Doctors frank talk

[Bull69]

I recently went to the doctor, because I have been experiencing a lot of anxiety. I am the COO and acting CFO of a telecommunications company. We are struggling to stay in business so I have had a lot of stress and had to lay off a lot of people. I have also been experiencing major fatigue. He put me on effexor ( I think that is how it is spelled), but then did blood work to see if it was my thyroid or something else. I went in for the follow up yesterday. He walked in and said we have to have a frank talk. He was extremely serious and sullen. I thout he was going to tell me I had cancer or something. Instead, He said "How much TEST are you doing a week." I just smiled and asked why. He informed me that my test levels were 2850. He then told me that was almost four times the high level, and that I was going to destroy my liver, put myself at risk for testicular or prostate cancer, and then asked how many times I have raged. I have never raged!!!!

I find this humorous, because I am on an extremely low cycle. It is rediculous what doctors feel are acceptable levels of testosterone. I had my testosterone checked last year while I was not on a cycle and it was 1400. The hysteria they preach is uninformed and borders on negligence. My liver enzymes were not even the least bit elevated.

I am sure he is going to be on my ass everytime I go to see him now. I wish I could find a doctor that is knowledgable and does not buy into all the hysteria and hype.

 

[frorider6]

What IS your cycle like?

 

[casavant]

He told you that you were going to destroy your liver off of injectable test? LOL

 

[Bull69]

Fror,

My cycle is really mild.
250mg sust
400mg eq

 

[frorider6]

What "units" was your test meaured on? Mine was measured at 518 NG/DL. The normal range is 241-827 NG/DL. Is that what scale yours is on? I just can't believe that yours was normally twice as high as the "max nomal". I mean, HOLY SHIT that's a lot of normal test production.

 

[Bull69]

What "units" was your test meaured on? Mine was measured at 518 NG/DL. The normal range is 241-827 NG/DL. Is that what scale yours is on? I just can't believe that yours was normally twice as high as the "max nomal". I mean, HOLY SHIT that's a lot of normal test production.

That is the same scale! The doctor did some tests and claimed it was not all that unusual.

 

[PinK233]

I find it funny how you guys mock a doctor's knowledge of the human body....hello, he only went to medical school and studied it for years! I'm sure the knowledge he posseses surpasses the info you guys learn off this chat board. Not flaming or anything, but if he's giving you a warning it's for your health's sake...

 

[frorider6]

Christ! Why the fuck do you need supplemental test? Just take some Liquidex and BAM, you're on a cycle!!!

 

[casavant]

I find it funny how you guys mock a doctor's knowledge of the human body....hello, he only went to medical school and studied it for years! I'm sure the knowledge he posseses surpasses the info you guys learn off this chat board. Not flaming or anything, but if he's giving you a warning it's for your health's sake...

Well, you can find medical abstracts that will tell you the same thing as far as liver damage is concerned. Beta-esterified injectables have no significant impact on liver values. The WHO has even done rather lengthy studies using test enanthate as male birth control, and the prescribe nandrolone in Australia for the same reason.

As far as the "raging" goes, I did not experience anything like that while on cycle. I was actually usually in such a good mood that I was extra friendly.

 

[Bull69]

Christ! Why the fuck do you need supplemental test? Just take some Liquidex and BAM, you're on a cycle!!!

I wish that were true. I start cutting next week!!! I would throw in Fina and I would be set.