Do I really need HCG?

[TheGooch]

ok, I have 5 more weeks until my current cycle of:

50mg Tren A ED
50mg Test Prop ED
200mg EQ twice a week

ends. Before that, i was on 10 weeks of:

250mg Test E
50mg of Winny inj

so it was basically a looong cycle.

I have Clomid, Nolvadex on hand, but no HCG. I can get it if i really need it...

Lemme know what you think my PCT should look like...i can get Arimidex and pretty much anything else as well...I am not really interested in Dermacrine, so please spare me.

What I'm looking for is how you would put together a PCT so I have no crash, and get my test production back...

Im 6"2, 215, 14-16% BF right now...and 35 years young!

Gracias

 

[big greg 82]

you really dont need it but it would def help and speed up the process. tren is very strong and hard to recover from it, well for me it was but i love tren. i would get it if you can and use clomid and hcg.

 

[big greg 82]

how is your cycle coming along? gain wise...?

 

[TheGooch]

ok, thanks. What do you think my dosages should look like. I know its prolly in a sticky, but i'm laaaaaaazy today!!

Im 6'2", 215, 14% BF

 

[TheGooch]

how is your cycle coming along? gain wise...?

well, Im only on Day 6 of Tren/ Prop...Sweating alot, strength is good, but too early to tell...

Major insomnia so far...took 2 klonopin last night!

 

[big greg 82]

haha ahh the good old tren sides. wait until the weird dreams start! on the hcg i would run 500iu a day for two weeks.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Get some HCG in you system ASAP. Just a 500iu EOD for a few weeks will greatly enhance your recovery time and help prevent the crash. Thats only one amp of 5000iu HCG... and too cheap to be lazy about it.

-Pp

 

[solidspine]

HCG is your best bet, if it were me, I would just start the next cycle, with out the hcg.

 

[airsmith2k]

i dont care wat anyone says hcg is the BEST pct you can take its far better then clomid i think

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

i dont care wat anyone says hcg is the BEST pct you can take its far better then clomid i think

HCG on it's own is absolutely stupid advice as a PCT run. You need clomid and if you hate clomid sides you can run nolva although it's not as effective. HCG is supplememntal NOT primary in PCT.

 

[TheGooch]

ok, thanks for all the replies

So, you think I should get some HCG into me now??

I can pick it up this weekend! How do you inject it? Sub-Skin or intromuscular?

And maybe you guys could name some dosages and lenths of time for mee too...sorry, rather have you bros recommend it than go searchin' for it.

BTW, the wacky dreams have already started! Way Wacked out! And I was reaaaaal edgy there for the first few days...everyone told me that. Total Short Fuse. But now I learned to not let anything bother me...

 

[big greg 82]

you could do it sub-q or IM. and run it 500iu eod for 2 weeks.

 

[Stainless_Steel]

It's so cheap, why not it can only help you recover faster. Since you where on a long cycle I would definately reccomend it. I use an insulin needle Sub-Q in the stomach(painless). I do 500iu ed for 10 days after last shot, but everyone has there own way of doing it. Some say to do it before your last shot and not during pct b/c it may keep you shut down. For me 500iu ed for 10 days after last injection works, so that's the way I do it.

 

[pentatonic]

HCG on it's own is absolutely stupid advice as a PCT run. You need clomid and if you hate clomid sides you can run nolva although it's not as effective. HCG is supplememntal NOT primary in PCT.

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[needtogetaas]

Get some HCG in you system ASAP. Just a 500iu EOD for a few weeks will greatly enhance your recovery time and help prevent the crash. Thats only one amp of 5000iu HCG... and too cheap to be lazy about it.

-Pp

good advice.....

 

[airsmith2k]

HCG on it's own is absolutely stupid advice as a PCT run. You need clomid and if you hate clomid sides you can run nolva although it's not as effective. HCG is supplememntal NOT primary in PCT.

yeh rite i know alotta guys that just do hcg when they come off and they feel great....last time i came off i just took clomid and my test levels never really came back at all

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

yeh rite i know alotta guys that just do hcg when they come off and they feel great....last time i came off i just took clomid and my test levels never really came back at all

I never use HCG unlress I'm coming off a long run of test or a nandralone. In that case I always use HCG for the last 2 weeks of my cycle and the first week of PCT. Clomid is IMO essential to really recover fully in a short time.

 

[needtogetaas]

yeh rite i know alotta guys that just do hcg when they come off and they feel great....last time i came off i just took clomid and my test levels never really came back at all

there is more then a few bro's on this site that say they do not recover using clomid ether...some people just don't.

 

[TheGooch]

Well, this was informative. Either way, I'm off to Mex tomorrow and I'll pick up 10,000 iu's of HCG and more Clomid...only have 30 pills.

Another story that just happened to me 5 minutes ago!

I run/ walk to my Gym since it's only 1.5 miles away. I live in a Beach town, so we have TONS of homeless people! Not the kind that really need help, but the ones that drink aaaallll day, mooch $$, and are just pure scammers. Its getting reeeaaaalllly bad here!

So there is this Bum that rides around on a motorized bike with a trailer attached and a friggin flag on the back. Always sits on the sidewalk with a big cardboard sign that says "Help, being prosecuted by government, yada yada.." He's basically taking advantage of all the tourists and mooches dough from them. Noone, not even the cops can stand him.

Well, a while back, my girl touched his bike, he grabbed her, and I ended up smackin him. Well, he pulled out Mace and ruined me right in the Face!

So when I saw him tonite, I was kinda irrate and I tossed his bike on the sidewalk...maybe not a smart move, but the guy is a fuckin con artist loser! Even the cops agree

I really coulda laid this guy out flat, but you know what: I DIDN'T! Cops showed up, asked some questions and arrested him..haha!

Anyway, point is, no Tren Rage. Stayed calm and collected, and the officers where on my side. The male cop even said "Why didn't you just thump him?"

Wanted to vent...

 

[hesnobradpitt]

funny story good break from readen info posts ,
and i like the 10 days off 250hcg after last shot.
Brad.

 

[snower6]

I personally recover so much quicker and keep gains better with HCG. CLomid does the trick but the HCG boosts your natural test so quick that it helps you keep the energy up

 

[pentatonic]

I always use HCG with all my cycles but I would never use it alone as my PCT. I always run Nolva along with it and afterwards and have always had excellent results with blood tests to prove it.

 

[Smokescreen]

Sorry to go off the subject here. But doesn't HCG also increase progesterone? Anthony said yes to this about HCG. Reports said the same thing. And when I'm on HCG (even low dose) and get blood work done. My progesterone is always high! Off range high!