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Do you believe in vengeance?

Norman Bates

Norman Bates

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Set aside that the law will probably punish you for that.
If you knew that no one will ever find you and someone had wronged you dearly with malicious intent, would you try to have vengeance on him?
 
In respects to remaining silent being rational?
Sure!
But any negative energy you put out comes back to you in some shape or fashion, same with positive, its just the law of mathematics
 
No. Life's too short to wallow in anger and misery. In the scheme of things, few things are a big deal-- not that betrayal, diappointment, or hurt are any fun, but they're not worth obsessing over. Drowning one's self in revenge plots/anger only keeps them in the past and hinders them moving forward with life.
 
Depends on what they did..... if it involves physical harm to either me or my family I will fuck the responsible party(s) up..... I have held a gun to someone's head before for threatning to rape my sister.

Other than that, if it involves property or money than I will let the cops or natural law sort it.
 
Vengeance can take many different shapes.


For a wrong done to me? No, I will turn my back and let the law handle it.


For a friend? It depends is it physical? Then there is a very good chance that I would react or do something.
 
dballer said:


Say that after someone fucks with your family.
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This is a good point, it takes self control and understanding to not take such an action, it is hard to do. peace
 
havoc said:

There is nothing institutional about vengeance.
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I mean if someone kills your family , the police caughts him and sends him to prison for the rest of his life. Isn´t that some kind of vengeance,too?
 
Norman Bates said:


I mean if someone kills your family , the police caughts him and sends him to prison for the rest of his life. Isn´t that some kind of vengeance,too?
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I hear you bro, but wouldnt that be more of a punishment because a law was broken, a law of the land, wouldnt this vengeance you are contemplating be a crime as well?
 
dballer said:


Say that after someone fucks with your family.
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Guess what? It IS possible... Do you remember Bouncer's thread several months back about the cop friend of his who blew away a KNOWN drug dealer for threatening his elderly mother?

True, the dealer is now dead.... BUT there are plenty more where he came from AND

He is now in prison and his elderly mother is ALONE.
 
in theory i would like to believe that i could let go and not seek vengeance, however I am human and that is where the pronlem comes in... with emotions you never know how you are gonna react to a given situation... i'd like to think i would do the right thing, but as from past experiences, i know that i don not always do the right thing.
 
I take pride in my compassion for others, but there is something about looking into the eyes of a person that you care about who has been hurt. Through no fault of their own, someone just picked them out, for what ever reason.
 
havoc said:

I hear you bro, but wouldnt that be more of a punishment because a law was broken, a law of the land, wouldnt this vengeance you are contemplating be a crime as well?
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Yes, of course it is forbidden. But i think the purpose of the law is to frighten criminals from doing crimes.
If there was no law, the threat of the familiy or friends taking vengeance will keep criminals from doing crimes ,at least partly?

So isn´t it in some kind similiar, with the difference that the party taking vengeance is more an institution to keep vengeance approbriate?
 
Bikinimom, in that thread about rape, didn´t you want to the rapers to get their genitals get cut off?

If the porpose of law is to keep him from doing it again, sending him for life to prison wouldn´t that be enough to do so?
WOuld that mutilation not be vengeance then?
 
saint808 said:
in theory i would like to believe that i could let go and not seek vengeance, however I am human and that is where the pronlem comes in... with emotions you never know how you are gonna react to a given situation... i'd like to think i would do the right thing, but as from past experiences, i know that i don not always do the right thing.
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I think that pretty much says it all there. Emotions are what will determine the outcome. The problem will be controlling your emotions which is no easy task. You need to weigh all possible outcomes before reacting.
 
Norman Bates said:


Yes, of course it is forbidden. But i think the purpose of the law is to frighten criminals from doing crimes.
If there was no law, the threat of the familiy or friends taking vengeance will keep criminals from doing crimes ,at least partly?

So isn´t it in some kind similiar, with the difference that the party taking vengeance is more an institution to keep vengeance approbriate?
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I disagree.
The purpose of the so called Law is to implement some sort of decency and anti chaotic activities. If there was no law shit would be extremely fucked. The majority of criminals repeat some type of crime after incarceration. Jail usually teaches negative lessons. Rehabilitation is uncommon.
In respects to similarities, only the act of violence and negativity is similar, nothing else. peace
 
If you think that all emotions have some purpose, for example if they evolved to make it possible to live in a community, of if you think that they were god given, isn´t than there a place in all off us for the "evil" emotions like hate and vengeance?
 
Norman Bates said:
Isn´t "do unto others as they did to you" a guideline for vengeance and even an instruction to do so?
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Maybe if you got that right.
Its "do unto others as you would like done unto yourself", which by your thinking you would want someone to take vengeance upon you.
 
That´s just another formulation for the "golden rule". Basically it´s the same, just from the point of view of the criminal.
It´s like saying if you wrong someone else you have to expect him to take vengeance on you.
 
I have no problem with vengeance against those who have seriously harmed (not theft or insults) the families of others. An example is the Runnion case in California. If the father or mother would blow away the murderer of their little girl, I would not have any negative thoughts against them. I question why the parents of the children molested by Catholic priests never exacted vengeance on them, I would have. It would have definately prevented the future molestation of other children.

This is an idea is contemplated by most parents, since it is always a possibility. I would kill anyone who harmed my wife or child, and I would gladly go before a jury of 12.

Also, this idea that the above type of vengeance is morally equivalent to what was perpetrated by the criminal, is ridiculous.
 
getting vengeance usually isn't worth the trouble.

but i support other people getting vengeance, because the fear of retaliation keeps scumsbags in check
 
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