DNP................on a bulking cycle?????

[Big_Nims]

Would one be able to take a low dose of dnp, say 200mg everyother day, while on a bulking cycle, to keep the fat gain to a minimum, and still be able to make good gains? or would the dnp prevent you from making any muscle(size)gains?

 

[HULKSTER]

I'd like to see you juice up on Dbol, then lift, all the while your body is on DNP. Christ, bro, if you don't pass out first, you are going to go through every single towel in the gym.

 

[Citruscide]

Your muscle can't grow while on DNP... it just isn't possible.

First, you don't know enough about the drug (no offense) to think of taking it... by this I mean... it requires an extensive amount of research... this question is answered toward the beginning of your research.

DNP inhibits ATP production in the mitochondria of your metabolically active cells... While, in use over short periods of time, say 8 days, DNP will not catabolize muscle (if proper precautions are taken), it will prevent the GROWTH of muscle.

Also, you will not have the strength to have any effective workouts.

Furthermore, if you take DNP throughout a 10-12 week period, not even glycerol or all the water in the world will keep it from catabolizing your muscles. Muscles, when they are dehydrated, catabolize... the glycerol will help, but short term... also, there would be a tremendious build-up of DNP in your system... you'd stink, you'd have to wash your sheets everyday, your cum would be nice, yellow and stinky... I'm sure all the girls would love to choke on that...

All in all: Bad Idea.

I'm waiting for SG to chime in and say you are unworthy of DNP use.

C-ditty

 

[Big_Nims]

Thanks for the info bro's, but your wrong about one thing, I am very well informed about dnp, it's uses for "Weight Loss", as well as what supplements I should take, and which ones work for me and which ones dont. 400mg is my usual dosage, and I am able to not only workout on my regular schedule, but also do cardio. I have done two cycles of dnp before, but my question was, if taken in very low dosages say 100mg everyday, would it be possible to bulk? I seem to have read somewhere that fina and dnp worked well together, not only was the person able to loose bodyfat, but he was able to add some lean body mass. I will search for the post, and then post the link. Thanks for the info though, thats what I was looking for.

Here is the link to the post;http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=159243&highlight=fina+and+dnp

but you were right, he didnt gain any weight, he just lost bodyfat.

 

[Riker29]

Thanks for the info bro's, but your wrong about one thing, I am very well informed about dnp, it's uses for "Weight Loss", as well as what supplements I should take, and which ones work for me and which ones dont. 400mg is my usual dosage, and I am able to not only workout on my regular schedule, but also do cardio. I have done two cycles of dnp before, but my question was, if taken in very low dosages say 100mg everyday, would it be possible to bulk?

This would be an example of two things really working against each other.

Its not smart.

 

[Big_Nims]

Cardio is done on the days that I dont lift.

 

[ripper2]

if you're worried about gaining fat on a bulking cycle, why don't you just pay the slightest little bit of attention to what you are eating instead of just stuffing yourself with pizza, taco bell, etc. if you eat clean you won't have nearly as much fat gain

 

[Citruscide]

Thanks for the info bro's, but your wrong about one thing, I am very well informed about dnp, it's uses for "Weight Loss", as well as what supplements I should take, and which ones work for me and which ones dont. 400mg is my usual dosage, and I am able to not only workout on my regular schedule, but also do cardio. I have done two cycles of dnp before, but my question was, if taken in very low dosages say 100mg everyday, would it be possible to bulk? I seem to have read somewhere that fina and dnp worked well together, not only was the person able to loose bodyfat, but he was able to add some lean body mass. I will search for the post, and then post the link. Thanks for the info though, thats what I was looking for.

I'm not saying you can't workout or do cardio... some people are more resistant to DNP... in fact... I don't want to "encourage" people to do this... but people who have run MANY MANY DNP cycles, have taken 800mg with not much problems before... so to say you can workout and do cardio on 400... doesn't surprise me.

Like I said... muscle can't grow in the state that DNP places it. It doesn't have the energy to produce... as I said... DNP inhibits ATP in the mitochondria of EVERY metobolically active cell... including your muscles... IMO... you shouldn't do heavy workouts on DNP... but light, 25 rep exercises...

I have read, that 200mg once a week, during a cycle could help raise your BMR for the following 3 days... and hence, help in fat reduction over a period of time. I disagree with this, as DNP will store up in your system over the period of a long cycle... and while it may only be active for 36-48 hours after you take it... it will have a compounding effect with DNP that is in your system... this is why a 8 day on, 8 day off and then 8 day on again cycle of DNP is VERY effective, the second 8 days will experience much more fat burning than the first.

Basically... I wouldn't take DNP with anything but anavar... and I would only do light working out... and limited cardio while on it... if you feel more comfortable doing heavier exercises or heavy cardio... then be my guest, but I would never suggest it.

C-ditty

 

[Big_Nims]

Thanks bro.

 

[The Shadow]

I must disagree slightly with C=ditty.....a friend ran dnp as part of a cutting stack with suspension, fina and eq, anavar and a boatload of creatine and actually gained about 8 pounds of lean mass during his 8 week diet run

with dnp.....drink a 16 oz glass of water EVERY hous you are awake...boatload c, E and magnesium, use melatonin and or valerian root.....if your appetite is down because you feel shitty force yourself to eat a small meal and I guarantee you will feel batter due to the depletion of ATP

 

[The Shadow]

I must disagree slightly with C=ditty.....a friend ran dnp as part of a cutting stack with suspension, fina and eq and actually gained about 8 pounds of lean mass during his 8 week diet run

with dnp.....drink a 16 oz glass of water EVERY hous you are awake...boatload c, E and magnesium, use melatonin and or valerian root.....if your appetite is down because you feel shitty force yourself to eat a small meal and I guarantee you will feel batter due to the depletion of ATP

 

[satchboogie]

I must disagree slightly with C=ditty.....a friend ran dnp as part of a cutting stack with suspension, fina and eq and actually gained about 8 pounds of lean mass during his 8 week diet run

with dnp.....drink a 16 oz glass of water EVERY hous you are awake...boatload c, E and magnesium, use melatonin and or valerian root.....if your appetite is down because you feel shitty force yourself to eat a small meal and I guarantee you will feel batter due to the depletion of ATP

there's nothing to disagree about.. you can disagree that they sky isnt' blue if you're colorblind but the fact remains the same.

as far as the gains that your friend made...

with enough gear and heavy training perhaps one can acutally build enough quality muscle but for the majority it simply woudln't work.

 

[Big_Nims]

This is why I posted this question in the first place, conflicting answers. Some say yes, while others say no. It does seem that fina was used in both cases along with the dnp and some gains were able to be made? Maybe I should just try it out for myself and post the results. Anyone out there willing to foot the bill for the fina Just joking, bumping for any more input.............

 

[The Shadow]

there's nothing to disagree about.. you can disagree that they sky isnt' blue if you're colorblind but the fact remains the same.

as far as the gains that your friend made...

with enough gear and heavy training perhaps one can acutally build enough quality muscle but for the majority it simply woudln't work.

wow...you can drop the attitude......a BLANKET statement was made that you cant make gains on dnp - I pointed out that it is possible........this "majority" statement puzzles me.....are you stating that the vast majority that followed the recipe I mentioned would not gain anymuscle??

Or are you stating that naturals would not gain while on dnp??


Theres a laugh - "nattys" on dnp


lmao

 

[satchboogie]

wow...you can drop the attitude......a BLANKET statement was made that you cant make gains on dnp - I pointed out that it is possible........this "majority" statement puzzles me.....are you stating that the vast majority that followed the recipe I mentioned would not gain anymuscle??

Or are you stating that naturals would not gain while on dnp??


Theres a laugh - "nattys" on dnp


lmao

what i'm saying is that with enough gear, muscle gains and fat loss is possible even with the combination of t3, dnp AND a low calorie diet. the majority will make very little gains on a moderate anabolic dose while on dnp. let me stress... LITTLE GAINS! surely a higher dose can lead to, at most, moderate gains while on dnp.

for naturals that simply isn't the case...

dnp will burn muscle and fat and i cant see how any experienced natural dnp user can argue that.

 

[Citruscide]

wow...you can drop the attitude......a BLANKET statement was made that you cant make gains on dnp - I pointed out that it is possible........this "majority" statement puzzles me.....are you stating that the vast majority that followed the recipe I mentioned would not gain anymuscle??

Or are you stating that naturals would not gain while on dnp??


Theres a laugh - "nattys" on dnp


lmao

Well... for the most part... DNP isn't taken with large amounts of anabolics. 8lbs with everything he was on... isn't much at all. No doubt, the DNP hindered much of his gains over that period of time. It is not Impossible, but improbable...

I would venture to say that the vast majority wouldn't get on the recipe that you stated... But if one were to load up with Fina/EQ/Anavar and a boatload (what is the quantatative measurement of that???) ... then I wouldn't say it is impossible... I am saying that not everyone could expect to gain 8lbs of LEAN Body mass... they could gain less... hell, they could gain more...

The general premise is that muscles cannot grow because of a lack of ATP ... however, if there is enough anabolic effect... it could work... but I wouldn't bet the kitchen sink on it.

I look at DNP as a cutting/fat loss drug.. .I try not to mix it in with other agents to build lean mass at the same time as losing fat.

C-ditty

 

[Citruscide]

Corn... how much DNP was he on over that period of time? Was he on it daily? or Tri-daily?

I could see on a low dosage... but everyday at 400mg DNP+ It would be HIGHLY improbable...

C-ditty

 

[satchboogie]

CITRUS...

check out thread "t3 vs. t4".

i wanna hear what you have to say homee.