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DOMS Deltoids

PW style???

do you mean powerlifter style? that style of bench puts allot more stress on the delts than BB style.
 
I've beaten my delts to shreds in every conceivable way I can think of and I think I got them "a little sore once".

I can get any other part of my body to show DOMS if I want, but shoulders is a different story!

Why? WHY? WHY???
 
Which delt we talking about? All, front, side or rear? My sides never get sore. My front get sore as hell from front raises!
 
Same here. Hardly ever get sore. The one thing that "sometimes works a little bit" is to just do shit loads of reps. And I think that mostly is RC soreness because it hurts "differently" than doms.
 
Mine have, but its rare. DOMS is very rare in detoids in most individuals. I have a book somewhere that explains the biological reason for this. I'll try to find it later.
 
Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness.

Probably like other high rep muscles it is disadvantagious for them to get sore to the point of being unuseable. You use your shoulders for everything that your upperbody does. Every time you carry, push, or pull they get used. So on an evolutionary standpoint they are designed for high useage and output.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
my rear head gets sore easily, but lateral and front head are practically bulletproof... which sucks since it's so hard to get that lateral head to "peak".
 
my front delts get sore only from incline bb bench and military press(bringing bar down in front of face). my side delts get sore only if i do upright rows, and it's only for a day or so. they won't get sore if i do lateral raises and no upright rows
 
I revoke my previous statement, b/c my front delts do get sore, usually on shoulder press.


I also never have sore bis, shoulders.
 
Hmmm... the only muscle of mine that consistantly has DOMS are my pecs. In fact, yesterday I did only one set for chest. It was a striping set on the hammerstrength incline machine, and I'm sore today.
 
I think soreness is from stretching before the concentric movement. That`s why the chest gets sore, the bar goes down on your chest and stretches your chest. Overhead tricep press the tricep stretches. But when curling, your bis don`t stretch (unless doing incline DB curls) Also when doing shoulders, it`s hard to stretch the deltoid. They only get stretched a little when doing Incline bench or something...

This is NOT scientific it`s just my opinion and what I`ve experienced. There are other factors involved, but THOSE things are doing it for me. I actually don`t like getting really sore.
 
gonelifting, there is something to that, but I've gotten sore from non-stretch position lifts as well. While incline curls certainly leave me sore often, I've done nothing but barbell and dumbell work on a preacher bench a number of times and had sore bi's the next day. Also, any chest movement leaves me sore if I train with even moderate intensity.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
gonelifting, there is something to that, but I've gotten sore from non-stretch position lifts as well. While incline curls certainly leave me sore often, I've done nothing but barbell and dumbell work on a preacher bench a number of times and had sore bi's the next day. Also, any chest movement leaves me sore if I train with even moderate intensity.
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Chest movements, there`s definately a stretch.

Preachers would do it if you don`t pause at the bottom of the movement and accelerate up, causing more pressure or force on the muscle. just a guess. They`re just theories(I have), remember. But ll in all, they have some merit. I think
 
Ok, I found the info. Charles Polquin said in an interview I read that the reason delts do not get sore is because there is no stretch in most deltoid movements (goneliftin is right). That stretching a muscle during a lift is what seems to trigger the nerve impuse for doms. If you do a needle bioposy on a deltoid muscle after intense training, it will show as much damage to the fibers and another equally trained muscle that is sore, but you should need feel nearly the same level of soreness as another muscle that was trained with some kind of stretching stress in the movement. Polquin, all things being considered, is definately a credible source of information on excersice science. The Ph.D. and his extensive experience training olympic atheletes yield alot of credibility.
 
Tiervervexx, nice avatar. LoL I still have a working copy of Final Fantasy for my old nintendo.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
Tiervervexx, nice avatar. LoL I still have a working copy of Final Fantasy for my old nintendo.
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I never played the first one, but I did love the two released for the Super Nintendo. The U.S. FFIII was awesome.

Speaking of Poliquin, I seem to remember that quote and yes, I definitely think he's credible/a good source of knowledge.

I think soreness has a lot to do with stretching while under resistance as well.

Of course, it is possible to get very sore without any kind of real stretch; you've some experience with partials, and I know I have...very short ROM partials with lots of weight could sometimes leave me deadly sore in a particular bodypart.

If I remember right, though, partials only made me sore in certain areas, like pecs. In the grand scheme of things, pecs aren't used much in training the rest of the body--not the way delts are. This is an important difference.

I'm thinking that delts are used so much indirectly that they receive lots of "active recovery." I know that when I have a hard workout and am sore the next day, if I do a little light stuff, the soreness is almost completely eliminated.

Perhaps the shoulders' involvement in squats, deadlifts, rows, etc. functions in a similar manner, and also help prevent them from feeling very sore.
 
OMG, right, try doing 1/4th or shorter reps on close grip presses with 545. My triceps cramp for hours. Anyway considering the amount of extra movement and stretching delts get from doing other various movements you may be onto something with the active recovery. They get more use than another other muscle in the upper body.
 
I can make my shoulders burn like hell.

This has always worked for me:

Behind Neck Press 6-8reps
superset with side laterals to failure, drop weight and continue to failure again, and again (3 or 4 times)

Always works and burns like hell for a LONG time.

My shoulders are my best part. :)

-sk
 
sk* said:
I can make my shoulders burn like hell.

This has always worked for me:

Behind Neck Press 6-8reps
superset with side laterals to failure, drop weight and continue to failure again, and again (3 or 4 times)

Always works and burns like hell for a LONG time.

My shoulders are my best part. :)

-sk
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burn during a workout is not necessarily going to be soreness the next day. Are yur shoulders sore 2 days later?
 
gonelifting said:



burn during a workout is not necessarily going to be soreness the next day. Are yur shoulders sore 2 days later?
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When i do behind the neck presses i get a very good pump in my delts but they still don't get very sore. Same with you sk?
 
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