Do Not Use Herbal Diuretics...

[Nelson Montana]

...that contain Hydrangea! Hydrangea is used as a "urinary tonic" and is an ingredient in many diuretics, but Hydrangea is HIGHLY ESTROGENIC -- so much so it's used in the treatment of peri-menopause.

A reminder and a heads up to new members -- DEFINITION is an all natural powerful diuretic designed for bodybuilders to control bloat while on cycle and it contains NO Hydrangea. There are many other supplements that contain herbs that work against your goals but these supps are put together by people who haven't got a clue what they're doing. Buyer beware.

 

[dabuffguy]

...that contain Hydrangea! Hydrangea is used as a "urinary tonic" and is an ingredient in many diuretics, but Hydrangea is HIGHLY ESTROGENIC -- so much so it's used in the treatment of peri-menopause.

A reminder and a heads up to new members -- DEFINITION is an all natural powerful diuretic designed for bodybuilders to control bloat while on cycle and it contains NO Hydrangea. There are many other supplements that contain herbs that work against your goals but these supps are put together by people who haven't got a clue what they're doing. Buyer beware.

What about your product ZIP? How does that compare in fat loss against other top fat loss products?

 

[Nelson Montana]

What about your product ZIP? How does that compare in fat loss against other top fat loss products?

ZIP is a one of a kind product in that it doesn't any stims, not even caffeine. Oddly enough, caffeine SPARES fat loss! Yes, because it provide energy via a drug route, the body doesn't use carbs or fat for energy. Ironic, isn't it? However, people feel energetic, train harder and think they're burning more calories. But in the end, any fat that is lost will return. Not that all caffeine products are bad, it's just one part of the equation. The thyroid is the other.

ZIP is less dramatic but provides long lasting results because it gets the thyroid to burn fat for fuel. The fat loss is more subtle but it's more "real." It's like the difference between Primo and Drol. The drol appears to give tremendous gains but you piss twice and lose 20 pounds. What you gain is slower and less dramatic with Primo but it's more solid. Same with ZIP.

 

[dabuffguy]

ZIP is a one of a kind product in that it doesn't any stims, not even caffeine. Oddly enough, caffeine SPARES fat loss! Yes, because it provide energy via a drug route, the body doesn't use carbs or fat for energy. Ironic, isn't it? However, people feel energetic, train harder and think they're burning more calories. But in the end, any fat that is lost will return. Not that all caffeine products are bad, it's just one part of the equation. The thyroid is the other.

ZIP is less dramatic but provides long lasting results because it gets the thyroid to burn fat for fuel. The fat loss is more subtle but it's more "real." It's like the difference between Primo and Drol. The drol appears to give tremendous gains but you piss twice and lose 20 pounds. What you gain is slower and less dramatic with Primo but it's more solid. Same with ZIP.

When used in combination with a product that does produce more dramatic results, wil ZIP help to maintain that extra fat loss that maybe ZIP wsn't responsible for?

I mean, say I use ZIP in combintation with Lipoflame from AGX sports, will I get the best of both worlds? Or is it not ideal to stack two fat loss products? Seeing as most fat loss products contain caffiene, will the caffiene "override" the process ZIP actuates in the body.

 

[Nelson Montana]

When used in combination with a product that does produce more dramatic results, wil ZIP help to maintain that extra fat loss that maybe ZIP wsn't responsible for?

I mean, say I use ZIP in combintation with Lipoflame from AGX sports, will I get the best of both worlds? Or is it not ideal to stack two fat loss products? Seeing as most fat loss products contain caffiene, will the caffiene "override" the process ZIP actuates in the body.

ZIP and Lipoflame make an excellent stack. As long as the boost from the caffeine is utilized (like for an extra hard workout) you're cool. The problem is when guys jus start popping that stuff to jack them throughout the day, the effect will backfire. ZIP and Lipoflame will compliment each other and honestly, I'm surprised more people don't use that combo. Those who have, love it.

 

[splperformance]

ZIP sounds like an interesting product to add to my current test e/eq/var stack that i'm on...i've never researched ZIP so how long can you take it for?

 

[Nelson Montana]

ZIP sounds like an interesting product to add to my current test e/eq/var stack that i'm on...i've never researched ZIP so how long can you take it for?

Indefinitely. It isn't suppressive and it's actually healthy for your thyroid. But like other supps, it loses a little kick after a couple of months in which case it's good to take a break for a week or two and then go back on.

 

[dabuffguy]

ZIP and Lipoflame make an excellent stack. As long as the boost from the caffeine is utilized (like for an extra hard workout) you're cool. The problem is when guys jus start popping that stuff to jack them throughout the day, the effect will backfire. ZIP and Lipoflame will compliment each other and honestly, I'm surprised more people don't use that combo. Those who have, love it.

I can purchas it here, right?

I was going to order lipoflame this week, and became interested in this as well to stack.