Do you really need ORAL'S??

[fullybuilt]

So i've been stressing lately about what oral to add to my next cycle. Cycle will be 12-16weeks with 1g test prop and 700g NPP(6iu's GH too). I was gonna run 75-100mg Tbol the first 4weeks and 75-100mg anavar the last 4weeks(or just run one of those compounds the last 8weeks) but then I got to thinking. It makes sense why someone would use orals to harden up while dieting, but this cycle is for lean mass. Im gonna try to pack on as much muscle as possible while staying fairly lean(no more than12-13%) and not excessively bloat. So, would I be better off adding some tren ace at 400mg per week or IGF-LR3 or some other injectable in place of the orals. Would that yeild more muscle or do the orals play a certain role? Thanks

 

[mikefear]

Typically it's just to kickstart the longer lasting esters..

 

[karachi183]

using orals generally is a preference and a kickstart.... so it's your choice

 

[digimon7068]

Not necessary. I love dbol but it frigs up my BP. . .probably won't use any orals again.

 

[swordfish151]

agreed...you dont have to have orals in your cycle...its a matter of preference

 

[GoldenDelicious]

orals are mainly just convenient. they act quickly and are easy to implement into a regime. the 'oral' route of administration says nothing of their pharmacotherapeutic worth...or lack of

cheers

 

[bigmouth2006]

So i've been stressing lately about what oral to add to my next cycle. Cycle will be 12-16weeks with 1g test prop and 700g NPP(6iu's GH too). I was gonna run 75-100mg Tbol the first 4weeks and 75-100mg anavar the last 4weeks(or just run one of those compounds the last 8weeks) but then I got to thinking. It makes sense why someone would use orals to harden up while dieting, but this cycle is for lean mass. Im gonna try to pack on as much muscle as possible while staying fairly lean(no more than12-13%) and not excessively bloat. So, would I be better off adding some tren ace at 400mg per week or IGF-LR3 or some other injectable in place of the orals. Would that yeild more muscle or do the orals play a certain role? Thanks

were are you going to put all that oil?

 

[BigCracker]

In my 16 yrs + of AAS useage I've always avoided orals for the most part. If I use them now its only a couple times a yr and that's in the summer when I'm wearing less clothing.

The only thing I like about orals is that you're putting an anabolic compound in your body on a daily basis. Oil based injectables are time released and that can be a little less predictable-especially if injecting into scar tissue.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

i had a terrible experience with winni oral...made my joints kill...but as far as anavar...I wish they would just make it injectable...

 

[fullybuilt]

were are you going to put all that oil?

I know, im not looking too forward to it. The NPP is 100mg/ml and so is the prop, so here is how im gonna do it. ED shots with 1cc of each. both shoulders, then both quads, then both glutes then repat. Also 1x per week will be 1shot of 250mg/ml enanthate.

 

[fullybuilt]

So which would you all pick to add to the NPP/HGH/Test cycle. I can either add 80mg Tbol ED for 6weeks, IGF-lr3 at around 40mcg ED for 4weeks on/4off then another 4on, or add 400mg Tren ace per week for 6weeks. They are all gonna cost around the same, but with the HGH,Test and NPP, which of the 3 would you all choose if your primary goal is to add as much muscle as possible? Thanks

 

[bigmouth2006]

tren for the most muscle but then you may run into gyno problems with the npp and tren combo

 

[Triple J]

mg for mg orals are stronger than injectables and with their longer active half-life in the bloodstream and regular daily dosing they will enhance the effect of any cycle

 

[SlimJim300]

mg for mg orals are stronger than injectables and with their longer active half-life in the bloodstream and regular daily dosing they will enhance the effect of any cycle

Not to mention, many have non-AR mediated effects. They can provide a good synergy if used correctly.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

yeah...and you dont have to stick yourself all the time...risking getting an infection...although latly I have really been looking forward to injections...that is when you truely know you have turned to the dark side of the force