Does moral character/integrity even matter anymore?

[hanselthecaretaker]

I was talking with some guys I used to work with and just bs'ing, they said how they used to steal so much shit from the store where they worked, and were saying how that place sucked anyways, so they basically deserved it. Practically everyone I've known in college has admitted to stealing as a kid.
Well, that's fine and all, but I just don't want to be a hypocrite. I've never stolen anything in my life; as a teen I almost stole a cd once just to see how easy it would be to do it, but then thought what the hell for, and put it back.
I just always think that if I caught someone stealing from me, they wouldn't have the fingers or thumbs left to do it again at the very least, and know that I wouldn't want someone doing that to me. I guess I don't look at how "cool" it is, or how the place deserves to get ripped off. Instead I look at the principle of it all- the integrity, and it shows what type of people thieves are in general; parasitic, collectively disrupting the potential of the free market economy.

It's like the only way to get ahead in the world is to lie, cheat, steal, etc; anything you can do and a lot of people seem ok with this, void of a conscience.

Well they've gotta be ok for it to happen to them too, then. I for one, wouldn't tolerate it. I want to be able to be untouchable when I build my wealth, knowing that I did it legitimately, and tell anyone who accuses me of anything to fuck off with a smile on my face.


The criminal laws in this country are also way too lenient. No wonder so much shit is happening.

 

[CFZB]

Only To The Left.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Only To The Left.

Would you please repost your old avatar. Went from boobalicious to bloodyhell.


I think our corporate and political environments spawned a "take care of me since nobody else gives a fuck" attitude.


I can not believe how income has replaced personal virtue as the measuring tape that our society measures people by.


Our system is pretty vicious really and that spawns a reciprocal attitude.

wtf...I have a house and business. Otherwise...I would have split some time ago. I'm tempted to anyways but the business is growing due to referrals.


But yea....some people are absolutely unfuckingbelievable.

 

[The Red Dragon]

Never stole a thing in my life (never needed to thankfully)

But morals/integrity/character are so out this season
Seriously, it's just that 'rat race, I only look out for myself' ambiance, and its true to some extent. In some businesses you have to lie/cheat/steal to get ahead because other people are doing it.

 

[HumorMe]

I was talking with some guys I used to work with and just bs'ing, they said how they used to steal so much shit from the store where they worked, and were saying how that place sucked anyways, so they basically deserved it. Practically everyone I've known in college has admitted to stealing as a kid.
Well, that's fine and all, but I just don't want to be a hypocrite. I've never stolen anything in my life; as a teen I almost stole a cd once just to see how easy it would be to do it, but then thought what the hell for, and put it back.
I just always think that if I caught someone stealing from me, they wouldn't have the fingers or thumbs left to do it again at the very least, and know that I wouldn't want someone doing that to me. I guess I don't look at how "cool" it is, or how the place deserves to get ripped off. Instead I look at the principle of it all- the integrity, and it shows what type of people thieves are in general; parasitic, collectively disrupting the potential of the free market economy.

It's like the only way to get ahead in the world is to lie, cheat, steal, etc; anything you can do and a lot of people seem ok with this, void of a conscience.

Well they've gotta be ok for it to happen to them too, then. I for one, wouldn't tolerate it. I want to be able to be untouchable when I build my wealth, knowing that I did it legitimately, and tell anyone who accuses me of anything to fuck off with a smile on my face.


The criminal laws in this country are also way too lenient. No wonder so much shit is happening.

Good post. I wish you luck.

Unfortunately, People no longer have consciouses these days. I couldn't sleep at night knowing I took something that didn't belong to me. People have a tendancy to steal from their employer because they feel they are entitled to it.

There is even a nicer name coined to it as misappropriation. Things that are too small to notice yet add up over time. People suck in general.

Your kind are like late night buses....far and few between.

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

No. It matters, but it's not as treasured as it once was.
Where I come from, alot of business is done purely on a hand shake.
Ruthless self servitude is the thing now.

 

[BrothaBill]

Its easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle than to get a rich man into heaven.

 

[jerkbox]

i think with the breakdown of any community and family these days - moral character went out the window....it's every man for himself

 

[Testosterone boy]

Its easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle than to get a rich man into heaven.

!

 

[BrothaBill]

But man, despite his riches, does not endure; he is like the beasts that perish. This is the fate of those who trust in themselves…death will feed on them.A man who has riches without understanding is like the beasts that perish

 

[CFZB]

it's every man for himself

BINGO.

I Cant Wait Untill Women Rule The planet.

 

[BrothaBill]

An excellent movie to watch on this is the Sundance independent film "In the Company of Men" The revulsion and horror is indescribable.

In the Company of Men is one of those rarest of rare breeds -- a movie that doesn't just ignore Hollywood conventions, but openly flouts them. The reason is simple: because of its brutally-direct depiction of certain aspects of the current North American social climate, In the Company of Men is anything but entertaining. It's virtually impossible to sit through this film without suffering bouts of intense discomfort, and therein lies its power.

The picture begins as something much different than what it concludes as, and the metamorphosis occurs so gradually that it only becomes apparent in retrospect. Shortly after In the Company of Men opens, the intent appears to be to center on the conflict between the sexes. Ultimately, however, this only a small piece of the much larger pie into which Neil LaBute's directorial debut slices. In the Company of Men widens its focus to encompass the falseness and gamesmanship that underlies many aspects of everyday human interaction. It's a cynical perspective that's all the more disturbing because it's grounded so deeply in reality. The characters here aren't cardboard cut-out stereotypes -- they're the kind of people you can find anywhere inside or outside of the workplace.

Chad (Aaron Eckhart) and Howard (Matt Malloy) are two very different guys with a great deal in common. They attended the same college, work for the same corporation, and have a history of bad relationships with women. Their combined romantic record reads like a litany of injustices perpetrated on them by females. They have been duped, rejected, neglected, and intentionally misunderstood. Chad, ready to go to war against the entire gender to "restore a little dignity", has a simple, vicious suggestion for revenge. They will find a woman who has trouble getting dates, both take her out, then, after duping her into falling in love with one or both of them, they'll dump her at the same time. Howard is initially reluctant, but Chad talks him into it before locating the perfect target: an attractive-but-deaf typist named Christine (Stacy Edwards), whose disability has caused her self-esteem to erode.

BUT....that doesnt even compare to what is really go one. I highly highly recommend this movie. It really is scary that people actually act this way.

 

[jerkbox]

I Cant Wait Untill Women Rule The planet.

you're telling me they don't already?


or at least the US.....

 

[CFZB]

you're telling me they don't already?


or at least the US.....

lol...

I know what You mean....

But no they Dont .

Not really the Way I mean.

 

[Testosterone boy]

That is indescribably cruel. The victim is both innocent and deaf.

Some movies are essentially designed to make the viewer feel nauesous.

 

[BrothaBill]

That is indescribably cruel. The victim is both innocent and deaf.

Some movies are essentially designed to make the viewer feel nauesous.

OMG, beyond cruel! They are sick of women dating multiple guys so they decide to make a stand againt just for the sake of all manhood. So they find a girl and they both court her to make her feel torn between the two. She is forced to lie to both of them b/c she is confused on which one to pick. Their plan is to both dump her when they find out about one another, its all planned and they scheme as they treat her like a queen. Its sick but all to real in its portrayal.
That is just a tiny part of what is actually happening though, its even worse, I dont want to give it away. Just to say that it is very realistic portrayal.

If you want every movie that you see to be Sleepless in Seattle, avoid In the Company of Men. This movie doesn't take prisoners, and "feel good" is a term no one will ever use to describe it. But In the Company of Men deserves high praise because what it does, it does extraordinarily well. Finally, here's a film with the guts to tell this kind of the story without turning it into a fairy tale. It's rare for any motion picture to generate such a profound sense of disquiet, but the path traversed by LaBute's characters is so bold that it's impossible not to be affected.

 

[Testosterone boy]

OMG, beyond cruel! They are sick of women dating multiple guys so they decide to make a stand againt just for the sake of all manhood. So they find a girl and they both court her to make her feel torn between the two. She is forced to lie to both of them b/c she is confused on which one to pick. Their plan is to both dump her when they find out about one another, its all planned and they scheme as they treat her like a queen. Its sick but all to real in its portrayal.
That is just a tiny part of what is actually happening though, its even worse, I dont want to give it away. Just to say that it is very realistic portrayal.

If you want every movie that you see to be Sleepless in Seattle, avoid In the Company of Men. This movie doesn't take prisoners, and "feel good" is a term no one will ever use to describe it. But In the Company of Men deserves high praise because what it does, it does extraordinarily well. Finally, here's a film with the guts to tell this kind of the story without turning it into a fairy tale. It's rare for any motion picture to generate such a profound sense of disquiet, but the path traversed by LaBute's characters is so bold that it's impossible not to be affected.

The return of musclebrains?

 

[spongebob]

The return of musclebrains?

real busy post whoring uh? dont worry orb we have your back, even if you dont! cause thats how we operate up in here!

 

[BradG]

It seems to me that for the majority of our culture morality and character are only important for others. If someone treats you in a way that is beneficial to them and not to yourself then you consider that person rude, or self-absorbed, or immoral. If, however, it comes to you being inconvenienced to do the "right" thing then morality and character become overrated and unnecessarily restrictive.

To be concise: Today's people consider morality and character important for others but not themselves.

 

[silverfish]

To be concise: Today's people consider morality and character important for others but not themselves.

This is true, we want everyone to play be the rules. But it's OK if we break them on occasion. I want good, moral neighbors but I may not be a real great neighbor. I want co-workers who are moral and trustworthy, but I'll slit their throats to get ahead. I'm not sure how I got to be the way I am, and I don't think I like it very much. Reality can change us for the worse.

 

[Testosterone boy]

real busy post whoring uh? dont worry orb we have your back, even if you dont! cause thats how we operate up in here!

thats good to hear


Yea.....I'm in a slow rut lately. Remodeling was breath takingly expensive so I quit for a while.