Do you all agree on PCT???

[shortstack]

How many of you guys still use Clomid in your PCT?

i still use clomid, even tho i turn into a lil bitch whilst on it.
now i know why woman are so miserable all the time

 

[instant.muscle]

if chlomid makes ur nuts turn back on, y do they make such feelings like this? because of the sudden hormone bump up?

 

[DIVISION]

i have read that some people dont believe in it. can i hear your opinion?

It doesn't matter whether I "believe" in it or not!

PCT to my nutz only made my sperm count fatter!









DIV

 

[Slyder190]

Biggest debate seems to be when to incorperate HCG. I'm on the "During" side of the fence.

 

[sigmund]

Biggest debate seems to be when to incorperate HCG. I'm on the "During" side of the fence.

My thinking is to incorporate HCG a couple of weeks prior to completion of a cycle (not mid-cycle but say at week 8 of a 10 week cycle).

So 2 weeks before coming off and then 1 or 2 weeks post cycle - used in conjunction with Nolva / Clomid.

Nolva / Clomid would be continued for a further 3 weeks, as per the usual PC protocol (see PCT board).

During the last couple weeks of a cycle LH / FSH are suppressed as a result of the exogenous testosterone so it seems to make sense to use the HCG prior to coming off as a kick start to the recovery schedule.

If testicular size is back to normal at the conclusion of the cycle rather than 3 weeks post cycle I would think it should help maintain gains and ensure an even smoother recovery.

Jenetic informs me that this recovery technique would be similar to one where the individual takes a very small dose (eg. 250-300 IU's) throughout the entire cycle (ie. Mon / Wed / Fri).

I think both techniques would work well but am slightly concerned about Leydig cell desensitization from HCG (even though it shouldn't occur if you use a very low dose coupled with Nolva).

 

[boston basher]

If you're not interested in keeping any of the hard earned gains.....then PCT is a waste of time. I see these fellas at the gym. They're big as hell for a few months. Then a few months later back to the same size. They juice again, shrink again, juice again, shrink again, ect.......and after a number of years they don't look any different than when they started. Always follow Jenetic's protocol....seems to work better than any other method for me.

Very well said!

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

I run 200IUs of HCG E3D while on.

 

[Qphoton]

Do you all agree on steroids ?!!!

hey ...what based on science couldn't be put aside ...don't you believe in ..my balls are gone, sometimes you need hubble telescoep to see'em anyway i am on whatever is said ?
p.s. feel free to borrow my balls when you couldn't find yours
i love you all guys ...clomid / hcg / tamoxi.

 

[crfpilot14]

some good info on this thread over at AF...

http://anabolicfitness.infopop.net/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=702093973&f=312093973&m=413100013

 

[lostlazy]

PCT...Good Stuff...Clomid works sometimes, other time it makes me a bitch. Either way, I get in the sac alot quicker with PCT.