Does eating fat make you fat?

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

Maybe it sounds like a dumb question but does eating a high percentage of your calories from fat make you gain more fat than eating the same number of calories from carbs? I've always been under the impression that total calories was the most important factor in cutting. Is this true?

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

well there are "bad" fats and "good" fats, so you would probably be susceptable to more fat gain with the saturated fats. and may tend to lose more fat with "good" fats. then simple carbs can spike insulin which leads to fat gain, while fats don't do that. Complex carbs of course are a better choice. but when it comes right down to it, all things being equal (say you are using "good" fats or complex carbs), then equal amounts of each will lead to the same weight gain/loss. calories is what counts, but you need to get adequate protein intake for the carbs/fat not to matter.

 

[Festo]

well there are "bad" fats and "good" fats, so you would probably be susceptable to more fat gain with the saturated fats. and may tend to lose more fat with "good" fats. then simple carbs can spike insulin which leads to fat gain, while fats don't do that. Complex carbs of course are a better choice. but when it comes right down to it, all things being equal (say you are using "good" fats or complex carbs), then equal amounts of each will lead to the same weight gain/loss. calories is what counts, but you need to get adequate protein intake for the carbs/fat not to matter.

I think if you eat an equal amount in weight(example:100g.complex carb or 100g. of good unsaturated fat) you will lose weight faster if you eat the 100g. of complex carb since you have more than half less calorie in 100g. carb compared to 100g. of fat...

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

I think if you eat an equal amount in weight(example:100g.complex carb or 100g. of good unsaturated fat) you will lose weight faster if you eat the 100g. of complex carb since you have more than half less calorie in 100g. carb compared to 100g. of fat...

we are talking about equal calories from fat or carbs. not gram for gram. taking into account you are alotted less grams of fat per gram of carb. i believe the initial post insinuated that it was cal vrs cal.

 

[ohioguy]

does eating pussy make you a pussy

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

does eating pussy make you a pussy

if so then i am a BIG pussy! i like to perform that act.

 

[solidspine]

If you eat too much of anything it will make you fat, but in general, normal fat consumtion will not make you fat,

Carbs CARBS

Make you fat

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

If you eat too much of anything it will make you fat, but in general, normal fat consumtion will not make you fat,

Carbs CARBS

Make you fat

not necessarily. for many carbs versus fat (same caloric value) would be the same. for me personally, i react badly to carbs, so carbs of equal caloric value would probably make me fatter than putting fat in its place. as a general rule though....as long as your not taking in pure sugar, you will most likely see similar gains/losses with calories being equal taking in fat or carbs.

 

[solidspine]

WARBIRDWS6

I think we are saying the same thing.

Solidspine,


complex carbs are fine, simple carb turn into fat, akins 101

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

WARBIRDWS6

I think we are saying the same thing.

Solidspine,


complex carbs are fine, simple carb turn into fat, akins 101

yeah, that is true. simple sugars are the most evil of the carbs/fats no matter what anyone says. i prefer to take in fats over carbs....but i hate the flat look of low/no carbs. so i tend to go really low carbs all week on cutting diets.........then go crazy on the carbs on day 7 to load up.

 

[blingbling211]

alot depends on genetics.. FSU running back Greg Jones eats anything and everything- big macs, wendys, etc etc.. and walks around at 6% bodyfat.. the majority of people can not eat like that and still be cut.. but IMO, for all intents and purposes, as long as you don't over-do fats and do your cardio you will be good to go..

 

[beefybull]

I have a friend who can (and sometimes does still) polish off a couple frozen pizzas, drink 10-12 Pepsi's a day, and eat junk food and still not gain weight. It's crazy.

 

[Zyglamail]

The problem with carbs are the speed in which they get converted ty glucose. The faster the conversion the higher they are on the glycemic index. The higher on the index the more likely they are to cause an insuline reaction that is above and beyond what is needed. Ever notice after a high carb meal you often feel llethargic? Overabundance of insulin cause a huge drop in blood sugar and the brain is starving. When an overabundance of insulin is present glucose gets shuttled into the cells regardless of weather or not its needed, once muscle is filled it then goes to fat cells. Fats and proteins greatly slow the digestive process reducing the glysemic properties of a meal and making carbs less detrimental. Eating high carbs after a workout takes advantage of the insulin spike by the fact our muscles are depleted and the GH spike to help lessen fat retention and cause a large influx of butrients into the muscles.

 

[Ulter]

The problem with carbs are the speed in which they get converted ty glucose. The faster the conversion the higher they are on the glycemic index. The higher on the index the more likely they are to cause an insuline reaction that is above and beyond what is needed. Ever notice after a high carb meal you often feel llethargic? Overabundance of insulin cause a huge drop in blood sugar and the brain is starving. When an overabundance of insulin is present glucose gets shuttled into the cells regardless of weather or not its needed, once muscle is filled it then goes to fat cells. Fats and proteins greatly slow the digestive process reducing the glysemic properties of a meal and making carbs less detrimental. Eating high carbs after a workout takes advantage of the insulin spike by the fact our muscles are depleted and the GH spike to help lessen fat retention and cause a large influx of butrients into the muscles.

And that's the whole purpose of using r-ALA!!!

It will cause the muscle cells to drink up more glucose so that the insulin levels are kept down.

 

[Zyglamail]

hehe, just reread my post....I think I just set a world record for typos in one post hopefully the readers can decipher it.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

And that's the whole purpose of using r-ALA!!!

It will cause the muscle cells to drink up more glucose so that the insulin levels are kept down.

lol. funny thing i had a guy come in the shop last night and he was looking for vanadyl sulfate.......said it gave him good pumps a few years back. so i explained that not many companies make it anymore (we had HDT and pro performance). He asked what was new in the "pump/insulin" field and i told him about ALA. but we only had the lousy 50mg/100mg softgels by GNC. i explained that you needed at least 4-500mg of ALA with a high carb meal, or maybe 200mg or so of R-ALA. So i told him about AF and iceman....your link was easy to remember so i wrote it down for him. he was leary to ask me where to get some better stuff, since i was working there. but if it were my shop i owned, i would certainly have higher dose ALA there!

 

[Sexual Mustard]

calories in VS. calories out, in my opinion. The high protein/high fat diet is used in my precontest with great results.

 

[Racer-X99]

The problem with carbs are the speed in which they get converted ty glucose. The faster the conversion the higher they are on the glycemic index. The higher on the index the more likely they are to cause an insuline reaction that is above and beyond what is needed. Ever notice after a high carb meal you often feel llethargic? Overabundance of insulin cause a huge drop in blood sugar and the brain is starving. When an overabundance of insulin is present glucose gets shuttled into the cells regardless of weather or not its needed, once muscle is filled it then goes to fat cells. Fats and proteins greatly slow the digestive process reducing the glysemic properties of a meal and making carbs less detrimental. Eating high carbs after a workout takes advantage of the insulin spike by the fact our muscles are depleted and the GH spike to help lessen fat retention and cause a large influx of butrients into the muscles.

Great info Zyg and thanks for sharing that.

Regarding the ALA. I know there are topics on this. I am not a firm believer that the substantially, higher cost justifies the R-ALA. The medical studies have almost been done with ALA. Time will tell; however, I do believe in ALA.

This link has the cheapest ALA I have been able to find. If you got a a better site, than please share.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com


Thanks!