discontinuing TREN cycle!

[leonidas33]

4 weeks into tren cycle at 50mg ED tren and 100mg ED Test....

I honestly think the little gains I did get, I got from the test.

I am lethargic and have restless sleep. I had my cholesterol tested this morning and the numbers are...

total = 185
hdl = N/A
ldl = N/A

so had them run it again...

total = 187
hdl = N/A
ldl = N/A

Based on some formula with triglycerides, they were able to determine hdl < 15

I don't see the point in continuing the tren for the next 4 weeks. I am going to continue with 500mg test/week and then back to my cruising dose of 200mg/week.

 

[st8grad]

You triglycerides must be through the roof if they can't break down your LDL and HDL.

Are you on an anti-e bro? I'm wondering if the f-ed up lipids and the lethargy may be from that.

But if you drop the tren and start to feel better at least problem solved from sleep/energy standpoint.

That's awesome you can get your lab results in a hour rather than a couple days. You must have a personal doctor.

What's your BP like? Also did you lay down your diet in an earlier post about this?

 

[leonidas33]

You triglycerides must be through the roof if they can't break down your LDL and HDL.

Are you on an anti-e bro? I'm wondering if the f-ed up lipids and the lethargy may be from that.

But if you drop the trenbolone and start to feel better at least problem solved from sleep/energy standpoint.

That's awesome you can get your lab results in a hour rather than a couple days. You must have a personal doctor.

What's your BP like? Also did you lay down your diet in an earlier post about this?

tris' through the roof? not quite... 49 first test and 56 second test...

I do have an anti-e on hand but havn't touched it but once or twice during entire cycle at low dose of around .5mg.

The local hospital has a wellness center where you can walk in and have cholesterol screenings done... the results are instant.

BP? i have check it a few occasions in last 4 weeks and worst reading was around 137/72, best being 123/67.

 

[perryscoon]

You're quiting because you haven't seen results in 4 weeks???

Is this your first cycle?

 

[the_alcatraz]

Bro, results will come, just hang in there....you're not going to be ronnie coleman in 4 weeks....

 

[leonidas33]

You're quiting because you haven't seen results in 4 weeks???

Is this your first cycle?

dude, I know you are a tren junky based on previous posts I've seen of you. So I know what your position is on tren before you even begin.

No, not my first cycle.

Considering the fact that the ONLY results I have seen are negatives, I am discontinuing the tren.

What? do you expect the shit to all the sudden kick in? I doubt it. I am really questioning the shit cause it is from a new source.

 

[leonidas33]

Bro, results will come, just hang in there....you're not going to be ronnie coleman in 4 weeks....

could give a fuk about looking like ronnie coleman!

DUDE my HDL is LESS THAN 15!!!!

Unlike a lot of guys on here, my health is the most important thing to me.

Considering I am getting NO results at 4 weeks in on a TREN cycle which is typically ONLY an 8 week cycle, why continue battering my lipids????

 

[freeze2000]

What about strength gains? I started tren ace 4 weeks ago to this day, bench has gone up 50 pounds.... Ive gained about 10 pounds and lost about 20 pounds fat.

Im running 100mg eod tren, 100mg eod test.


The fatloss hasn't been the best but the strength gains are incredible.

 

[corto]

Id say finish your cycle man...some people react different then others.

 

[leonidas33]

What about strength gains? I started trenbolone ace 4 weeks ago to this day, bench has gone up 50 pounds.... Ive gained about 10 pounds and lost about 20 pounds fat.

Im running 100mg eod trenbolone, 100mg eod test.


The fatloss hasn't been the best but the strength gains are incredible.

Thank YOU! Nothing compared to this.

 

[leonidas33]

Id say finish your cycle man...some people react different then others.

so even though lipids are in gutter, no positive results thus far, and questioning if bunk gear... you still think the next 4 weeks could improve?

i would like to ask though, if gear is bunk, would it still have this kind of effect on lipids?

 

[Big Rick Rock]

4 weeks into trenbolone cycle at 50mg ED trenbolone and 100mg ED Test....

I honestly think the little gains I did get, I got from the test.

I am lethargic and have restless sleep. I had my cholesterol tested this morning and the numbers are...

total = 185
hdl = N/A
ldl = N/A

so had them run it again...

total = 187
hdl = N/A
ldl = N/A

Based on some formula with triglycerides, they were able to determine hdl < 15

I don't see the point in continuing the trenbolone for the next 4 weeks. I am going to continue with 500mg test/week and then back to my cruising dose of 200mg/week.

Let me say this again... Trenbolone is GARBAGE!

Said it a few times already, but nobody listens.

 

[freeze2000]

But see I haven't cheated once on my diet, and lifted 1-2 times a day with a advanced diet. Ive been consuming over 300g protein. Sometimes 400.

Oh and this is the first time i've used tren, so its really good. Can't complain first timer on tren gaining 50 pounds on bench 4 weeks in.

How can you say its garbage?

 

[Para_Shoot]

4 weeks into trenbolone cycle at 50mg ED trenbolone and 100mg ED Test....

I honestly think the little gains I did get, I got from the test.

I am lethargic and have restless sleep. I had my cholesterol tested this morning and the numbers are...

total = 185
hdl = N/A
ldl = N/A

so had them run it again...

total = 187
hdl = N/A
ldl = N/A

Based on some formula with triglycerides, they were able to determine hdl < 15

I don't see the point in continuing the trenbolone for the next 4 weeks. I am going to continue with 500mg test/week and then back to my cruising dose of 200mg/week.

100mg ED of test? What type of test are you doing and why every day, unless it's test suspension. Little gains?? At 100mg test every day for 4 weeks and you have "Little Gains"?? Doesn't add up.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I think tr-en is a very potent and effective compound, speaking from experience...and I have other compounds to compare it to so I know this stuff is strong.

Let me say, YES, it will mess up your lipids, etc.... but so will test!

When running tr-en, there are some musts you should either run right off the bat or at least consider: an A I + cabaser (to keep prolactin & progesterone-induced gyno at beigh)... t3 should be considered if your thyroid is sluggish (which is typical when running tr-en)... also consider your diet... alot of guys will run a calorie or carb-deficient diet while running tr-en, and that will definitely make you feel sluggish. Add to that lack of sleep, and you're cooked. BUT, as I've suggested... there are ways around tr-en side effects.

 

[st8grad]

Sucks, but you gotta go for what works for ya. If tren isn't doing it, then drop it. No big deal. Not sure why anyone would bash you for not liking it. Since the sides can be hell for some people there's no shame that your body didn't react favorably to it.

Have you considered running it at 25mg ED?

 

[DJ_UFO]

Like BRR said, Tren is high quality poison for the body. However, if you decided to use it, I think 4 weeks is not enough time to see results in body composition. The bad sides, of course from day number 1. By week 4, you should see increased strength already. If I was you I'd keep going 2 more weeks with tren to get some good benefits from it; you already got the bad sides so you have nothing more left to lose.

 

[leonidas33]

Have you considered running it at 25mg ED?

i have, but assume I will never seen any positive affects at that dose.

 

[leonidas33]

Like BRR said, trenbolone is high quality poison for the body. However, if you decided to use it, I think 4 weeks is not enough time to see results in body composition. The bad sides, of course from day number 1. By week 4, you should see increased strength already. If I was you I'd keep going 2 more weeks with trenbolone to get some good benefits from it; you already got the bad sides so you have nothing more left to lose.

I have seen slight increase in strength but that could be from the test.

After hearing everyones input, I think I may continue running it for another 2-3 weeks. The cholesterol thing just kinda scares me.

thanks for all the replies!

 

[njmuscleguy]

red yeast rice, non-flush niacin, fish oil, healthy fats, garlic.... take these before, during, and after a cycle and it should help with the cholesterol side effects

 

[Trendsetter21]

could give a fuk about looking like ronnie coleman!

DUDE my HDL is LESS THAN 15!!!!

Unlike a lot of guys on here, my health is the most important thing to me.

Considering I am getting NO results at 4 weeks in on a trenbolone cycle which is typically ONLY an 8 week cycle, why continue battering my lipids????

You're health is the most important. I agree you should come off it if you feel that you should. Trust me it isn't worth your health, you are probably taking steroids to improve your body not destroy it. I would suggest to get off the trend if thats whats causing this. Better to be safe!

 

[halfcenturian]

Let me say this again... Trenbolone is GARBAGE!

Said it a few times already, but nobody listens.

Yes. But you haven't said WHY ?

 

[perryscoon]

Bro, trust me, I understand that the sides from tren are horrible, and I don't knock you for stopping because of that. Its not for everybody, but my point was that if you are stopping because you haven't seen huge gains in 4 weeks, you are selling yourself short. 4 weeks is simply not enough time. I'm not sure what you were expecting.

 

[kidd73]

You triglycerides must be through the roof if they can't break down your LDL and HDL.

Are you on an anti-e bro? I'm wondering if the f-ed up lipids and the lethargy may be from that.

But if you drop the trenbolone and start to feel better at least problem solved from sleep/energy standpoint.

That's awesome you can get your lab results in a hour rather than a couple days. You must have a personal doctor.

What's your BP like? Also did you lay down your diet in an earlier post about this?

st8grad?? Still thr? What is the effect on triglycerides & overall cholseterol from tren? Is is dramatic or slow acting? Just curious cuz my tri's are a bit high right now.

 

[navigatorrs]

What about strength gains? I started trenbolone ace 4 weeks ago to this day, bench has gone up 50 pounds.... Ive gained about 10 pounds and lost about 20 pounds fat.

Im running 100mg eod trenbolone, 100mg eod test.


The fatloss hasn't been the best but the strength gains are incredible.

You lost 20lbs of Fat in 4 weeks????????? And gained 10lbs of muscle ?? All in 4 weeks?? Sorry bro thats unheard of, and IMO impossible to achieve in 4 weeks.

 

[freeze2000]

Well i had a big carb up load the night before I started my diet... I was bloated to hell the next day so that was probably 10 pounds.

The strength gains are true though, my bench is up already 50 pounds, and same with the squat.

 

[wzkid]

Well i had a big carb up load the night before I started my diet... I was bloated to hell the next day so that was probably 10 pounds.

The strength gains are true though, my bench is up already 50 pounds, and same with the squat.

 

[st8grad]

st8grad?? Still thr? What is the effect on triglycerides & overall cholseterol from trenbolone? Is is dramatic or slow acting? Just curious cuz my tri's are a bit high right now.

My thought is that it is caused from something else. In Lambs and Ewes total cholesterol was unchanged after 93 and 91 days respectively. I'm just not so sure that tren messes with either cholestrol or triglycerides.

I think the high levels of tri's are from too many carbs. We are so concerned with glycogen replenishment and this persistent "need" for carbs that it just overflows and gets stored as fat.

The amount of carbs that some guys eat is enough for runners that log 100+ miles per week. 100 MILES PER WEEK. Lifting by and large is anaerobic.

Take a look at you diet. Anything over 250 grams per day of carbs is too many. For high triglycerides I would even get closer to 150 and replace those calories with fat from almonds, pecans, eggs, olive and fish oil, PB, and sirloin.

 

[al420]

What about strength gains? I started trenbolone ace 4 weeks ago to this day, bench has gone up 50 pounds.... Ive gained about 10 pounds and lost about 20 pounds fat.

Im running 100mg eod trenbolone, 100mg eod test.


The fatloss hasn't been the best but the strength gains are incredible.

WOW - now that is a priceless post.