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smallmovesal
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the same as a physical abuser?
i do.
what do you all think?
i do.
what do you all think?
do you equate verbal abuse as...
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People who verbally abuse others tend to lack badly in self esteem that they must belittle others to bring them down to their level. ADVICE: Get away from these type of people as fast as you can, or you may become one 
CRNT93 said:Well,it's not really the same...one is physical
and the other verbal
I'd rather get beaten. Wounds heal after a while...but words stick with you. My mom has said a lot of mean shit that stays in the back of my mind, always. You can't even say sorry cuz you always think, "Did he or she really mean it?"
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Warik
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Physical abuse injurges me. Verbal abuse does not.
So no.
-Warik
So no.
-Warik
smallmovesal
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yes i agree it is best to recognise these types of people for who they are and move on. i don't even feel sorry for them anymore.
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Warik
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Boach said:
How? He's dead. (Pardon the sad attempt at morbid humor).
Seriously, the question was "do you equate verbal abuse as the same as physical abuse..."
I gave the short answer, here's the long one.
The damage that physical abuse inflicts upon a person is dependent on the resistence of his body. The resistence of the body is out of the control of the person. Even if you have a powerful mind that tells you that you can stop bullets with your bare chest, you truly cannot.
Verbal abuse, however, will only inflict as much damage upon a person as that person will allow. The words: "fuck you, I hope you die!" uttered from the same person in the same fashion will have different effects on different people. Those words may be shattering to someone, but they will do nothing but spark uncontrollable laughter from me. I've been yelled at right in the face by teachers back in elementary school and had to hold back the laughter.
Sticks and stones... well, you know the rest.
-Warik
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Arioch said:
Indubitably.
-Warik
Puc
Banned
Warik said:
I had a premonition I was going to disagree with you on this one
Because, though I would consider your theory sound if applied to a logical, free-thinking adult, I would disagree in other circumstances. For instance, a child who is tormented by a parent.
A parent has an emotional grip on their child that cannot simply be ignored... and don't you dare be an elitist and claim a 5 year old should be undamaged by his mothers verbal abuse...
one should be strong enough to resist being hurt by verbal abuse.
unless your a child who cannot remove yourself from a situation.
if your an adult you really have no excuse.
you can
A)leave the abusive situation
B) retort with reason, or some abuse of your own
C) use a lead pipe to beat the abuser sensless
or
D) put yourself out of your own misery by propmtly visiting the closest meat factory and throwing yourself into the meat grinder
unless your a child who cannot remove yourself from a situation.
if your an adult you really have no excuse.
you can
A)leave the abusive situation
B) retort with reason, or some abuse of your own
C) use a lead pipe to beat the abuser sensless
or
D) put yourself out of your own misery by propmtly visiting the closest meat factory and throwing yourself into the meat grinder
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Warik
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Puc said:I had a premonition I was going to disagree with you on this one
Premonitions are unnecessary when the action has been ordained by a higher being and set into stone.
Puc said:
Oh, certainly.
Puc said:
Ahh... but let's analyze this more closely.
Now, is the question "SHOULD" a 5 year old be undamaged being asked in terms of literally or in a more, let's say, "abstract" form. Example:
Programmer writes code.
Code doesn't work.
Programmer: "This should work..."
Interpret that as you wish.
Way back when 13 year olds were mature adults who married and had children and put their children to work on the farm as soon as they learned how to walk, would we argue about the point that a 13 year old at that time should be undamaged by verbal abuse and think as an adult?
Now, today, 13 year olds are more immature than ever. We can't expect a 13 year old to function as an intelligent adult except in rare circumstances (i.e. people like me and others who somehow skipped past the bratty stupid kid phase).
So the question is, if 13 year olds were once considered rational adults who were expected to take this kind of abuse AS adults, how far back does the age requirement go? What about 12 year olds? 11?... maybe even 5. Is it possible to educate a child by the time he is 5 years old to have the reasoning abilities of a rational adult? Perhaps, perhaps not.
My point, however, was made in terms of a rational adult (i.e. me). If you are old enough to consider yourself an adult and you still shrivel up and cry at the first sign of someone disrespecting you, then shame on you.
-Warik
PHATchik
Studio Gangsta
IMO, you may not touch the person physically, but you can hurt them just as badly. Words can cut someone as well as a blade. Believe me, I have been hurt by something someone has said so badly that I would rather have been punched in the stomach or something. The pain would have been less painful and lengthy. Why do you think people talk about words being "a slap in the face"?
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Warik
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Puc said:It could also be stated that a 17 year old has the reasoning abilities to have a relationship with a 25 year old.
It could also be stated that a 25 year old does not have the reasoning abilities to have a relationship with a 17 year old due to the fact that the 25 year old felt that it was appropriate to have a relationship with a 17 year old despite the 17 year old's reasoning abilities.
MUHAHAHAHA.
-Warik
smallmovesal
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Austin316 said:
word.
toga22
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Verbal abuse is by far worse.....
Words that people say can always be carried with you....logged in your personal memory bank. And you can always say that they don't effect you...but they are there. And at moments of weakness, they come creeping back into your mind, making you doubt yourself, bringing you down.....
And for kids, verbal abuse can shape how they will think of themselves for the rest of their lives. Feeling insecure about themselves when making friends, attacking difficult tasks. It is by far one of the worst things a parent could ever do to a child!! It is a parents responsibility to provide their children with all of the tools to successfully make it through life and to instill a sense of self-worth and confidence.
Physical abuse....
There is no excuse for physical abuse.....it is simply a way for another to feel powerful, more important....in control.
Bruises and broken bones will heal as long you never let the abuser take away your spirit. For myself, I am stubborn and never back down....never give the other the satisfaction of winning. This is not always smart, mind you. They always tell women to lay down and play dead...then the attack will most likely end. But I could never give up without defending myself......
Now when this happens to kids.....the abuser should get the chair!
Words that people say can always be carried with you....logged in your personal memory bank. And you can always say that they don't effect you...but they are there. And at moments of weakness, they come creeping back into your mind, making you doubt yourself, bringing you down.....
And for kids, verbal abuse can shape how they will think of themselves for the rest of their lives. Feeling insecure about themselves when making friends, attacking difficult tasks. It is by far one of the worst things a parent could ever do to a child!! It is a parents responsibility to provide their children with all of the tools to successfully make it through life and to instill a sense of self-worth and confidence.
Physical abuse....
There is no excuse for physical abuse.....it is simply a way for another to feel powerful, more important....in control.
Bruises and broken bones will heal as long you never let the abuser take away your spirit. For myself, I am stubborn and never back down....never give the other the satisfaction of winning. This is not always smart, mind you. They always tell women to lay down and play dead...then the attack will most likely end. But I could never give up without defending myself......
Now when this happens to kids.....the abuser should get the chair!
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Taps
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Allrighty, I haven't really read all the responses thus far. Blame it on the huge -ass joint i just help finsih off, but my attention span isn't at it's peak.
As for verbal abuse vs. physical abuse....well, speaking as someone who's experienced both, I'd have to say that they're both about the same in terms of "damage". For me, the feeling of humiliation, whether it came from a physical or verbal beating, was the same.
Anyway, these days I'd rather have someone call me a name than punch me in the nose.
As for verbal abuse vs. physical abuse....well, speaking as someone who's experienced both, I'd have to say that they're both about the same in terms of "damage". For me, the feeling of humiliation, whether it came from a physical or verbal beating, was the same.
Anyway, these days I'd rather have someone call me a name than punch me in the nose.
XBiker
Well-known member
Have you forgot the sticks and stones rhyme?
This is what is happening to our society, the complete and total PUSSIFICATION (as George Carlin would say) of North America.
In case you all forgot, do allow me to remind.
Sticks and stones may break my bones,
but WORDS WILL NEVER HURT ME.
What's next, small, the devil made you do it and it's really not your fault??
This is what is happening to our society, the complete and total PUSSIFICATION (as George Carlin would say) of North America.
In case you all forgot, do allow me to remind.
Sticks and stones may break my bones,
but WORDS WILL NEVER HURT ME.
What's next, small, the devil made you do it and it's really not your fault??
Warik said:
I agree with your second point.
Just to clarifify the first part of your query.
The human brain functions mainly on the lower cortext from birth to around the age of 16 - 18 in girls and 17 - 20 in boys. Once Children reach these age catagories there upper lobes begin to function more predominantly in their respective thought processeses.
Hence the young person might understand the reasoning for a paticular event but may not be able to formulate that reasoning on there own. Since there upper lobes of their frontal cortext are not predominant in their thought process.
This is simply the nerological aspect of why you see young adults going from straight forward pat good vs. bad responses to more complex answers to any form of query. There are without a doubt countless other factors that come to play yet it is important to understand the root of anyones development in dealing with them.
havoc
Shaolin Ninja
Everyone is different. For me personally I don't care at all what one person may say, whatever it may be, if someone calls me every name in the book, tries to put me down in whatever way, I just say "sounds great, page me later ok?", I think if a personal attack gets under your skin then you place to much emphasis on someone elses thoughts, who cares? In one ear, right out the other. peace
gorilla_boy
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smallmovesal said:
They are one and the same. Heinous, unaceptable behaviour.
I break up with girls and eliminate friends very quickly when they show signs of being a poor arguer, the type that gets personal and hurtfull when they fight.
Someone (male or female) will only lift their hand to me once.
Warik said:
i agree.....
of course verbal abuse can cause huge trauma mentally.....but i dont equate the two as being the same purely by definition, as with physical abuse as warik pointed out it can affect anybody whereas verbal depends a lot more on the person
having said that both are disgusting at their extremes
Verbal abuse can be just as damaging to a child, if not more so, than physical abuse.
My mom and dad both said some pretty horrible stuff thats still effecting on me.
But at the end of the day, if the recipent of the abuse is a child, both forms of abuse really convey the same message - your worthless, Im more important than you, *add ur various parental insults here*
Ive come to the conclusion that people who practice this type of demeaning, belittling, insulting behavour, are really not worth my time. Especially when their ur parents.
Who the fuck would ever do that to a kid?! Unbeleivable.
My mom and dad both said some pretty horrible stuff thats still effecting on me.
But at the end of the day, if the recipent of the abuse is a child, both forms of abuse really convey the same message - your worthless, Im more important than you, *add ur various parental insults here*
Ive come to the conclusion that people who practice this type of demeaning, belittling, insulting behavour, are really not worth my time. Especially when their ur parents.
Who the fuck would ever do that to a kid?! Unbeleivable.
