Digi and other true TRT users -- A question:

[mrplunkey]

1) What's a decent legitimate dose? 100 mg/week? 150 mg/week?

2) Do you still come off every now and then?

3) Do you use any AI's?

4) What other supps do you take with your cycle?

5) What about stacking HGH? What kind of dose/cycles do you run?

I'm seriously considering moving from a 8-10 week cycle every 40-50 weeks to a more continuous supplementation.

 

[digimon7068]

my doc-prescribed dose is 250mg (of test cyp) every 10 days.

however, i generally use 250mg each week.

once upon a time, someone here (at ef) provided me with some scientific information (on blood levels of free test at various dose levels) that seemed to indicate that 100mg each week wasn't even enough for a "replacement" dose yet, it would still be enough to shut down your natural production...which, theoretically, would put you in a deficit situation.

i get my levels checked (along with other bloodwork to make sure nothing negative is occurring) 2 or 3 times a year and, so far, my free test level has been in the moderate range (not low, not high...i don't remember the exact ng/ml).

also, when my knee joints are really bothering me, i throw in 150mg of deca every 14 days for a while...pain usually decreases and flexibility usually increases within a couple of weeks, but i'll run it for a couple months at a time.

i use gh at 1 to 2 iu each day, jan thru may each year...imho, it's awesome for helping you retain hard-earned muscle while you are leaning-out.

i don't currently use an ai's (i don't have any issues).

sometime in the next few days, it will be 3 years that i've been on.

 

[digimon7068]

my doc-prescribed dose is 250mg (of test cyp) every 10 days.

however, i generally use 250mg each week.

once upon a time, someone here (at ef) provided me with some scientific information (on blood levels of free test at various dose levels) that seemed to indicate that 100mg each week wasn't even enough for a "replacement" dose yet, it would still be enough to shut down your natural production...which, theoretically, would put you in a deficit situation.

i get my levels checked (along with other bloodwork to make sure nothing negative is occurring) 2 or 3 times a year and, so far, my free test level has been in the moderate range (not low, not high...i don't remember the exact ng/ml).

also, when my knee joints are really bothering me, i throw in 150mg of deca every 14 days for a while...pain usually decreases and flexibility usually increases within a couple of weeks, but i'll run it for a couple months at a time.

i use gh at 1 to 2 iu each day, jan thru may each year...imho, it's awesome for helping you retain hard-earned muscle while you are leaning-out.

i don't currently use an ai's (i don't have any issues).

sometime in the next few days, it will be 3 years that i've been on.

ps: this ^^^^^ probably makes me NOT a true trt user

but, truth be told, i could probably get up to 250mg ew (from my doc) if i whined about it a little bit and that would probably be enough, all by itself, for me to be happy/normal/what-have-you.

 

[mrplunkey]

Hmmm... interesting. Do you ever take any HCG?

I'm inclined to try 200 mg/week of cyp and just stay on with moderate breaks. I'm also a massive HGH fan, so I may take 2-4 IU's (varying) per day for 5 on / 2 off.

There's a huge mental jump for me to go from periodically cycling to always on. I should get some bloodwork back this week.

 

[digimon7068]

Hmmm... interesting. Do you ever take any HCG?

I'm inclined to try 200 mg/week of cyp and just stay on with moderate breaks. I'm also a massive HGH fan, so I may take 2-4 IU's (varying) per day for 5 on / 2 off.

There's a huge mental jump for me to go from periodically cycling to always on. I should get some bloodwork back this week.

when i originally went legit, i used one of those anti-aging places and they would give you a cycle test/deca/anavar/adex...12 weeks worth, i think...and then hcg for pct...i'm not sure how many times a year they would let you do it...i did it like twice and then i just went and talked to my doc about it...he did bloodwork on me that showed i was deficient and put me on test-cyp, year-round...and i get bloodwork 2 or 3 times a year and a physical once a year to make sure everything is working right...the only issue i've ever had was with my red blood cell count...it was a bit high and they don't want you clotting...since then i added a plain aspirin to my daily vitamin/supp intake.

 

[PICK3]

want to know how I take it?

 

[mrplunkey]

when i originally went legit, i used one of those anti-aging places and they would give you a cycle test/deca/anavar/adex...12 weeks worth, i think...and then hcg for pct...i'm not sure how many times a year they would let you do it...i did it like twice and then i just went and talked to my doc about it...he did bloodwork on me that showed i was deficient and put me on test-cyp, year-round...and i get bloodwork 2 or 3 times a year and a physical once a year to make sure everything is working right...the only issue i've ever had was with my red blood cell count...it was a bit high and they don't want you clotting...since then i added a plain aspirin to my daily vitamin/supp intake.

That's almost exactly how I started.

 

[ceo]

1) What's a decent legitimate dose? 100 mg/week? 150 mg/week?

2) Do you still come off every now and then? No. What's the point?

3) Do you use any AI's? minimal, or as needed

4) What other supps do you take with your cycle? cycle? or TRT?

5) What about stacking HGH? What kind of dose/cycles do you run? I'm approaching the point where I am going to add this. I will probably do 4-5iu/day, and eventually try adding short blasts up to 15-20iu

I'm seriously considering moving from a 8-10 week cycle every 40-50 weeks to a more continuous supplementation.

...

my doc-prescribed dose is 250mg (of test cyp) every 10 days. that's a big dose!

however, i generally use 250mg each week. and what do your levels come back at? Or do you fudge them when it comes time to get tested?

once upon a time, someone here (at ef) provided me with some scientific information (on blood levels of free test at various dose levels) that seemed to indicate that 100mg each week wasn't even enough for a "replacement" dose yet, it would still be enough to shut down your natural production...which, theoretically, would put you in a deficit situation. Interesting. I'd like to see that. Either way I call bullshit. 100mg/week puts me around 550ng/dl.

i get my levels checked (along with other bloodwork to make sure nothing negative is occurring) 2 or 3 times a year and, so far, my free test level has been in the moderate range (not low, not high...i don't remember the exact ng/ml). Moderate range on 250mg/week??? Man, 250mg puts my levels (and most others I've talked with on the subject) around 1100-1200 ng/dl. Top of the range is now 827 I believe.

also, when my knee joints are really bothering me, i throw in 150mg of deca every 14 days for a while...pain usually decreases and flexibility usually increases within a couple of weeks, but i'll run it for a couple months at a time.

i use gh at 1 to 2 iu each day, jan thru may each year...imho, it's awesome for helping you retain hard-earned muscle while you are leaning-out.

i don't currently use an ai's (i don't have any issues).

sometime in the next few days, it will be 3 years that i've been on.

I wonder if you only get "moderate" blood levels on such a high (HRT-wise) dose because you're so fucking old?

 

[ceo]

Hmmm... interesting. Do you ever take any HCG?

I'm inclined to try 200 mg/week of cyp and just stay on with moderate breaks. I'm also a massive HGH fan, so I may take 2-4 IU's (varying) per day for 5 on / 2 off.

There's a huge mental jump for me to go from periodically cycling to always on. I should get some bloodwork back this week.

what would be the point of the HCG?

And what would be the point of moderate breaks?

 

[mrplunkey]

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I wonder if you only get "moderate" blood levels on such a high (HRT-wise) dose because you're so fucking old?

I didn't know you did TRT!

If so, that's two highly credible votes for a lower dose, always-on program.

 

[mrplunkey]

what would be the point of the HCG?

And what would be the point of moderate breaks?

I wondered if moderate breaks and some HGC gave you the option of ever getting off TRT and restarting naturally.

I'm 44 now. I like the idea of being always on, but wonder if I'm going to be some 70 year old guy still shooting-up test because I permanently shut myself down so hard 25 years ago.

 

[ceo]

when i originally went legit, i used one of those anti-aging places and they would give you a cycle test/deca/anavar/adex...12 weeks worth, i think...and then hcg for pct...i'm not sure how many times a year they would let you do it...i did it like twice and then i just went and talked to my doc about it...he did bloodwork on me that showed i was deficient and put me on test-cyp, year-round...and i get bloodwork 2 or 3 times a year and a physical once a year to make sure everything is working right...the only issue i've ever had was with my red blood cell count...it was a bit high and they don't want you clotting...since then i added a plain aspirin to my daily vitamin/supp intake.

You're lucky. Taking aspirin won't do much if anything to your Hemeglobin/Hematocrit. If your H/H are high, giving blood is the necessary action.

Hematocrit above 52 really needs to be monitored carefully. Above 55 needs immediate attention. Giving blood regularly will help keep this lower. Taking AAS will definitely increase it.

 

[ceo]

I wondered if moderate breaks and some HGC gave you the option of ever getting off TRT and restarting naturally.

I'm 44 now. I like the idea of being always on, but wonder if I'm going to be some 70 year old guy still shooting-up test because I permanently shut myself down so hard 25 years ago.

To answer your other post, I've been on TRT for a year now. I have had test levels taken at various doses at various intervals after injections.

I suppose taking breaks could give you the option of restarting naturally.

Regardless of restarting naturally, at 70 you will need TRT if you want to feel like you do at 44. You obviously won't have the same levels naturally.

 

[mrplunkey]

To answer your other post, I've been on TRT for a year now. I have had test levels taken at various doses at various intervals after injections.

I suppose taking breaks could give you the option of restarting naturally.

Regardless of restarting naturally, at 70 you will need TRT if you want to feel like you do at 44. You obviously won't have the same levels naturally.

It's inescapable logic. I need to just bite the bullet and do it.

 

[PICK3]

It's inescapable logic. I need to just bite the pillow and do it.

fyp

 

[digimon7068]

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I wonder if you only get "moderate" blood levels on such a high (HRT-wise) dose because you're so fucking old?

no...i'm not fudging (e.g., taking dbol for a couple weekes before my blood test to shut my ass the hell DOWN completely...i know how to do it...i just don't see the point).

my doc(s) go by my free testosterone (unbound...my docs don't give a hoot about my total testosterone) and it's usually around 50 picograms/ml (i think) which is in the low-normal range and they would like me to be in the high-normal range but they don't want to increase my dose because my red blood cell count is elevated (probably from the test) and, when your blood gets too thick, there is a potential for clotting.

i have to get some bloodwork done a week from this monday...i will report back with the results as soon as i get them, m'kay?

hell, i'll white out the names to protect the innocent and scan and pm the report to you, if you like.

 

[mrplunkey]

fyp

You MO'ed up a TRT thread!

 

[mrplunkey]

no...i'm not fudging (e.g., taking dbol for a couple weekes before my blood test to shut my ass the hell DOWN completely...i know how to do it...i just don't see the point).

my doc(s) go by my free testosterone (unbound...my docs don't give a hoot about my total testosterone) and it's usually around 50 picograms/ml (i think) which is in the low-normal range and they would like me to be in the high-normal range but they don't want to increase my dose because my red blood cell count is elevated (probably from the test) and, when your blood gets too thick, there is a potential for clotting.

i have to get some bloodwork done a week from this monday...i will report back with the results as soon as i get them, m'kay?

hell, i'll white out the names to protect the innocent and scan and pm the report to you, if you like.

I have numbers coming too. Let's compare notes.

 

[ceo]

no...i'm not fudging (e.g., taking dbol for a couple weekes before my blood test to shut my ass the hell DOWN completely...i know how to do it...i just don't see the point).

my doc(s) go by my free testosterone (unbound...my docs don't give a hoot about my total testosterone) and it's usually around 50 picograms/ml (i think) which is in the low-normal range and they would like me to be in the high-normal range but they don't want to increase my dose because my red blood cell count is elevated (probably from the test) and, when your blood gets too thick, there is a potential for clotting.

If that's the case I'd be interested to know what your Albumin and SHBG are. Free T is basically a percentage of Total T. It's usually around 1.5-3%, with most of the Total T being bound by SHBG. Again, I'm thinking your old age is a contributing factor (lolz). You may want to look into some nettle root extract to lower SHBG.

"Since the percent free testosterone in men is usually 1-4%, the free testosterone level commonly ranges from 4-20 ng/deciliter (140-695 pmol/L)." *** <--based on this I think you may have your numbers confused.

***Chapter 4 - Laboratory Assessment of Testicular Function
Stephen J. Winters, M.D. Professor of Medicine, Chief of Division of Endocrinology and Metabolism, University of Louisville, ACB-A3G11, 550 S. Jackson St. Louisville, KY 40202
Updated June 20, 2007 (Chapter4.LABORATORY ASSESSMENT OF TESTICULAR FUNCTION)

i have to get some bloodwork done a week from this monday...i will report back with the results as soon as i get them, m'kay?

hell, i'll white out the names to protect the innocent and scan and pm the report to you, if you like.

Cool. I'd be interested to see that. Don't go out of your way though.

 

[Lambruh]

Good thread, interesting stuff

 

[javaguru]

Plunkey, 200mg per week is a good replacement dose and no need to take time off and cycle like juicers....You're in andropause...you're taking a replacement dose....why would you even consider trying to restore your sub par androgen levels? You're on for life...women don't take time off from there estrogen...

 

[digimon7068]

Plunkey, 200mg per week is a good replacement dose and no need to take time off and cycle like juicers....You're in andropause...you're taking a replacement dose....why would you even consider trying to restore your sub par androgen levels? You're on for life...women don't take time off from there estrogen...

*their

 

[digimon7068]

I have numbers coming too. Let's compare notes.

sure buddy...like i said, i'll whiteout the names to protect the innocent (or not so innocent) and i'll scan it and pm (or e-mail) it to you (too).

 

[Strongbow]

I am prescribed 200 mgs of test cyp every 7 days, but I usually up my dose to 1500 mgs a week every 10 weeks and cruise at 400 mgs when I ain't blasting.

 

[ceo]

I am prescribed 200 mgs of test cyp every 7 days, but I usually up my dose to 1500 mgs a week every 10 weeks and cruise at 400 mgs when I ain't blasting.

So what do you do when it comes time to get your blood levels checked? Go down to like 100mg for a couple weeks?

 

[mrplunkey]

I am prescribed 200 mgs of test cyp every 7 days, but I usually up my dose to 1500 mgs a week every 10 weeks and cruise at 400 mgs when I ain't blasting.

Why is my "bad idea" detector going off right now?

 

[digimon7068]

So what do you do when it comes time to get your blood levels checked? Go down to like 100mg for a couple weeks?

you'd need more than a "couple of weeks" due to the 21 day half life of all tests but prop, no??

 

[Strongbow]

So what do you do when it comes time to get your blood levels checked? Go down to like 100mg for a couple weeks?

I hardly ever get them checked anymore but when he insists on running a blood test I just put it off till I know I've leveled out. I only done one test this year, and I dropped my dose to the perscribed amount for a couple months and tested low normal.

 

[Strongbow]

Why is my "bad idea" detector going off right now?

Prolly cause you don't have the heart of a champion.

 

[mrplunkey]

Prolly cause you don't have the heart of a champion.

... Or the brain of an imbecile.

 

[Strongbow]

... Or the brain of an imbecile.

There are no pacts between Lions and Men

 

[hardrock]

I run 100-150mg/wk, depending on the brand and dosage I currently have. Never come off. Throw is a cycle 2 x a year or so. GH? Can't afford it. Been on TRT for about 7 yrs now.

 

[digimon7068]

If that's the case I'd be interested to know what your Albumin and SHBG are. Free T is basically a percentage of Total T. It's usually around 1.5-3%, with most of the Total T being bound by SHBG. Again, I'm thinking your old age is a contributing factor (lolz). You may want to look into some nettle root extract to lower SHBG.

"Since the percent free testosterone in men is usually 1-4%, the free testosterone level commonly ranges from 4-20 ng/deciliter (140-695 pmol/L)." *** <--based on this I think you may have your numbers confused.

***Chapter 4 - Laboratory Assessment of Testicular Function
Stephen J. Winters, M.D. Professor of Medicine, Chief of Division of Endocrinology and Metabolism, University of Louisville, ACB-A3G11, 550 S. Jackson St. Louisville, KY 40202
Updated June 20, 2007 (Chapter4.LABORATORY ASSESSMENT OF TESTICULAR FUNCTION)




Cool. I'd be interested to see that. Don't go out of your way though.

confusion is normal for someone my age, yes??

 

[mrplunkey]

There are no pacts between Lions and Men

Yeah, men capture the lions and put them in a zoo or wear their skins for comfort and style.

 

[Strongbow]

Yeah, men capture the lions and put them in a zoo or wear their skins for comfort and style.

I meant when I lived in Sparta

 

[caligirl85]

What would the advantage be for a younger male to be on TRT??

Sorry to jump in...I'm curious!!

 

[TableFun]

I'm honing my TRT technique as we speak! (Fuck yea that rhymes)

 

[mrplunkey]

I meant when I lived in Sparta

So this is before you moved to mars?

 

[Cutiebolic]

So this is before you moved to mars?

Lol

 

[digimon7068]

What would the advantage be for a younger male to be on TRT??

Sorry to jump in...I'm curious!!

define "younger"...

 

[ceo]

you'd need more than a "couple of weeks" due to the 21 day half life of all tests but prop, no??

no. Maybe due to drug accumulation from that high of a dose, but not active/half lives.

From my reading and my own personal experiments, I can say the actual blood half-life of Test C is ~8 days, and Test E is ~4 days.

 

[ceo]

What would the advantage be for a younger male to be on TRT??

Sorry to jump in...I'm curious!!

is he hypogonadal?

What reason would a young, healthy male have to need to be on TRT?

 

[javaguru]

*their

Indeed, I stand corrected....but the advice is solid.

 

[ceo]

is he hypogonadal?

What reason would a young, healthy male have to need to be on TRT?

still interested in hearing this^^^

 

[Strongbow]

So this is before you moved to mars?

Oh yea bro and after I built the pyrimids in Egypt and before I invented electricity.

 

[caligirl85]

still interested in hearing this^^^

Ceo...to be honest...I thought you were under 30 so was surprised when you said you were on TRT and was curious what the advantages would be for that age group. if any...


So....that's what I get for making assumptions...

 

[kx250rider]

1) What's a decent legitimate dose? 100 mg/week? 150 mg/week? That all depends on what your original test levels were. In my case, I was in 2 digits, and I take 600mg/week, to keep me in the 800-900 range now. That's an ultra-high dose, but that's what it takes to put me where I want.

2) Do you still come off every now and then?

No, not more than for a week or two at most, based on traveling or if trying to track down the cause of a medical issue.

3) Do you use any AI's? Arimidex 0.5mg/daily

4) What other supps do you take with your cycle? I don't cycle, but I take Progesterone and zinc (included in the T-cyp by the compounding pharmacy). And the usual stuff (creatine, various OTC vitamins, Muscle Milk, etc etc). I also am on HCG to try to restore some ball size

5) What about stacking HGH? What kind of dose/cycles do you run? Tried it for a year; not worth the $. I will say that I was able to recover faster from pulls & tears, but no noticeable benefits with bodybuilding efforts.

Charles

 

[cindylou]

Ceo...to be honest...I thought you were under 30 so was surprised when you said you were on TRT and was curious what the advantages would be for that age group. if any...


So....that's what I get for making assumptions...

lol! He's old. He's just immature at times.

 

[ceo]

Ceo...to be honest...I thought you were under 30 so was surprised when you said you were on TRT and was curious what the advantages would be for that age group. if any...


So....that's what I get for making assumptions...

lol! I appreciate that!


oh, stfu cindy!

 

[caligirl85]

lol! He's old. He's just immature at times.

LOL...I have been thinking about why I thought that but no real reason...just one of those impressions I guess.

 

[caligirl85]

lol! I appreciate that!


oh, stfu cindy!

LOL..Thanks!

Now I know you're probably old like me...even better

 

[cindylou]

LOL...I have been thinking about why I thought that but no real reason...just one of those impressions I guess.

lol...I thought he was blaque for a long time

 

[caligirl85]

lol...I thought he was blaque for a long time

LOL..ya I probably thought that too...it's funny how we form impressions from people's online personalities!!

 

[ceo]

1) What's a decent legitimate dose? 100 mg/week? 150 mg/week? That all depends on what your original test levels were. In my case, I was in 2 digits, and I take 600mg/week, to keep me in the 800-900 range now. That's an ultra-high dose, but that's what it takes to put me where I want.

I disagree. My levels were also in 2 digits. 40's and 50's. Had them triple checked because the doc couldn't believe it. As little as 150mg puts my Total T in the high 700's. 200mg puts me in the mid 900's. That's the highest prescribable dose (600mg/week) for TRT. It's the highest I've ever heard anyone being on who wasn't going to one of the longevity clinics (generally they are less about medicine/wellness and more about money). It's also the highest dose I've ever heard someone claim to only have them be at the top (or slightly over) of the normal .

5) What about stacking HGH? What kind of dose/cycles do you run? Tried it for a year; not worth the $. I will say that I was able to recover faster from pulls & tears, but no noticeable benefits with bodybuilding efforts.

Charles

Being that money is no object to Plunkey, I will have to disagree here too for just the recovery factor alone. HGH also strengthens tendons and ligaments. Who wouldn't want all that and more?

 

[Strongbow]

Most faggots have Low T

 

[ceo]

Most faggots have Low T

so you for sure have low T then.

 

[-SD-]

I disagree. My levels were also in 2 digits. 40's and 50's. Had them triple checked because the doc couldn't believe it. As little as 150mg puts my Total T in the high 700's. 200mg puts me in the mid 900's. That's the highest prescribable dose (600mg/week) for TRT. It's the highest I've ever heard anyone being on who wasn't going to one of the longevity clinics (generally they are less about medicine/wellness and more about money). It's also the highest dose I've ever heard someone claim to only have them be at the top (or slightly over) of the normal .



Being that money is no object to Plunkey, I will have to disagree here too for just the recovery factor alone. HGH also strengthens tendons and ligaments. Who wouldn't want all that and more?

HGH has screwed my joints up. I was on 2iu/day for almost 3 months, backed down to 1iu then had to drop it. My shoulders are still wrecked for some reason and the only variable added was the HGH. I have nothing else going on in my life to cause this except the HGH, it is what it is.

 

[digimon7068]

HGH has screwed my joints up. I was on 2iu/day for almost 3 months, backed down to 1iu then had to drop it. My shoulders are still wrecked for some reason and the only variable added was the HGH. I have nothing else going on in my life to cause this except the HGH, it is what it is.

300mg of test (c or e) ew...150mg of deca every 10 - 14 days...tell me how your joints feel in 10 weeks

 

[mrplunkey]

300mg of test (c or e) ew...150mg of deca every 10 - 14 days...tell me how your joints feel in 10 weeks

Deca for joints is pure awesome awesomeness.

 

[-SD-]

Deca for joints is pure awesome awesomeness.

Deca is pure shutdown shutdownness

 

[ceo]

superdave is opposite man.

 

[mrplunkey]

So I'm seriously considering this:

1) 175 mg/week of cyp

2) No AI unless necesary

3) 2-4 IU/day of HGH -- 5 on / 2 off

go for at least 20ish weeks, but time off = max 2-4 weeks.

Does that sound fairly conservative?

 

[digimon7068]

Deca is pure shutdown shutdownness

everything shuts you down...even test...in fact, you can inject test at a lower rate than your own natural production and it will shut down your natural production and you will be left with less test than you had when you weren't using any test at all. the enemy with deca is prolactin...thus, deca should be used cautiously and never by itself (i.e., it should be used with test...presumably with the test at a higher dose and/or frequency than the deca) imho.

 

[PICK3]

Does that sound fairly conservative?

yes


in a mean spirited kinda way

 

[-SD-]

lolololol
You need a more liberal dosing schedule plunkey

 

[ceo]

So I'm seriously considering this:

1) 175 mg/week of cyp

2) No AI unless necesary

3) 2-4 IU/day of HGH -- 5 on / 2 off

go for at least 20ish weeks, but time off = max 2-4 weeks.

Does that sound fairly conservative?

What would you be trying to accomplish with the 2-4 weeks time off every 20 weeks?

 

[mrplunkey]

What would you be trying to accomplish with the 2-4 weeks time off every 20 weeks?

I was thinking it would give me a little time to reset just in case things were slowly drifting out of whack.

It's probably a ridiculous idea.

 

[Strongbow]

so you for sure have low T then.

Not a chance negro, I manipulated my blood tests to get on HRT because of allegations of steroid use, for biuisness purposes. I use steroids because my doctor says I need them, my use of AAS is completely legit.

 

[kx250rider]

I disagree. My levels were also in 2 digits. 40's and 50's. Had them triple checked because the doc couldn't believe it. As little as 150mg puts my Total T in the high 700's. 200mg puts me in the mid 900's. That's the highest prescribable dose (600mg/week) for TRT. It's the highest I've ever heard anyone being on who wasn't going to one of the longevity clinics (generally they are less about medicine/wellness and more about money). It's also the highest dose I've ever heard someone claim to only have them be at the top (or slightly over) of the normal .

Tell me about it.... 600mg/week is $$$. They started me at 150mg every two weeks, and my estrogen went up while the T went down . My body is uncooperative. I've mentioned it here before, but I also have hypoaldosteronism, which evidently causes all kinds of issues with attempts with hormone replacement. I didn't go through puberty 'til very late, and didn't have to shave until I was over 30. So I'm not the usual "over-40 HRT patient". My estrogen was through the roof (I don't remember the level, but it was many times my wife's). Insulin soaring & crashing, glucose soaring & crashing, and no coritisol detectable whatsoever. I was a real anomaly for the endocrinologist.

Charles

 

[BBR100]

Interesting thread. TRT is something I'd consider.

 

[ceo]

Tell me about it.... 600mg/week is $$$. They started me at 150mg every two weeks, and my estrogen went up while the T went down . My body is uncooperative. I've mentioned it here before, but I also have hypoaldosteronism, which evidently causes all kinds of issues with attempts with hormone replacement. I didn't go through puberty 'til very late, and didn't have to shave until I was over 30. So I'm not the usual "over-40 HRT patient". My estrogen was through the roof (I don't remember the level, but it was many times my wife's). Insulin soaring & crashing, glucose soaring & crashing, and no coritisol detectable whatsoever. I was a real anomaly for the endocrinologist.

Charles

I'm not quite that bad, but I do have some issues that the endo can't explain despite many tests done many times over many years. Oh well. We all gotta die someday.

 

[Strongbow]

I'm not quite that bad, but I do have some issues that the endo can't explain despite many tests done many times over many years. Oh well. We all gotta die someday.

You need to have an AIDS test.

 

[ceo]

You need to have an AIDS test.

I just put some of my poz seed in your karma.