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gunz99

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lets use test for example.. what determines if the gear is human grade or vet grade. what is the difference??? i was just wondering
 
The Terminator said:
The manufacturing standards that are used to make them....And PRICE :D
(amongst many other more minute factors...)
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Term- Do you know what these minute factors are? I'm assuming that they don't add up to enough to convince you that vet gear inferior to human grade? This is a Q i've had too.
 
I always thought that one came from a Vet and the other from a pharmacist and that made the only difference. O.K., I'm stupid.
 
so is vet gear inferior to human grade... or is it really just a price difference.. so would you choose some test from a trt company or a mex company such as qv... if price were the same??????
 
My understanding is that human gear has a high level of purity. And when Vet gear is made the standards that it is tested under are not as strict as when human gear is made. The more impurities in the gear the more discomfort or pain when injecting.

To me the differance doesn't matter. As long as it is not going to cause any problems then I will go with the cheaper.

Just my understanding could be wrong. I have no scientific evidence of this. It is just what I have heard throughout the years.
 
To my understanding most UG (vet)gear is just that underground which means it is not regulated at all. Where a human grade is actually made for humans. A multi-millions dolar company has alot to lose selling bullshit. UG labs have really nothing to lose. They just go out of business with no real reprocussions. I personally have always had better results with human grade. I don't mess with that UG stuff. I don't care how much cheaper it is. Cheaper is not always better and in most cases you get what you pay for. A much more inferior product.
 
gunz99 said:
so is vet gear inferior to human grade... or is it really just a price difference.. so would you choose some test from a trt company or a mex company such as qv... if price were the same??????
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if price were the same definitely the HG. i have used vet gear in the past, qv is good quality stuff, but hg is guaranteed to be accurately dosed/filled, and more sterile. if you have access to hg go that route, but millions of people have put on millions of pounds of muscle with vet gear from mexico.
 
maxpain said:
To my understanding most UG (vet)gear is just that underground which means it is not regulated at all. Where a human grade is actually made for humans. A multi-millions dolar company has alot to lose selling bullshit. UG labs have really nothing to lose. They just go out of business with no real reprocussions. I personally have always had better results with human grade. I don't mess with that UG stuff. I don't care how much cheaper it is. Cheaper is not always better and in most cases you get what you pay for. A much more inferior product.
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You said it best! You cant compare human grade manufacturing standards to UG manufacturing standards! As there is no such a thing as UG manufacturing standards! They take no responsibilty in case of abscess or death. Yes some UG companies making good gear for reasonable price but their manufacturing is illegal, so dont be fooled, some day they can easilly turn scammers and put zero active ingredients into their products. Human grade gear is guaranteed to be accurately dosed/filled and more sterile, thats a fact! with UG/vet (lets see the facts QV isnt made for dogs) you`re taking chances all the time!
 
maxpain said:
To my understanding most UG (vet)gear is just that underground which means it is not regulated at all. Where a human grade is actually made for humans. A multi-millions dolar company has alot to lose selling bullshit. UG labs have really nothing to lose. They just go out of business with no real reprocussions. I personally have always had better results with human grade. I don't mess with that UG stuff. I don't care how much cheaper it is. Cheaper is not always better and in most cases you get what you pay for. A much more inferior product.
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I'm sorry to sat bro but you "understanding" is wrong. "vet is nor "UG"

Vet: Veterinarian.
UG: Underground.


"Vet" gear is made by legal licensed labs, they are regulated pay taxes ect ect.

UG: Is underground stuff, made without regulations or licenses.
 
Retabolil2 said:
You said it best! You cant compare human grade manufacturing standards to UG manufacturing standards! As there is no such a thing as UG manufacturing standards! They take no responsibilty in case of abscess or death. Yes some UG companies making good gear for reasonable price but their manufacturing is illegal, so dont be fooled, some day they can easilly turn scammers and put zero active ingredients into their products. Human grade gear is guaranteed to be accurately dosed/filled and more sterile, thats a fact! with UG/vet (lets see the facts QV isnt made for dogs) you`re taking chances all the time!
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You are a good bro Ret, one of our long time members and i have a lot of respect for you...
Please don't lower yourself to intentionally spreading misinformation to serve your own interests. It hurts the community and your credibility with people who actually know how it all works… Put the facts on the table and let people decide for themselves, that’s what being a real veteran is all about...
 
Big Rick Rock said:
I'm sorry to sat bro but you "understanding" is wrong. "vet is nor "UG"

Vet: Veterinarian.
UG: Underground.


"Vet" gear is made by legal licensed labs, they are regulated pay taxes ect ect.

UG: Is underground stuff, made without regulations or licenses.
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You mean that Quality Vet makes gear for dogs? :) I dont think so :) But probably their manufacturing standards different from UG manufacturing standards.
 
Retabolil2 said:
You mean that Quality Vet makes gear for dogs? :) I dont think so :) But probably their manufacturing standards differet from UG manufacturing standards.
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Question for ya... Is BD legal and licensed anywhere? what country?
 
Retabolil2 said:
You mean that Quality Vet makes gear for dogs? :) I dont think so :) But probably their manufacturing standards different from UG manufacturing standards.
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It is true that Vet manufacturing standards are much more stringent than the non existant standards of UG stuff...:)

Who knows who or where the UG stuff is made...(in some guys garage, or extra bathroom :eek2: )...No thanks :o
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Question for ya... Is BD legal and licensed anywhere? what country?
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BD is underground company. I dont understand people who prefer BD Testabol cypionate over old good sust! Wise up! Organon is human grade and almost same price, probably a little bit more expensive but its worth the price.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
I'm sorry to sat bro but you "understanding" is wrong. "vet is nor "UG"

Vet: Veterinarian.
UG: Underground.


"Vet" gear is made by legal licensed labs, they are regulated pay taxes ect ect.

UG: Is underground stuff, made without regulations or licenses.
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My bad. I thought he was asking the context of "vet" being UG. That's what most people refer to UG gear as vet gear.
 
The Terminator said:
The manufacturing standards that are used to make them....And PRICE :D
(amongst many other more minute factors...)
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True, but some UG Labs have great reps, BL did, Syrus does, and I hear only good things about BD.
 
The Terminator said:
It is true that Vet manufacturing standards are much more stringent than the non existant standards of UG stuff...:)

Who knows who or where the UG stuff is made...(in some guys garage, or extra bathroom :eek2: )...No thanks :o
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this is 100% true...NOW, this doesnt mean that there isnt good UG labs out there making good quality sterile gear...cause im sure they are, but rest assured that UG HAS to have standards. with vet drugs they still have standards to abide by. the standards are different, as "VET" drugs supposed to be produced for animals REGARDLESS of what the labs accuall agenda may be..

these are the facts.. i use UG, VET, and HG..so my opinion will never be biased
 
Retabolil2 said:
You mean that Quality Vet makes gear for dogs? :) I dont think so :)
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this is not the point Ret




Retabolil2 said:
But probably their manufacturing standards different from UG manufacturing standards.
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this is the point..more specifically better than UG standards...
 
I thought vet gear had strict regs. I was also under the assumption they add 7% (whatever % it is) alcohol to their gear. Like ttokkyo is suppose to hurt like a mo-fo from the high percentage of alcohol.
 
They take no responsibilty in case of abscess or death.
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I would like the name of the source (you can email it) that will take financial responsibilty if the Organon he sells you causes an abcess or death. Because you can't possibly be posting that Organon will responsible for a person's illegal steroid use.

Yes some UG companies making good gear for reasonable price but their manufacturing is illegal, so dont be fooled, some day they can easilly turn scammers and put zero active ingredients into their products.
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Kind of like when a source sells fake yellow tops or primo. Or maybe doesn't send anything at all.
 
Ulter said:
I would like the name of the source (you can email it) that will take financial responsibilty if the Organon he sells you causes an abcess or death. Because you can't possibly be posting that Organon will responsible for a person's illegal steroid use.



Kind of like when a source sells fake yellow tops or primo. Or maybe doesn't send anything at all.
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yeah their is an equal risk when buying each kiind of gear....but when there is ulterior motive to your words the responses are different
 
Ulter said:
I would like the name of the source (you can email it) that will take financial responsibilty if the Organon he sells you causes an abcess or death. Because you can't possibly be posting that Organon will responsible for a person's illegal steroid use.
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We are not talking about soruces, they cant take any responsibility for bad gear made by UG or pharmaceutical grade company. We are talking about manufacturers.
But I got your point. its illegal game and even with a pharmaceutical company you cant blame them for abscess as it was illegal use of steroids. Unless you have a prescription for Orgaonon sustanon250 :)
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bicepts101 said:
this is not the point Ret






this is the point..more specifically better than UG standards...
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Who knows what manufacturing standards for dogs are? And whats the difference between vet products and human grade products? I guess there must be some big difference!
 
Ulter makes a great point. Any source can scam and sell fakes not just ug or vet sources. I have only used HG once and had descent gains no better than the vet gear I have used.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
You are a good bro Ret, one of our long time members and i have a lot of respect for you...
Please don't lower yourself to intentionally spreading misinformation to serve your own interests. It hurts the community and your credibility with people who actually know how it all works… Put the facts on the table and let people decide for themselves, that’s what being a real veteran is all about...
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True dat, sales must be :rolleyes: this month
 
Retabolil2 said:
Who knows what manufacturing standards for dogs are? And whats the difference between vet products and human grade products? I guess there must be some big difference!
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i dont think there is any doubt in anyones mind about HG gear being the cleanest. the only thing that has people saying "im going UG" is cause of cost and availability....just because you can buy 8 million amps of omna for the same cost per ml of UG enanth or cyp doesnt mea its the best way to go... regular people JUST dont have that kind of money
 
If you have a good source, human grade is not much more expensive than vet or underground gear (IP excluded, that shit costs less than bottled water). Yes, Ret might have other intentions than looking out for your health, but his advice is not wrong. The standards that the Mexican government puts on vet grade gear are not going to be close to the standards put on prescription gear. Isn't your health worth a few bucks more?

Regarding fakes, yes they are out there, thats why you need a trusted source that knows his shit and has been in the game for years. Don't tell me underground and vet gear isn't faked too. Say what you will, but these days I only inject human grade.
 
Anthony Starks said:
If you have a good source, human grade is not much more expensive than vet or underground gear (IP excluded, that shit costs less than bottled water). Yes, Ret might have other intentions than looking out for your health, but his advice is not wrong. The standards that the Mexican government puts on vet grade gear are not going to be close to the standards put on prescription gear. Isn't your health worth a few bucks more?

Regarding fakes, yes they are out there, thats why you need a trusted source that knows his shit and has been in the game for years. Don't tell me underground and vet gear isn't faked too. Say what you will, but these days I only inject human grade.
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good u keep injecting human grade

no one is disagreeing with ret on that fact that HG is cleaner.....domestic sources are pretty expensive for HG...international isnt...but u have to worry about seizers and shit.....

we all take risks in this game...its all a matter of preference....EVERYONE that has been around for a day or two, has the facts straight on this subject
 
bicepts101 said:
good u keep injecting human grade

no one is disagreeing with ret on that fact that HG is cleaner.....domestic sources are pretty expensive for HG...international isnt...but u have to worry about seizers and shit.....

we all take risks in this game...its all a matter of preference....EVERYONE that has been around for a day or two, has the facts straight on this subject
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If you have a good source and a clean addy, why would you ever go domestic? It seems like they are always getting busted (with your info on their computers probably), and I have never had a seizure in my life.
 
Anthony Starks said:
If you have a good source and a clean addy, why would you ever go domestic? It seems like they are always getting busted (with your info on their computers probably), and I have never had a seizure in my life.
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i know tons of sources and if i dont have a source i can get it...for me there is no option to go int. i cant risk a seizer...read my location.....but still i like domestic..i feel no worries with it
 
BTW- I do not agree that HG is cleaner than Vet grade stuff like QV,DK or AP... I just don't buy the whole "clean" bullshit.

First off I want one of you guys to tell me what "clean" means... What the fuck are we looking for in gear that would make it "less clean" or even "cleaner".


People like to parrot shit they heard or read and do not know what the fuck they are really talking about.

Unless you can really explain what one should test for, when deciding if a certain Steroid is "Clean" or not, then don't post that shit here.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
BTW- I do not agree that HG is cleaner than Vet grade stuff like QV,DK or AP... I just don't buy the whole "clean" bullshit.

First off I want one of you guys to tell me what "clean" means... What the fuck are we looking for in gear that would make it "less clean" or even "cleaner".


People like to parrot shit they heard or read and do not know what the fuck they are really talking about.

Unless you can really explain what one should test for, when deciding if a certain Steroid is "Clean" or not, then don't post that shit here.
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the standards they work by...the sterility of the lab...vet steroids are supposed to made for animals not humans....its like dog food...you can eat it, it will still fill u up, and it wont kill you but its not made for humans and it tastes like shit...human standards are higher than animal standards..i think we can all agree on that...
 
bicepts101 said:
the standards they work by...the sterility of the lab...vet steroids are supposed to made for animals not humans....its like dog food...you can eat it, it will still fill u up, and it wont kill you but its not made for humans and it tastes like shit...human standards are higher than animal standards..i think we can all agree on that...
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Ok, lets play ball... you say "the standards they work by...the sterility of the lab."

So, What if QV and AP decided to contract the manufacturing of their steroids to the same Lab that compounds products for companies like "Eli lilly" and "GD Searle"...
Could you then assume that QV or AP are putting out human grade products labeled as being for animal use just to work around mexican laws and pay less in license fees?
 
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Big Rick Rock said:
Ok, lets play ball... you say "the standards they work by...the sterility of the lab."

So, What if QV and AP decided to contract the manufacturing of their steroids to the same Lab that compounds products for companies like "Eli lilly" and "GD Searle"...
Could you then assume that QV or AP are putting out human grade products labeled as being for animal use just to work around mexican laws and pay less in license fees?
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absolutly bro...to me thats a good thing...maybe that is what is going on with some "vet" labs....but in theory a HG lab has higher standards...thats the only point i have
 
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