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does pot fuck with test levels

test, igf-1 & pot = quality HRT
 
SublimeZM said:
o geez


so is dxm the only safe drug for me?
Don't smoke pot sweetie. My mom died a very painful death because of lung cancer. She smoked every day. I think that is why she died so young. Find other ways to amuse yourself. It isn't worth the damage it does to your lungs.
 
HeatherRae said:
Don't smoke pot sweetie. My mom died a very painful death because of lung cancer. She smoked every day. I think that is why she died so young. Find other ways to amuse yourself. It isn't worth the damage it does to your lungs.
i didnt ask about my lungs, but i appreciate your concern
 
SublimeZM said:
i didnt ask about my lungs, but i appreciate your concern
Worry about your lungs more than you do your physique. You will thank me for that tidbit in 40 years, if I am still alive. ;-)
 
HeatherRae said:
Worry about your lungs more than you do your physique. You will thank me for that tidbit in 40 years, if I am still alive. ;-)
whats the point of living if your unhappy with the way you feel about yourself?
 
SublimeZM said:
whats the point of living if your unhappy with the way you feel about yourself?
Pot won't make you happy about yourself. You have a whole world of reasons to be happy about yourself.
 
HeatherRae said:
Worry about your lungs more than you do your physique. You will thank me for that tidbit in 40 years, if I am still alive. ;-)
a guy down the road looked after himself all his life. football player. fit as hell - trim, taut, looked great (for a 50 year old guy). successful business, pretty wife, good kids, popular. envy of all his friends.

went for a jog, got wiped out by a car. dead.

so get off sublimes case about the pot. he and his best friend need to spend some quality time, and they both have to get in the mood ;)
 
GoldenDelicious said:
a guy down the road looked after himself all his life. football player. fit as hell - trim, taut, looked great (for a 50 year old guy). successful business, pretty wife, good kids, popular. envy of all his friends.

went for a jog, got wiped out by a car. dead.

so get off sublimes case about the pot. he and his best friend need to spend some quality time, and they both have to get in the mood ;)
ROFL...He's 18, for pete's sake! He should be "in the mood" by the draft created from his ceiling fan. ;-)
 
HeatherRae said:
ROFL...He's 18, for pete's sake! He should be "in the mood" by the draft created from his ceiling fan. ;-)
i actually want to but im feeling too lazy believe it or not
 
Never done pot or never masturbated? LOL.

I've never smoked pot. I just know because I grew up around my mom who smoked it everyday.
 
did your mom smoke ciggarettes too heatherrae or just pot?
 
subz - conventional wisdom (based on older studies) was that it lowered test levels. Newer studies either failed to confirm that or apperar to refute it.

But just looking at friends who are/were heavy pot users, they all seem to tend to soft bodies, lack of muscle size/tone, etc. So maybe the mechanism is different (lowered GH? increased cortisol?), but the end result appears to be the same. Also pot users tend to accumulate trunk fat consistent with elevated cortisol levels.

just take xanax (studies showed increased muscle mass - for real lol) and an occasional vodka shot. :verygood:


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HeatherRae said:
cigarettes too.


Fags (cigs) suck. Pot is much better to put into your lungs. No added chemicals other than the plant itself.
 
SublimeZM said:
whats the point of living if your unhappy with the way you feel about yourself?

Agreed, I would rather live a short high quality life than a long miserable ass life. :garza:
 
when i do smoke it, rarely- it makes me very horny. so i think it increases test levels by at least 20X....
 
HeatherRae said:
cigarettes too.
bingo! I don't see a higher than average incidence of lung cancer among non ciggarette using pot smokers.
 
PBR said:
when i do smoke it, rarely- it makes me very horny. so i think it increases test levels by at least 20X....

same here
 
pin said:
Agreed, I would rather live a short high quality life than a long miserable ass life. :garza:
I don't think you need pot to lead a happy life. If you do, you need to have your head examined...lol.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Fags (cigs) suck. Pot is much better to put into your lungs. No added chemicals other than the plant itself.
yeah, but you are smoking without a filter, and I have heard that smoking a joint puts 14 times more tar and shit in your lungs than smoking a cigarette. Let's face it, either one is bad for your lungs. I don't think pot should be illegal, and I am certainly no prude about the happy effects of smoking pot. I just think it is too bad for one's lungs to be considered a nice hobby. ;-) lol.
 
HeatherRae said:
yeah, but you are smoking without a filter, and I have heard that smoking a joint puts 14 times more tar and shit in your lungs than smoking a cigarette. Let's face it, either one is bad for your lungs. I don't think pot should be illegal, and I am certainly no prude about the happy effects of smoking pot. I just think it is too bad for one's lungs to be considered a nice hobby. ;-) lol.
lol how does it put 14 times more tar in if there isnt any tar in the first place
 
Plasma testosterone levels in healthy male marijuana smokers.
Cushman P Jr.

Plasma testosterone, FSH, and LH levels were obtained from 25 healthy consecutive heterosexual male mauijuana smoking university students. All values were within the range of normal and the means did not differ significantly from those of 13 normal controls. These data suggest that the casual marijuana smoker (at least one time weekly with an average of 5.1 joints per week) may have plasma testosterone levels which are normal for the time of day and the laboratory.
 
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