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Do you believe in ESP?

For those inclined, ESP = Extra-sensory perception, a paranormal ability.
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
Do you believe everything Pen and Teller tell you Java?? lol
Nope....I just require evidence and at least they try to provide some unless other claims... :rolleyes:
 
javaguru said:
Nope....I just require evidence and at least they try to provide some unless other claims... :rolleyes:

I love pen and teller don't get me wrong, but they find the hugest rejects who oppose the point they are trying to get across, the most unbelievable most radical and rediculous people imaginable. Obviously for viewing pleasure, but it doesn't really provide much of a credible source.
 
My opinion is swinging like a pendulum....
I know of some black folks that were looking for a way to trace their ancestry back to Africa. Unfortunately you can trace it back to ports of slave trace , but there's no "Western" way of find out what African tribe you belonged to

I talked with an African on post that told me there are Shaman in Africa that with a simple palm reading can tell people all the time what tribe they belong to as well as tell them things that they should do.

So I'm not sure.
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
I love pen and teller don't get me wrong, but they find the hugest rejects who oppose the point they are trying to get across, the most unbelievable most radical and rediculous people imaginable. Obviously for viewing pleasure, but it doesn't really provide much of a credible source.


+1...........I think they're funny too, but the roll out severe misfits. I don't beleive in any bullshit I see on TV.......but I've seen enough on my own to sense there's something underlying that connects all of us and some people can sense it better than others. It's probably not a gift that natural selection would find overwhelmingly attractive........I can imagine someone who can't turn that shit off would go insane. But at drastic times of need I think it's there for us..........happened to me so that's why I give it credence.
 
if I had ESP, I would just live in Vegas, play poker and pwn peeps all day
 
gjohnson5 said:
My opinion is swinging like a pendulum....
I know of some black folks that were looking for a way to trace their ancestry back to Africa. Unfortunately you can trace it back to ports of slave trace , but there's no "Western" way of find out what African tribe you belonged to

I talked with an African on post that told me there are Shaman in Africa that with a simple palm reading can tell people all the time what tribe they belong to as well as tell them things that they should do.

So I'm not sure.
I can trace my ancestry back to some insignificant German nobles and it doesn't impact my life in any way other than understanding where I cam from. I make my life in my own way and my grandfather's pedigree didn't give me any solace...I had to make it on my own steam.
 
javaguru said:
I can trace my ancestry back to some insignificant German nobles and it doesn't impact my life in any way other than understanding where I cam from. I make my life in my own way and my grandfather's pedigree didn't give me any solace...I had to make it on my own steam.

just cause you had to make it on your own steam doesn't make a life any less credible for those who've made it seeking guidance.
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
just cause you had to make it on your own steam doesn't make a life any less credible for those who've made it seeking guidance.
It does if they heard voices in their head and people can "make it" peddling bullshit.....televangelists are a perfect example..
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
just cause you had to make it on your own steam doesn't make a life any less credible for those who've made it seeking guidance.

For informational purposes only.
I agree that a scam is a scam TV Evangelist or the at home business make 10,000 a month. I know both are used to get peoples hopes up.

But just like Forrest Griffin beating Rampage Jackson what if the improbably does come true?? Are we to believe that UFC is fixed or did he really win???

Who knows?
 
i knew you were gonna make this thread!!! have you ever had a dream about something stupid and it came true within the week??? i used to be like damn i haven't seen that one movie in years and magically it would come on. the second i got smart and was like damn i haven't had a blowjob in a while. it stopped happening :( use your powers for good!!
 
javaguru said:
Do you believe in ESP?


of course, i look at skeptics now days as being just plain ignorant, there are millions of ufo signtings a year but people have to see them to beleive it, millions of ghost sighting and huantings but people have to see it to believe it. no doubte in my mind that some peope have these powers, i'd say that it's satanic but i dont know, Iv people that were born with this ability and go to church everyday and are scared of it....they can see things happening before it happens, like an everyday thing, not just once in a while
 
big_bad_buff said:
of course, i look at skeptics now days as being just plain ignorant, there are millions of ufo signtings a year but people have to see them to beleive it, millions of ghost sighting and huantings but people have to see it to believe it. no doubte in my mind that some peope have these powers, i'd say that it's satanic but i dont know, Iv people that were born with this ability and go to church everyday and are scared of it....they can see things happening before it happens, like an everyday thing, not just once in a while
Tell them to pm me the lotto numbers and I'll split it 50/50 with them.
 
I believe some poeple have heightened senses or unusual luck that allows them to "predict" events that occur. Sort of like how a fly detects differences in air pressure to escape the newspaper just before it strikes.
 
Java....do you have no sense of wonder? That's kind of sad to me....to be SO confined by what can be proven. I'm not talking about religion.

I believe most people who claim to be psychic are most definitely not, and fraudulent. I do believe extra sensory perception exists however, if only in the connection we have to those we love most. My father has an uncanny connection to me that has occasionally been precognitive. I'd rather not get into details, but what he does can only be explained by something currently beyond our understanding.
 
nefertiti said:
Java....do you have no sense of wonder? That's kind of sad to me....to be SO confined by what can be proven. I'm not talking about religion.

I believe most people who claim to be psychic are most definitely not, and fraudulent. I do believe extra sensory perception exists however, if only in the connection we have to those we love most. My father has an uncanny connection to me that has occasionally been precognitive. I'd rather not get into details, but what he does can only be explained by something currently beyond our understanding.
I chalk the family stuff up to "intuition." By that I mean when you know someone very well you can anticipate certain things about their behavior. I could finish my ex-wife's sentences and I don't chalk it up to ESP.
 
nefertiti said:
Java....do you have no sense of wonder? That's kind of sad to me....to be SO confined by what can be proven. I'm not talking about religion.

I believe most people who claim to be psychic are most definitely not, and fraudulent. I do believe extra sensory perception exists however, if only in the connection we have to those we love most. My father has an uncanny connection to me that has occasionally been precognitive. I'd rather not get into details, but what he does can only be explained by something currently beyond our understanding.
Maybe I don't have a sense of "wonder" but it has sheltered me from con men that wanted to tell me everything I would like to believe in...just sayin'
 
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