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Do you support the right to euthanasia?

Robert Jan

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General:
Do you think that a doctor may or should painlessly end the life of a patient, if the patient by letter and word requests this and it is certain that he or she will never recover from their miserable state?

Please discern between the freedom to and and the duty to euthanasia. I'm not even asking to put people down who don't want it.

You:
If you had lost both legs and arms and were in constant pain and were blind, for a gruesome example, would you want to live on for another few decades like that?

Loved one:
If your husband or wife or parent was handicapped, in constant pain and had no hope to recovery, would you prefer for their life to be purposely ended?

What if the patient is no longer able to decide, or communicate his desire to end his life? Would you, as family, be ready to have a doctor do it?


PS-While Euthanasia is only legal in a few countries, anonymous polls show it's done quite regularly worldwide, simply unreported. A nurse or a doctor will push a hopeless patient over the edge with OD of morfine or insulin and write down natural causes.
 
Yes, I support it. I did a few papers on that when I was in high school. I showed a video of a guy who had burns covering his entire body and the doctor's made him go through the most painful procedures just to keep him alive. They refused to just let him die, even though he wanted it.

Shit like that just pisses me off.
 
Yes, if I had a terminal desease that was slowly wasting me away I would like the choice to die with dignity and peace rather than slowly suffer in pain and watch my friends and family suffer through that extended amount of time. I would also like to have some sort of signed document that would allow me to be euthanized in the case that an illness, accident or tragedy were to turn me into a living vegetable. Or even if I'm so old that I can no longer function and am just suffering all the time.
 
strangebrew said:
Yes, I support it. I did a few papers on that when I was in high school. I showed a video of a guy who had burns covering his entire body and the doctor's made him go through the most painful procedures just to keep him alive. They refused to just let him die, even though he wanted it.

Shit like that just pisses me off.

A guy in France suffer some sort of crazy disease, I forget what. His body is rejecting a lot of his own tissues and causing permanent infections or something... and he wanted euthanasia and no doctor would do it.

He wrote a very sincere and direct and shocking book. It's simply called let me die or something. It became a bestseller and it made the french more pro-euthanasia. In Holland it's been legal for years.

I too would like to have a document about this, just like a document about which if any organs you are willing to give for transplantation should you die.

It's just like with prostitution really, we can all pretend it doesnt happen because its a sin, or try to stop it, but it simply makes too much damn sense.
 
Robert Jan said:
A guy in France suffer some sort of crazy disease, I forget what. His body is rejecting a lot of his own tissues and causing permanent infections or something... and he wanted euthanasia and no doctor would do it.

He wrote a very sincere and direct and shocking book. It's simply called let me die or something. It became a bestseller and it made the french more pro-euthanasia. In Holland it's been legal for years.

It's just like with prostitution really, we can all pretend it doesnt happen because its a sin, or try to stop it, but it simply makes too much damn sense.

Yay for hookers.
 
It seems like you guys all support it, but still it's only legal in the state of Oregon out of all the states?

I guess politicians simply won't touch it.

Yet there is so much damn debate about abortions. There are probably far more potential euthanasia patients than abortions... Not in proportion.
 
Robert Jan said:
It seems like you guys all support it, but still it's only legal in the state of Oregon out of all the states?

I guess politicians simply won't touch it.
Religious quacks
 
Dutch doctors designed a system where a lethal pill is made in such a way that if you should just swallow it you would get a very very strong vomit reflex and you simply couldn't keep it down. Unless you do a threeday long anti-vomit pill series beforehand.

Called it the Pill of Dryon

Was supposed to become available in pharmacies without prescription. The parliament voted it down.
 
Robert Jan said:
Dutch doctors designed a system where a lethal pill is made in such a way that if you should just swallow it you would get a very very strong vomit reflex and you simply couldn't keep it down. Unless you do a threeday long anti-vomit pill series beforehand.

Called it the Pill of Dryon

Was supposed to become available in pharmacies without prescription. The parliament voted it down.



That is crazy. I can see why it was voted down. Every person who is depressed for a few weeks would be killing themselves. I think there needs to be a documented medical reason....
 
ChewYxRage said:
That is crazy. I can see why it was voted down. Every person who is depressed for a few weeks would be killing themselves. I think there needs to be a documented medical reason....
I agree, there should be certain cases where it's allowed other wise mass suicides would ensue.
 
I support it fully...I'll go even further and say a healty person should be able to euthanize themselves if they so chose.
 
ChewYxRage said:
That is crazy. I can see why it was voted down. Every person who is depressed for a few weeks would be killing themselves. I think there needs to be a documented medical reason....

I am not saying I like the concept.

But if what you say is true why arent all americans shooting themselves in the head whenever they are a little depressed? This thing actually has a three day lag, and you have to tell the pharmacist you want it.

I don't think people would use it lightly.

From an evolution standpoint it's not so bad if they do.
 
Gambino said:
I support it fully...I'll go even further and say a healty person should be able to euthanize themselves if they so chose.

So you would support making the pill of dryon available?
 
Robert Jan said:
So you would support making the pill of dryon available?


i didn't understand how that pill worked...but I would support a pill available with a doc's script and a month long screening...
 
Robert Jan said:
I am not saying I like the concept.

But if what you say is true why arent all americans shooting themselves in the head whenever they are a little depressed? This thing actually has a three day lag, and you have to tell the pharmacist you want it.

I don't think people would use it lightly.

From an evolution standpoint it's not so bad if they do.
very few people are willing to take themselves out violently, those are the people that are serious about it. There are many more cases of attempted suicide, by od'ing on something, inhaling fumes etc.... People seeking more painless ways to go. If such a pill were available all these attempted suicides would be succesfull suicides. Most of these people just have minor issues like being dumped or not getting enough attention, etc.... and most of the time those issues are gone after some time.
 
Life / Death decisions belong to one person - the person that life belongs to.

WTF is everyone involved in that for..
 
Robert Jan said:
That's pretty much what everyone is saying


everyone on ef says this, but the USA ef pop. is very un-proportionate of the overall pop.
 
I support the right of people to arrange for their own death; ie a terminal cancer patient to meet with a doctor and request to be "put down" - to use the horse term.

I don't support leaving that decision to anyone else, including a doctor, spouse, or next of kin, unless the patient has personally designated a family member to have that authority prior to the illness or accident that results in the terminal condition.
 
as long as the government doesn't start deciding who can and will die, then i am all for it.

lets start with them allowing us to sell our organs, though.
 
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