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Different sides from Diff test

theoak01

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I had been using prop for most of my cycle,but switched to enan as I felt like a pin cushion

anyway before the switch I had no acne at all,and now 2 weeks into the switch I am broken out like mad all over my shoulders and back.

I also find any other time Ive used Test E I had the same results but not with prop

so in principle test is test,but the different ester sure produce different sides imo

discuss...
 
I've used everything from Suspension to Enanthate in the past 5 years. In my experience the faster acting the Test... the greater the sides. I have more acne and greater mood disturbances with Suspension and Prop than I do with Cyp or Enan.

Basically and inverse relationship to what you're currently experiencing.

However- Suspension is still GOD in my books.
 
Never quite heard of someone loving suspension so much! Test cyp. and enanth. both gave me acne starting about 5 weeks in each time I used them. Never used prop though so I can't comment on that. I always thought the faster-acting the worse the sides?

Chris
 
TheOak01 said:
I had been using prop for most of my cycle,but switched to enan as I felt like a pin cushion

anyway before the switch I had no acne at all,and now 2 weeks into the switch I am broken out like mad all over my shoulders and back.

I also find any other time Ive used Test E I had the same results but not with prop

so in principle test is test,but the different ester sure produce different sides imo

discuss...

For me acne doesn't get bad until 5-6 weeks into cycle so the timing may just have been a coincidence in your case.
 
I got acne far worse of eth then I ever did of sust, I will probably never use Eth again due to my acne from it. IMO
 
how often are you injecting..

if you are getting more sides try injecting more frequently
 
Prop gives me mild gyno about 6 weeks in as does sust/omnas (likely due to the prop in them

enanthate gives me MAJOR acne
 
IVe been on for 10 weeks and I never break out while on a cycle except when its a long acting ester.

Im shooting the test e mon/thur and kept running prop for a week until the test e could kick in,so I doubt its bad blood levels.

from now on Im only going to use prop,this long acting shit doesnt mesh well with me,plus I gained noticably more water after the switch.
 
in all likelyhood overlapping the prop with the enanthate caused your problems, resulting in larger spikes in levels compared to when you were just running the prop. now that the sides are triggered it can take time for them to simmer down.

"kick-in" time is a bulletin board myth, has little to do wiith circulating blood levels, primariliy just time until people feel the surge in water weight or the cumulated anabolic effects become noticable to them. if kick-in time were real then how do you account for your rapid onset of sides?

Long esters like enanthate and cyp still produce large variations in blood levels, this is why injects of twice/wk or more, are recommended. For instance a user running 600/mg wk, injecting once per week, will have much larger variation in blood levels compared to injecting 300mg twice per week. Shorter esters like prop produce even greater variation in levels. So if you overlapped your initial enanthate injections with your prop shots during your transtiion, you created a much higher spike in levels than what you had prior to starting the enanthate. Because the long ester still surges a great deal of T into your system the first 24hrs after the shot. Think of it this way, if you had been running enanthate and then switched to prop, and for the first week, just added the prop on top of your enanthat injection, of course you would get a much larger spike in blood levels. What you did amounts to the same thing.

now I have never run the shorter esters but I have run HCG and experienced "surges" which in my experience result in greater sides. I have heard some say shorter esters will keep you dryer, some say they will not. however I can speculate that if they do keep you dryer it is probaby because there is some down time when ciculating levels fall low enough to have a drying out effect, whereas with the long esters there will be a longer duration which will not provide a drying out opportunity.
 
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