Differant Gear create Differant builds?

[JAYMAN014]

Would you guys agree that differant types of gear cause differant builds, I have a guy who I know well in the gym and he takes Test & Dbol only and other who likes Androl. These guys taking the heavy gear only and never taking things like Anavar,winny,EQ are simply mass monsters, I know this is a good thing but they are well out of proportion and I don't think they could ever create semetrickle body, They are all traps and back. Kinda goofly looking really.

 

[theoak01]

no I think its how they train and eat along with genetics that determine symmetry

 

[landser]

Theoak has it right, diet counts more, and genetics, than drugs.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

obviously someone running a high dose of test vs someone running var or winny will experience much more mass gains..it also comes down to training as well and yes diet..it is difficult to tackle all goals at once..for me im just gonna worry about packing on thick muscle than ill worry about getting sliced and symmetry..trying to cover it all in one cycle wont work..small steps are key

 

[landser]

obviously someone running a high dose of test vs someone running var or winny will experience much more mass gains..it also comes down to training as well and yes diet..it is difficult to tackle all goals at once..for me im just gonna worry about packing on thick muscle than ill worry about getting sliced and symmetry..trying to cover it all in one cycle wont work..small steps are key

Agreed...and BTW, is that you in the avatar?

 

[JAYMAN014]

Yeah but what I ment was these guys train basically like I do, I see them hitting all body parts and working hard on each, Allthough I don't think symmetry is even possible with the mass in the center body they are packing on. Shoulders & Back.
It may be just their receptors are eating up the juice in those area's which is common I guess.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

Yeah but what I ment was these guys train basically like I do, I see them hitting all body parts and working hard on each, Allthough I don't think symmetry is even possible with the mass in the center body they are packing on. Shoulders & Back.
It may be just their receptors are eating up the juice in those area's which is common I guess.

no clue what youre trying to say here..whether or not you like ronnie coleman's physique doesnt matter but you has MASS and yet he is very symmetrical..i like jay cutler but he was way off in symmetry at the arnolds and did not look very good imho..granted these are 2 gifted people but you can have mass and symmetry at the same time...

 

[Sir-Que]

I think what he's trying to say there's no method with these guys it seems they just want to pack the mass on, and where it lands is where it lands. I've seen these guys also the "power lifter" types that stay fat year around.

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[wnt2bBeast]

I think what he's trying to say there's no method with these guys it seems they just want to pack the mass on, and where it lands is where it lands. I've seen these guys also the "power lifter" types that stay fat year around.

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the same way you cant target fat reduction is the same way you cant really only pack mass on in cetain areas unless you dont train those areas..there are many powerlifters that would destroy bb'ers take a look at the 220lb class chuck v ken patterson ed coan etc all fairly lean and thick..your referring to the super heavies which are a little on the fatty side..

 

[Sir-Que]

the same way you cant target fat reduction is the same way you cant really only pack mass on in cetain areas unless you dont train those areas..there are many powerlifters that would destroy bb'ers take a look at the 220lb class chuck v ken patterson ed coan etc all fairly lean and thick..your referring to the super heavies which are a little on the fatty side..

Yeah not the Pro Power lifters, the guys that consider themselves this cause they can't or just refuse to drop the weight. I see these guys all the time. All traps decent (not cut) arms, the legs aren't small, but compared to the body you could argue. And they're like this year end and year out, I know guys at my gym (some juice some don't) who have looked the same for the past two years.

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[JAYMAN014]

Yeah I guess your right I just felt that taking the time to do light cycles between heavy cycles allows your body to grow more symmetrical then just hitting the mass gear all the time, I feel that anavar has done wonders for making my symmetry perfect after heavy cycles. Arms being the largest factor they don't seam to pact on size even with the center of my body in a mass cycle.

 

[hammertime30]

no I think its how they train and eat along with genetics that determine symmetry

I agree...To many guys live on the weight bench and never give their legs the same amount of work, hence the guys upper body would be huge and their legs like tooth picks. Makes no sense to me!

 

[alltraps]

i dont care what anyone says, gear doesnt create different builds. you can run test all the time and still be small and lean looking. or you can run var and be big and bulky. all it has to do with is the way you train, eat and more importantly, your genetics. YES the test subject will get bigger faster then the guy running only var, BUT in the long run, there is nothing var cant accomplish that test can, other then sexual funcion.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

i dont care what anyone says, gear doesnt create different builds. you can run test all the time and still be small and lean looking. or you can run var and be big and bulky. all it has to do with is the way you train, eat and more importantly, your genetics. YES the test subject will get bigger faster then the guy running only var, BUT in the long run, there is nothing var cant accomplish that test can, other then sexual funcion.

true..i didnt mean to imply that one cannot build mass with var..i am fan of var but like you said you will not get 20 lbs after 8 weeks of var yet thats possible with test!!training/diet are always key..there are people on here who take almost 1 g of test yet you cant ever tell they workout!!! seems pointless