm sure, the truth hurts those that LIE!!!!!!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who understands this
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When buying gear, or anything over the net, Don't trust people they will scam you anyway that they can think.

Just use your head be a smart business man and go for it smartly!

I agree with ya bigjay...Honestly..you can never be to careful in this game

M18
 
I just want this to be know,,,,,, Alot of the mods here are GREAT people on and off the board!!!!!!!!!

Only a few ruin it.


To the good ones you know who you are!!!!!!!!

Keep up the good work
 
BigJay81 said:
I agree but sometimes you can't trust the mods either!!!

Alot have vested intrest with sources....


So my advice do your own research, USE you brain and make a good deal...
this board should be like 2nd family..we r all here for the same common interest..& watch out for each other in any way we can..so to think sum1 who is supposed to watch over u and do ur source checks(mods) cant actually be trusted..?? hmm im sad now
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BigJay81 said:
I just want this to be know,,,,,, Alot of the mods here are GREAT people on and off the board!!!!!!!!!

Only a few ruin it.


To the good ones you know who you are!!!!!!!!

Keep up the good work

agree but since it was only ONE mod and the the prob has been fixed up from what I've heard I still trust the others.......
 
guccianqel said:

this board should be like 2nd family..we r all here for the same common interest..& watch out for each other in any way we can..so to think sum1 who is supposed to watch over u and do ur source checks(mods) cant actually be trusted..?? hmm im sad now
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All the mods here are all very trustworthy as far as I know and you should have no problems but e-mail a couple of them in case we have not heard of someone and just to be on the safe side of things as you can never be to careful

M18
 
manny78 said:


agree but since it was only ONE mod and the the prob has been fixed up from what I've heard I still trust the others.......

Trust is a major thing in liffe don't give it away to easy to people who have never seen.


And 2Thick you know I'm not talking about you:p
Your my favorite mod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if that means anything.lol
 
I'm total agree w/BigJ!
Use your brain and check mods carefully!
Ask always more than 2-3mods and vets.
More you ask,more you can have an idea about a source.
 
Listen here 2Thick and listen well, I will get scammed by whomever I like whenever I like!!!!! In fact, I think I'm going to hand the next stranger I meet in the streets $100 and ask him to go buy me a pant-load of Tang and rescue me a pony!!!!! You bet your ass that didn't make any sense!!!!!
Good advice bro and it can't be sadi enough.
Also, I think that some people are perhaps being completely fooled by the way the whole internet thing might work. Here's a hint: guys who post on discussion boards and may refer you to a source, can also use multiple e-mail addy's. Not calling anyone scammer or anything, but it should definitely cross your mind whenver you place an order. Ask yourself: Do I perhaps know this guy? Hhhmmmmm.....
 
Nathan said:
Listen here 2Thick and listen well, I will get scammed by whomever I like whenever I like!!!!! In fact, I think I'm going to hand the next stranger I meet in the streets $100 and ask him to go buy me a pant-load of Tang and rescue me a pony!!!!! You bet your ass that didn't make any sense!!!


lol thats pretty damn funny ..

bump for what bigjay said ......
 
A BIG BUMP TO THIS, IT SOMETIMES TAKES A WHILE TO FIND A SOURCE THAT YOU CAN TRUST!! I KNOW THAT A CERTIAN SOURCE I KNOW OF IS FUCKING GREAT!! BUT GENTELMAN DO YOUR SOURCE CHECKS. BROTHERHOOD IS A VERY GOOD THING BUT STILL EVERYONE CANT BE TRUSTED. BE SAFE BRO'S..................
 
Definately do your research & be patient. It well worth it. Don't be in a hot ass hurry to get stuff 'cause I gaurentee you'll get 'F'kd.:bawling:
 
Unless you're VERY lucky, its just a matter of time before your source gets flagged, scams you, or gets pinched. Nothing beats going to San Diego a few times a year in my book.
 
Originally posted by WarLobo

Some good points to remember. Most good sources don't come to you and will not give you "HOT" deals. Good sources will give you refs should you ask, answer your e-mails, and in general do not pressure you to buy.

And my final point I'd like to share, PRICE of said gear is only ONE aspect of the transaction. All often I see folks using price as the only yard stick when measuring a "good deal" This mind set, will, in the ling run, get you scammed. If and when you find a good pasture, the grass is not always greener on the other side..... [/B]


Good advice bro, price is not always the factor, some fucks can offer cheap prices in return for fake gear, any way I would also ask these things etc :-

Do you get fast reply to emails ??
ask how packs are sent and packed
ask what policy is if parcel seized
ask delivery time
ask despatch date
question sources knowledge on gear
ask for mod refs
ask for 5 previous customer refs
ask for a no signature required shipping method

once you have done this then I think you can go ahead and order, if you get reffered to a good source dont fuck them about, send the cash and you will get your gear, I really dont see much value in a test order at all, bottom line is dont send more than you can afford to lose.

hope this helps guys.

bbigman2000
 
Bump- Good post..

Simple to do,but yet there is always a scammer post on here somewhere.

Check with the mods bros, let them bitches earn there keep.......lol

Especially that test hating,half a man 2thick:)
 
Of all the suggestions listed above, the only one that I personally disagree with is ask for no signature required—at least for domestic priority/express mail.

I’ve had two packages disappear into thin air over the last month even though both were traceable as being delivered to my address.

This is the result of either a) someone scooping it off my front porch, or b) a dishonest postman who stole it knowing that I would have no recourse. (he said/she said) I’m betting that it’s my postman because I’ve had many UPS or Fedex packages left at my doorstep—some very large sitting there in plain view all day and none were swiped off the steps. I live in a decent neighborhood.

In my opinion, the signature required does three important things:
  • It gives YOU piece of mind.
  • It gives your source piece of mind
  • It keeps the postman honest

I would not do signature required on international mail because you never know if customs has opened the package and is setting you up. Domestic mail—what’s the worry?
 
Fina Question

If Someone were to do a just a fina cycle ,Will the body stop making test? Second question once you stop will it get back to normal production on its on or do you need to take something else.If so what else would you need , could a mod help me on this .

Thanks in advance fore your help
Your local
Newbie :angel:
 
Re: Fina Question

Azzkiker said:
If Someone were to do a just a fina cycle ,Will the body stop making test? Second question once you stop will it get back to normal production on its on or do you need to take something else.If so what else would you need , could a mod help me on this .

Thanks in advance fore your help
Your local
Newbie :angel:

Yes, it will inhibit your natural test. You will need to use Clomid post-cycle in order to keep more of your gains.
 
Sources are drug dealers: some are always(never say always) good, some are good most of the time and some are good so that they can rip you off later(then of course there are those that just scam- but they are not really sources)

they(sources) are people in a relatively high risk business, and like most companies when they take a loss they pass it on to the consumer. Some by raising prices, but others by selective scamming.

That being said, good sources are like good business men-- they either suck up the losses that they have (which invariably happens) so that they can keep their customers(which will pay in the long run) or they get out with apologies(perhaps some refunds- they give up the business)... the bad or mediochre ones scam to make up losses or disappear for a while and are then reborn.... Once they set down the bad path and see how easy it is, few are able to return to straight dealings (though it does happen)

just some random thoughts.
 
BigJay81 said:
I agree but sometimes you can't trust the mods either!!!

Alot have vested intrest with sources....


So my advice do your own research, USE you brain and make a good deal...

very true, i only truly back sources that i use and know will deliver, i dont take anyones word
 
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That being said, good sources are like good business men-- they either suck up the losses that they have (which invariably happens) so that they can keep their customers(which will pay in the long run) or they get out with apologies(perhaps some refunds- they give up the business)...

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Yes, Macro, random as they may be, they are nevertheless generally on target.

...and the best sources manage to keep their friends, with whom they have communicated over months in the elegant international language of business (English), despite their own business problems; to clients who've paid their hard-earned money for their source's stuff, along with his integrity of character.

And an excellent source can and will suck up incredible losses in the process of making ALL his obligations good (sources get screwed, too), just like any really honest businessman. He won't bullshit his client friends or make whingy apologies.

And if and when he returns, he'll know who is friends are because he didn't lose any. And he'll damned sure know who screwed him.

My random thoughts.

I think it's the Nootropil (a smart drug I regularly take along with 1000 mcg of B-12 and 100mg of B-6 per day). Now that I'm healthy again, my mind is like a razor. All those bizarre events of the past are taking on a crystal clarity.

Dex
 
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i have never had any bad advice from a mod here on this board. in fact just a while ago it saved me money when doing a source check on my gear. thanks go to those who help and for those who dont, i really dont need to say anything do i?
 
You will find that your best sources are kept quite, you best bet is to do a trail order and these days I would stick to Mexico just for the fact that they get there gear across the border then ship it, a us based source is a time bomb waiting to get busted.
 
hi i just realized somethign correct me if im wrong but if a source gets busted wont he tell the feds all of his clients addresses?
 
MIKERAZ said:
hi i just realized somethign correct me if im wrong but if a source gets busted wont he tell the feds all of his clients addresses?
that was a really dumb question.... NO
 
MIKERAZ said:
hi i just realized somethign correct me if im wrong but if a source gets busted wont he tell the feds all of his clients addresses?

actually that's a GOOD question, supergirl. i've read of cases on this board where sources HAVE given away clients addies in hopes of a plea bargain or reduced sentence.

i'm thinking a good source won't do that, a lesser one will.
 
DaMan said:


actually that's a GOOD question, supergirl. i've read of cases on this board where sources HAVE given away clients addies in hopes of a plea bargain or reduced sentence.

i'm thinking a good source won't do that, a lesser one will.
then they are shitty sources.. just my opinion.. :D
 
Guys it usually works the other way. Some flaming asshole gets busted with $150 worth of gear, and rats out every source he knows!!!!!!!! Cops really don't give a fuck about the end users, they want to wipe out distribution!!
 
Needleboy, I've seen it work both ways. And when the shit hits the fan, some losers squeel their freaking heads off; end users and sources alike.

Dex
 
Dexter said:
Needleboy, I've seen it work both ways. And when the shit hits the fan, some losers squeel their freaking heads off; end users and sources alike.

Dex

DEXTER!!!!!! ol buddy, ol pal, bro, we miss you at steroidworld.com, come on over bro, it dosent hurt to post there once in a while. Hope you remember me, i was undr the handle name conan over there.....

we are waiting for you man, you are one quality bro.
 
Hey Conan! Glad to see you, fellow mod (well, until I had to resign - hehe). I'll definitely be dropping over there to say hello to the good bro's.

Dex
 
the mods are the best

I recently emailed a few mods...all responded in a very timely manner. I know these guys are busy....and I am grateful for their time. THANKS GUYS!
 
Half the names that come across my screen I have no clue as to who they are legit or not. It amazes me sometimes as to the sheer volume I see as "source" names. The most alarming of which I have found through my own fuck ups it that most will fuck you and wont even kiss you first.

Email a mod...chances are we dont even know the guy/guys/girls/dogs/parrots/guinea pigs/etc.
I can tell you from my experience with other mods that if we know the source we tell you what we think. End of story.

WCP
 
lol @supergirl

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Originally posted by MIKERAZ
hi i just realized somethign correct me if im wrong but if a source gets busted wont he tell the feds all of his clients addresses?
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that was a really dumb question.... NO

TIME TO GET REAL

If a source, who is in the eyes of the law, a drug dealer could save himself a few years in the slammer I reckon he would HAVE to give up some names, can you blame him??

What repucussions would the buyer get, Id say none. But it would save the source a few years of his life, so hell yeah, he's gonna save his ass (i hope)

UglyASS :confused:
 
It don't matter if your a seller or a buyer, either your a rat or ya ain't a rat. Just remember every dog has his day.

All bros need to keep in mind that good customer service is a rarity these days, so if you get it show your appreciation by being a good patron.
 
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"Just remember every dog has his day."
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Colloquialism as it may be, Hill Billy, I believe you are right. Or in other words, "What goes around, comes around." Karma. Eventually, if not through self-inflicted idiocy, then in some form of nature's reprisal or retortion - or someone else's reprisal, whomever he or she may be, seen or unseen.

2Thick distilled it well. And Macro and WCP, as Mods, added good remarks as did others. And "in this small world in which we travel" (Slopain's words and one of my favorite phrases), the Mods have seen all species of wildlife and vermin.

It's gotta be hell to distinguish the good from the bad.

Some sources are practically sociopaths who will befriend you and then lead you down the garden path - before screwing you (e.g., scamming, laming, squeeling).

Others, seemingly stable and reliable, will crack when the going gets tough and will shamelessly betray their clients and divulge fellow source information, thinking they will save their boil-encrusted skins or, perhaps in some distorted thinking, actually believe they will secure a better "market share."

And seemingly good clients will barf up everything they know about sources and other bros under stress. Some are the type of people Macro describes. The scenarios go on and on and on...and on, ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

I adamantly and respectfully disagree that the Powers that Be are only looking for distributors, because what I've seen (including some very cogent comments about Federal funding and priorities) just doesn't support that notion in my view.

It's a crap shoot, and while you're in the floating game you have to have eyes in the back of your head, because someone can be behind you with a kitchen knife ready and willing to stab you in the liver.

So, if you're going to place yourself in the jungle, just keep in mind the principal rule of the jungle: "Only the strong survive." And while the biggest, or smartest (including those who delude themselves thinkng they are the smartest) get their prey, so do the smaller, well adapted - or well adjusted - ones who on the surface appear harmless.

A few more random thoughts.

Dex
 
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Good abstract Dex. You are always good on this :) How are you doing nowadays? Since you've got your health back I hope you'll hit the gym soon :)
 
Hi Vovan. Thank you. Yes, I am physically healthy again and my mind clear, very clear.

And, yes, I finally got back to the gym! My muscles at this point still seem to be criticizing me for neglecting them; but soon their "memory" will return, too, like my mind's has...

Just for your information, a borderline paranoic flamed me a few months ago with an outrageously strange, disgusting email (one of a few I was able to retreive and save from Hushmail - yet I don't even look at them, because they are so highly repugnant), WARNING me not to email or contact you.

At least it wasn't a threat (which I have never taken), so it was not out of fear that I chose not to email you. While recovering from my illness (I was weak), it nevertheless was a good opportunity to re-establish old business acquaintances and make new ones. Even became good friends with the daughter of an second-tier Oligarch (worth less than $ 1 billion <sigh>, but what the heck...hehe).

Now it's just medicine, vitamins, natural supps, and some old Primo for personal use (300 mg./week) that I'm taking, but that's okay. And I'm eating much better.

You are a good guy I've enjoyed meeting in the past. How's your computer work going? Staying out of politics? :)

I wish you well and, sincerely, to be in good health. What's life without health?

Dex
 
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WarLobo said:


And my final point I'd like to share, PRICE of said gear is only ONE aspect of the transaction. All often I see folks using price as the only yard stick when measuring a "good deal" This mind set, will, in the ling run, get you scammed. If and when you find a good pasture, the grass is not always greener on the other side.....

A HUGE point everyone should take to heart...there are a lot of things to consider that will save your ass in the long run....price is about 5th on my list of things that I look for in a source.
 
Dexter:

I'm ok too :) Thanks. I'm "natural" at the moment but I'll definitely take care of this soon ;) hehe

That's weird to hear about the email :confused: I don't see a reason for this... Who needs this?... I don't know :(

My work is going allright! Good news - they have finally replaced my P-166 PC by PIII-800. You know that's a problem in bureaucratic organisation to prove your need of modern equipment... Well that change has really helped me :D

all the best,
Vovan
 
Is there any way you can have a discussion about your source on a post, or does that violate rules? Do you have to word it a certain way, or what? Just checkin, Thanks.
 
The TEST of Truth said:
Is there any way you can have a discussion about your source on a post, or does that violate rules? Do you have to word it a certain way, or what? Just checkin, Thanks.

In order to protect the source, the rules dicate that we are not allowed to post any information (no matter how disguised).
 
I think the best thing to do with a new source is NOT overorder...its tought but a lot of people do.

Get some stuff...even if it doesn't complete your cycle...then augment later if its reliable.
 
hey guys i'm obviously new...just coming back into working out after about 1 1/2 years...been reading everybody's posts (obviously i'm looking) and i think everybody's giving great advice...appreciate the help
 
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