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does anyone think this is a dangerous cycle?
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stonecold54
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why don't you just combine everything into one cycle. that would be my suggestion. nothing dangerous about it the way you have it set up except that you will be shut down for a while.
stonecold54
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yeah what he said 
Metal Gear
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Dangerous? you're kidding right?
this is how I would set it up.
week 1-10 Test 500mg
week 1-8 Deca at 400mg
week 4-10 winny at 50mg eod
That's a nice cycle that should have you hard and put on some nice dense muscle by the time you are done with it.
this is how I would set it up.
week 1-10 Test 500mg
week 1-8 Deca at 400mg
week 4-10 winny at 50mg eod
That's a nice cycle that should have you hard and put on some nice dense muscle by the time you are done with it.
Bulldog_10
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He already did the first 10 weeks...so stop telling him to combine them...
Rx, just wait a couple months and start the deca/winny cycle.
Rx, just wait a couple months and start the deca/winny cycle.
Bulldog_10
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rx123 said:
I haven't seen alot of posts that say that a 20 week cycle is a good idea. My personal advice would be not to go over 12 weeks (15 including post-cycle regimen).
Metal Gear
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Sorry I missed the part that you said you finished the 10 weeks bro. Yes, you can combin them in 1 syringe with no problem and shoot it. Try to get some more test in there and continue the same cycle that I set up for you.
Bulldog_10
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rx123 said:
The length of that cycle is exactly what makes it dangerous. If you stay on too long, your body will get accustom to having all that test in your system...then what happens when you suddenly take it away? I know it's not really sudden, but you get the point. Only bad things can come from using ANYTHING for 20 weeks straight. You body always wants to return to homeostasis, there are many homeostatic control systems reponsible for this. And when you take something for 20 weeks, it's gonna be a long time before your body can remember how things worked back before you started the cycle.
So basically, only bad things can come from long cycles...IMO.
DangerousGrounds
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I never looked at other post take your body cleansers for liver, kidneys after cycle, mid cycle and anti-estos, clomid, hgc. It looks like a fine cycle to me. I'd jack it up a bit myself. I get all tests done and am safe but that not that dangerous at all IMO.
I done yr long cycles tapering anti-estros changing gears. Cleaning out now ready soon 5 months off with cleansers and kept most my gains
I done yr long cycles tapering anti-estros changing gears. Cleaning out now ready soon 5 months off with cleansers and kept most my gains
Metal Gear
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rx123 said:
See, you haven't done a real hard cycle bro. Only 1 kind of AS which is not that harsh on your body at all. Most of the people here do 10-12 weeks and take 8 weeks off...well what happens is that you drop a lot of weight and water and lose almost 50% of your gains. I don't care what they say, use HCG, clomid blah blaha...you will lose most of the gains, espcially if you are new to the game. If you continue going with the test and add the deca and the winny, now you've got 2 long acting and 1 short acting ester...you're ending won't be so sudden, because deca takes hell of a long time to clear your system. At the same time, you have now made even more gains and winny has solidify and hardened you up, so you won't lose that much weight compared to taking 8 weeks off. I'm going year round this time bro, look at my pictures and see what kind of gains I have made...I'm in a "crusing mode" right now...4 weeks of light stuff and recovery time before I start my next cycle...I won't completly stop this time...because I'm tired of throwing my gains away...You haven't pushed your body that much...don't be scared. If you were cycling high doses, that would have been different. JUST MY .02 CENTS.
supertech69
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Metal Gear said:
God damn bro, you are jacked! It's amazing what a difference 11 lean lbs of mass makes. Good work!
If you want to continue gaining then your idea is a good one. Switching gears (sorry it was there, I took it) is teh best way, and the only way to keep your gains coming after 10 weeks.
The reason you would stop is to let your HPTA recover but if, like me and most vets, you aren't concerned about that while your trying to grow then keep going.
I would like to suggest that in the future you DO NOT WANT TO END A CYCLE WITH DECA AND NO TEST. This is going to make recovery a long process.
The reason you would stop is to let your HPTA recover but if, like me and most vets, you aren't concerned about that while your trying to grow then keep going.
I would like to suggest that in the future you DO NOT WANT TO END A CYCLE WITH DECA AND NO TEST. This is going to make recovery a long process.
That is my exact problem, I never really keep any of my gains.
I've done about 2 cycles per year for the last 3 years all mostly low doses of deca, eq, or test. My body comp has changed significantly but my weight just tends to drop back down. Once I start losing gains or am feeling bloated I cut back on the heavy weights and superset light weights. I lose weight but feel better because my bodyfat levels drop significantly(from 8 or 9% to 4-5). I was hoping for once to get at my post cycle weight with the low bf percentage but it seems impossible. That is why I thought the longer cycle may help and further it is the last of my gear and last cycle. I'm just scared of suppresing my HPTA for so long.
I've done about 2 cycles per year for the last 3 years all mostly low doses of deca, eq, or test. My body comp has changed significantly but my weight just tends to drop back down. Once I start losing gains or am feeling bloated I cut back on the heavy weights and superset light weights. I lose weight but feel better because my bodyfat levels drop significantly(from 8 or 9% to 4-5). I was hoping for once to get at my post cycle weight with the low bf percentage but it seems impossible. That is why I thought the longer cycle may help and further it is the last of my gear and last cycle. I'm just scared of suppresing my HPTA for so long.
Metal Gear
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supertech69 said:
Actually I started at 230 lbs bro, so it's 29 lbs for lean muscle!
rx123: I've never been a big fan of deca, but if you want to keep your gains bro, try going longer this time and during yoru time off take little amounts of mild AS to keep most of your wieght while recovering.
What if i use half of the winny now to help retain my gains while recovering and use the other half after the deca cycle?
I only have one bottle of 20cc winny at 50mg/ml
what strength would you use for 3 weeks to retain muscle yet not interfere with HPTA?
by doing this I would keep gains and prevent such a long HPTA suppression? correct?
I only have one bottle of 20cc winny at 50mg/ml
what strength would you use for 3 weeks to retain muscle yet not interfere with HPTA?
by doing this I would keep gains and prevent such a long HPTA suppression? correct?
