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Do you really have to take roids to look good?

i believe using steroids is a personal choice and one that i do not agree with - theres a point where people get too big - and theres no way i want to look anything remote to what those mr olympia guys look like, thats disgusting- not human more like some kind of animal - anyway life is not all about getting jacked id say the ideal look for my height 5'10" is around 190 with around 5% or lower bf... with the model 10 pack abs and ripped
 
Kahn said:

Oh shit, you just upped my perfect weight by ten pounds. Now I'll have to go higher incase I ever run into you. I always figured 5'10 and 225 would be a hell of a carcass. I'll have it this yr

Well, shit if your going to weigh 235 then I'm going to have to weigh 236lbs. Yes, I belive the new perfect size is 236lbs.lol
 
arnieswarzennega said:
problem is steroid users you can't maintain muscle its all water !

Yeah your absoulutley right, Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, and Flex Wheeler are all water. I'm sure your alot more shredded then any of them.:nerd:
 
Eastflava0 said:
and theres no way i want to look anything remote to what those mr olympia guys look like, thats disgusting- not human more like some kind of animal

To each his own. Those guys bust their asses for years to look like that. Not everyone that juices is after or will achieve the look you are referring to. Regardless of the amounts of juice the top competitors use, they still generally have great genetics. Don't over-simplify it by saying all juicers will eventually look like them.


As others said, the look is a personal preference. If you mean do you have to juice to be above average weight with a lean musculature, then no you don't. If you want to be further above the norm than that, then probably.

Personally, I don't assume anyone is juicing just because they're big and ripped. Most of the time I'm pretty sure if they are, but I give them the benefit of the doubt. You never know when you're looking at a genetic freak ... rare, but it can happen.
 
you guys took my words out of context..
let me explain....
for example your on cycle off a cycle ,,, your big your small when does the madness end..

and i am not bashing i'm a bodybuilder myself for years..now
 
arnie post some pics or at least give your stats, and to reply to this thread Hell yea you can look good without roids. My roomate is 5'9 190 and is shredded to all hell and has never touched steroids. Ill have to get a pic of him to post here. Steroids only take time off the game and give you an extra advantage where genetics end
 
Arnie, when you have AAS running through your blood, you GREATLY increase the ability to grow muscle. You can grow in 10 weeks what it would take a year to grow naturally. Yes, side effects of AAs are water retention, but there is also a substantial amount of muscle developed while on cycle too. When you come off cycle, you CAN mantain the new 10-30lbs of muscle you put on while on cycle. You dont always loose everything you gain......
 
looks

I think you have to clearly distinguish between hardcore and fitness look. You CAN'Tt look hardcore without AS while you CAN achieve fitness look without it. Whatever you choose....
 
to look good you don't have to use steroids,
to look better you have to use 'em,
to look best you have to use all the roids you can get your hands on.

:D
 
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