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Difference between Deca and Tren in results and sides?

deca sides are much lower than tren. i know this sounds weird but its true... just make sure you control the progesterone on deca and the sides are almost nil and you will feel great on it. however recovery is a bitch on deca because of the long ester.

i won't run deca unless I was staying on again because its such a stubborn ester that lingers a while.

gains are actually better on deca because you keep more of them. tren you will become a beast on it but they are fast gains and you will not be pleased when you come off and watch your lifts tank.

tren nutrition partitions far more than any other AAS and sucks up everything out of your body sending your blood sugar down. thats why you will feel blah on tren but on deca you will feel amazing. but deca isn't for everyone.. i would be much more comfortable recommending tren for those that cycle on and off. much easier to recover from.. deca you need to give yourself 6 months or more to recover
 
What about NPP? I am planning on giving it a shot with some test for maybe next time.

Thats my next cycle, Test and NPP.

I've done 2 cycles, test/deca and test/EQ. The test/deca was superior in mass gains. Hopefully with npp i can avoid some of the moon face
 
Tren blows everything out of the water IMO. Never ran DECA, but NPP didn't impress me. A lot of water weight and not much strength. Tren gave me awesome strength and I kept every pound I put on with it. Sides were mild for me as well, but most aren't that lucky
 
Tren blows everything out of the water IMO. Never ran DECA, but NPP didn't impress me. A lot of water weight and not much strength. Tren gave me awesome strength and I kept every pound I put on with it. Sides were mild for me as well, but most aren't that lucky

+1...I wouldn't touch deca (or NPP) with a ten foot pole. Aside from mild insomnia & acid reflux I never really had the nightmare sides you hear about with tren (ace)
 
well the original question was deca vs. tren.
NPP and 'deca' are the same thing.. only difference is the ester..

I know but your initial complaint with it was

i won't run deca unless I was staying on again because its such a stubborn ester that lingers a while.

So was wondring if you take the long ester out of the mix if you would like it any better.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread but am considering npp + test for a second cycle so this thread kind of caught my eye.

I'll probably get lambasted over this but am also considering running either npp or tren. Have to be honest, tren intrigues me - and I have a bunch of both ...
 
I know but your initial complaint with it was



So was wondring if you take the long ester out of the mix if you would like it any better.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread but am considering npp + test for a second cycle so this thread kind of caught my eye.

I'll probably get lambasted over this but am also considering running either npp or tren. Have to be honest, tren intrigues me - and I have a bunch of both ...

i would give NPP a shot man. i am a believer in experimenting.. just make sure you are covered ancillary wise
 
don't expect to keep your strength thats for sure

tren sends your strength through the roof, its go nowhere to go but down



That is not necessarily true.

In fact, the only stuff that I felt a slight decrease in initial strength after stopping was Anadrol. After PCT I had kept every bit of strength I gained on every single cycle I ever did.

If you are sitting and eating correctly and you do a proper PCT or go back to HRT doses, there's no reason to lose strength.

Of course, the larger and more advanced in muscle development you become, I think your statement is more accurate. For guys who do tren the first time, they get to a whole other level and if they are dieting and training and resting properly there is no reason they should decline in strength or lean mass gained at all.
 
That is not necessarily true.

In fact, the only stuff that I felt a slight decrease in initial strength after stopping was Anadrol. After PCT I had kept every bit of strength I gained on every single cycle I ever did.

If you are sitting and eating correctly and you do a proper PCT or go back to HRT doses, there's no reason to lose strength.

Of course, the larger and more advanced in muscle development you become, I think your statement is more accurate. For guys who do tren the first time, they get to a whole other level and if they are dieting and training and resting properly there is no reason they should decline in strength or lean mass gained at all.


I kept all strength and mass after Tren too. I kept waiting for the crash in strength but it never happened. It was also the first time I went into cruise instead of PCT so that may have something to do with it, but at 200mg per week test everything stayed the same. Only thing I lost was hardness and a bit of vascularity by going back to a cruise dose
 
Same here, did tren for the first time and kept breaking prs. Been 2 months since pct is over and still breaking prs, just not as quick, no loss in strength though.

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