Difficulty waking after getting enough sleep

[cheesecake]

I've never been one to get a lot of sleep. Usually around 4-6 is all I would get in a single night.

Now that I'm training again, I'm trying to get 8+ hours every night. The problem is that the more sleep I get, the harder it is for me to wake up in the morning.

When I was only getting a few hours every night, I could pop right out of bed. Now that I'm getting a good night's rest, I have to literally force myself to get up.

Anyone else have this problem?
...chad...

 

[b fold the truth]

I need LOTS of sleep. You feel like you are 14 again and your body is growing (because it is). You are under a lot of stress because of training so you need a lot more recovery time.

I love sleep...and lots of it.

B True

 

[nEwSkIn]

Cheesecake, it has happened to me as well, but although I can get up easier with less hours of sleep, during the day I don´t feel as rested and active...

I think that the body relaxes even more with 8+ hours of sleep, so it gets harder to "take off" again??

this is not a scientific explanation though

 

[Mike_Rojas]

Anyone else have this problem?

I do. Especially if I do deadlifts. I think I'm going to go take a nap now.

 

[cheesecake]

I love sleep...and lots of it.

I love the sleep too. It's the waking up part that I don't like.
...chad...

 

[rnch]

if babys only knew now how much they would value sleeping 20 years later......

they wouldn't fight going to bed so much now!!!!!!!

 

[casualbb]

Psychology textbook answer:

Between hours 3 and 5 of sleep, the sleep patterns shift from mostly stage 4 sleep to REM sleep. REM sleep indicates a state of extreme mental activity and dreaming, from which it is difficult to be roused.

Most humans will sleep 9 to 10 hours if left alone (Stanley Coren, 1996).

"Given such sleep, they do not become groggy later. Rather, long sleepers awake refreshed, sustain better moods, and perform more efficient and accurate work than do people who get less sleep. People who sleep less than 7 hours often show signs of sleep deprivation--depressed immune system, poorer judgments, irritability, and more accidents."

 

[spatts]

I like at least 8 hours a night plus a pre workout nap.

I also go through phases like that CC, like right now, where I wake up after 8 hours, and I'm still not "up and at 'em." Then other times I'll wake up on my own, ready to rock. I can usually trace it back to training or diet. Right now, for me, it's both.

 

[jerkbox]

god i wish the day was like 30 hrs just so i could sleep for 12 of those hrs.....

basically, I have to catch up on sleep over the weekends.

 

[Becoming]

I think being consistent helps with waking up not groggy...

I generally sleep 8 hours like clockwork... (If I go to sleep early, I find I wake up automatically early, and if I turn it in late, I usually am tired and have to hit the snooze)

but I think it comes from sleeping the same amount pretty much every day even weekends, etc....

 

[cheesecake]

I guess I'll get used to it. This morning was especially difficult.

Maybe I'll start paying attention to see if it's more difficult to get up the morning after the days that I train.
...chad...

 

[psychedout]

Yah, I know what you mean. But I am in a pattern now of getting enough sleep, so no worries for me.

I sleep 7.5-9 hours per night. I find it very difficult to sleep more or less than this.

 

[benchmonster]

Cheese, how big is your neck?

I have suffered from sleep apnea, until recently undiagnosed, for a long time now. Anyone with more than a 17 inch neck is at risk for this disorder.

Basically you quit breathing in your sleep, and you can never get to a deep enough sleep to get refreshed. Mine was so severe that I would wake up choking from it. However a more mild form might be screwing with your sleep, but not so much that you actually completely wake up.

The reason you wake up, is that your body knows it is being starved for oxygen, and forces you to wake up so you will start breathing again.

B.

 

[Scotsman]

Psychology textbook answer:

Between hours 3 and 5 of sleep, the sleep patterns shift from mostly stage 4 sleep to REM sleep. REM sleep indicates a state of extreme mental activity and dreaming, from which it is difficult to be roused.

Most humans will sleep 9 to 10 hours if left alone (Stanley Coren, 1996).

"Given such sleep, they do not become groggy later. Rather, long sleepers awake refreshed, sustain better moods, and perform more efficient and accurate work than do people who get less sleep. People who sleep less than 7 hours often show signs of sleep deprivation--depressed immune system, poorer judgments, irritability, and more accidents."

Who the hell are you calling Irritable Kidding I only sleep between 4-6hours per night. That is my basic pattern for about 11 years now. Even is I have no interuptions and nothing to do I won't sleep more than 7 hours. About one every two to three months I will sleep for more one night maybe it is like my polar bear hybernation cycle. I don't feel it effects me negatively, so maybe i just don't need more sleep. Also I do find that when I sleep longer that I have more trouble waking and becoming alert, there again probably just my weird physiology.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[cheesecake]

Cheese, how big is your neck?

My neck is around 17.5 inches.

And while I've never been to the doctor about it, I have known for years that I have sleep apnea. I often quit breathing in my sleep. I don't realize it, but everyone that has ever been around me while I am sleeping usually freaks out the first time it happens.

So, you think the sleep apnea has something to do with it? Hmmm...
...chad...

 

[ffknight84]

i like 12+ hours of sleep, otherwise its nappy nap time in the middle of the day without my caffine...

 

[OreoPL]

sleep is good. i hav ehad this problem in the past few days to. i been hittin the gym hard and getting 10 hours of sleep or so but just dosnt feel lik enough. jsut a few weeks ago i was sleepin the same and jumping out of bed. i dont get it either. but iknow if i go to sleep and no disturebed i sleep for a good 14-16 hours sometimes maye there is somethin wrong with me . one time i slept for 24 hours i woke a few times to pee and drink some water but as soon as i hti the pillow i was out and dint wake up for another 6 horus or so. makes no sense. i quit thinking about it and just go to bed early and wake up when i do as long as it is before my alarm then i can hop up. no going back to sleep once i wake up that makes it horrible to get up.

 

[Toozee]

I go to bed stupid early. I get up around 4:30-5:00am to get to work at 6:30 or 7:00am, but I get off at 3:30pm.
I try to get about 8-9hrs a night, so I TRY to go to bed around 8:00-9:00pm.

My dad has the sleep apnea thing. He sleeps with one of those breating machines on.
He loves that thing. He said he sleeps so much "deeper" with it.

I read in a study long ago that sleep periods go in about 3 hour cycles.
So people often feel the best sleeping 6 or 9 hours
(multiples of 3).
These were probably normal size people though.

 

[casualbb]

There also exists the concept of "sleep debt." Essentially, when one is sleep deprived for any length of time, one needs several nights of oversleep to normalize.

They did an experiment, they basically paid some test subjects to stay in bed for 16 hours. They found that during the first few days, most subject actually slept for 12 or more hours. By the end of the week they had normalized back to 8-9. So, Scotsman, if you've been getting 4-6 for as long as you can remember, your sleep credit rating is like F go take a nap buddy

 

[Toozee]

I believe in the sleep debt theory. I pretty much had a huge "credit line" during college and when I was traveling.

After a few nights....it would even out though.

 

[EnglishBeef]

Since i've been training really hard I have definatley felt like more sleep. I get to be around 11pm and get up with the alarm at 7am. This isn't enough for me to grow i feel. So luckily a drive a minibus and at around dinner time a park up at this country park car park get on the back seat and sleep for about 40 mintues. I feel more refreshed after that than the 7 hours at night.

Ready to rip the gym up then............and grow whist i sleep