Does anyone here use kynoselen between cycles?

[ajc]

That is...if you actually take time off.

This trainer at my gym, who happens to be the most well known trainer in the metro area where I live, swears by this shit and he's about as natural as Pamala Anderson Lee or whatever the fuck her name is these days. I just wanted to know what my fellow mad scientists thought about it and if anyone knows what it is that makes the stuff work.

 

[Hbone]

The only other than the vitamins and minerals. Oh hell Here.
Heptaminol hydrochloride
disodic adenosine monophosphate
sudiom selenate
magnesium aspartate
potassium aspartate
b-12
Have used. Feel pretty good on it but the shots are no fun. Other feedback has stated pgf2 may be better choice.

 

[ajc]

pgf2 may be better choice.

Do what? Do you mean for fat loss?

 

[Hbone]

For small gains and fatloss btween cycles.

 

[ajc]

I won't consider PGF because of the associated sides, but kyno really seems safe and from what I hear, it's effective.

 

[Hbone]

How effective is the question. I did feel better, might be B-12. as far as cutting . I use Dnp so not good comparrison. And man leaves me with Knots for a week. As far any gains , not here.

 

[ajc]

My room mate has been injecting kyno in his delts for about 4 weeks (preparing for a Natural Comp) and has no knots so far. I don't really think it would do much for gains, but I'm wondering if it would help preserve gains while in between cycles. From what I hear, some of that trainer's clients are using this stuff year round (on cycle and off cycle) for that reason. They are also claiming that it helps prevent muscle loss while dieting for a show.

 

[Hbone]

You have yourself a guinea pig. Tell him good luck, hope he does well.

 

[ajc]

Well, he's trying to earn a Natural Bodybuilding pro-card and it's only his 3rd show. He's probably going to win, but he's a genetic freak, so even if he cleans house, I won't be able to give credit to the kyno. Here he is a year ago (before he gained another 15lbs.). I would never believe that he's natural, but I've lived with the guy for several years and he has me do his kyno shots for him because he's scared to death of the needles. lol

 

[Travbedaman]

What size needles do you guys use for the Kyno shots? I was going to use insulin pins, but I have heard you may need an inch long needle.

 

[Hbone]

25 1inch

 

[ajc]

This guy's been using my old trusty 23g 1inchers because he doesn't want to spend the 20 bucks on a box of pins.