What about NPP? I am planning on giving it a shot with some test for maybe next time.
Tren blows everything out of the water IMO. Never ran DECA, but NPP didn't impress me. A lot of water weight and not much strength. Tren gave me awesome strength and I kept every pound I put on with it. Sides were mild for me as well, but most aren't that lucky
well the original question was deca vs. tren.
NPP and 'deca' are the same thing.. only difference is the ester..
i won't run deca unless I was staying on again because its such a stubborn ester that lingers a while.
+1...I wouldn't touch deca (or NPP) with a ten foot pole. Aside from mild insomnia & acid reflux I never really had the nightmare sides you hear about with tren (ace)
I know but your initial complaint with it was
So was wondring if you take the long ester out of the mix if you would like it any better.
Didn't mean to hijack the thread but am considering npp + test for a second cycle so this thread kind of caught my eye.
I'll probably get lambasted over this but am also considering running either npp or tren. Have to be honest, tren intrigues me - and I have a bunch of both ...
Would tren enat gains be more keepable?
don't expect to keep your strength thats for sure
tren sends your strength through the roof, its go nowhere to go but down
Would tren enat gains be more keepable?
That is not necessarily true.
In fact, the only stuff that I felt a slight decrease in initial strength after stopping was Anadrol. After PCT I had kept every bit of strength I gained on every single cycle I ever did.
If you are sitting and eating correctly and you do a proper PCT or go back to HRT doses, there's no reason to lose strength.
Of course, the larger and more advanced in muscle development you become, I think your statement is more accurate. For guys who do tren the first time, they get to a whole other level and if they are dieting and training and resting properly there is no reason they should decline in strength or lean mass gained at all.
Why wouldnt you use them?
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