do you miss taking pro-hormones and ephedra since the government banned them?

[coldblue1955]

or are you truly grateful for what they done?

 

[fitricise]

ephedra was unbanned...kind of

i dont know all the details but i think products have to be at a certain dosage

please correct me if im wrong

 

[lanky]

i am not a fan of the bush administration, not just for the whole PH ban, I do miss the innovation in some of the products i was seeing a few months before the ban was implemented, although banning of these supplements does hold some benifits, the adverse effect it will have on consumers health, on future supplements(especially the prosteroids) may be severe, becuse of the ban the supplement companies are forced to create new steroid chemical structures that have little(less than previous PH ban products) data on kinetics, pharmacodynamics, metabolites, half life, toxicity etc.. believe me, i have three AAS structures i have in my head right now that i have created so to speak(legal? who knows, its all how you interpret the new bill), but with my new creations i am hesitant regarding the safety of the drugs in the areas i stated previous im my post. One thing i would like to see is more testing before products are released, if it means just $75,000-100,000 more for some of these companies to run a very limited test on kinetics/uninary metabolite alone, then i will sleep beter at night.

 

[kingkrs]

I think that the ban on Ephedra was bullshit. Look at cigarettes and alchohol, they cause more harm than ephedra ever has. You have DUIs and people that get killed from that shit, do they ban beer? no chance. The alchohol and tobacco indutries have washington in their back pocket. The supplement industy does not.

 

[bittersuit_98]

That's funny. They banned pro hormones and by doing so, they made steroid dealers a big favor. Now, most bb's are better off giving the real deal a try. I guess no matter whose administration we are talking about, idiots will be out there ruling this country.

Personally, I don't miss pro hormones because they are expensive and they don't work. No wander why BB's rather take it to the next level huh!

Peace!

 

[coldblue1955]

I think that the ban on Ephedra was bullshit. Look at cigarettes and alchohol, they cause more harm than ephedra ever has. You have DUIs and people that get killed from that shit, do they ban beer? no chance. The alchohol and tobacco indutries have washington in their back pocket. The supplement industy does not.

i couldn't agree with you more!

 

[BOWTECH]

I think that the ban on Ephedra was bullshit. Look at cigarettes and alchohol, they cause more harm than ephedra ever has. You have DUIs and people that get killed from that shit, do they ban beer? no chance. The alchohol and tobacco indutries have washington in their back pocket. The supplement industy does not.

Good point.....It's all about the MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[nycgirl]

I think that the ban on Ephedra was bullshit. Look at cigarettes and alchohol, they cause more harm than ephedra ever has. You have DUIs and people that get killed from that shit, do they ban beer? no chance. The alchohol and tobacco indutries have washington in their back pocket. The supplement industy does not.

Don't forget the pharmaceutical industry. Sometimes I wonder if they want people to be overweight and unhealthy. The more I learn about this lifestyle, the more I think that a lot of the bannings (whatever it is) doesn't make sense to me at all and if there's another reason behind it.

I honestly think, if they could, they would "lobby" for Vit. C. to be listed as a drug so they can charge an arm and a leg for it.

 

[Graphite]

Hate it but at the same time it makes companies work harder to innovate supplements to be just as good as ephedra/pro-hormones etc.

 

[swole]

I stocked up on prohormones before the ban. I got amazing results from the 2 PH cycles I've completed...tons of planning and a solid PCT for both of them. I grew more of them then some of my boys did by pinning AAS.

I've used 1-AD, 4-AD, M1T and M4OHN...lots of liver stress though. Personally, I'm glad they banned them since it makes the decision to use AAS much easier to make.